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1  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online gambling becomes popular on: June 21, 2021, 11:54:34 PM
Not just only online gambling is popular right now, even online selling and other kinds of stuff online are trending now because of pandemic and I think this is also the right time for cryptocurrency to make the name loud this time because cryptocurrency is an online use that people can afford to use especially to those who don't want to go outside their house, and want to make money online. As you have noticed before, bitcoin value pump during the pandemic and that is because people now are more in their house than outside their house. For sure a lot of people now are accepting cryptocurrency in their lives now than before.
You are right but if people gamble their cryptos they can lose them in addition to the value BTC and altcoins have lost during the past weeks. When BTC is worth half the price they've paid for it, they gamble twice more of their cryptos to get the same winnings in fiat currencies. So I'm not sure it's a good publicity for cryptos to get testimonies from newbies saying they have lost their money by investing in cryptos because they've badly gambled them and because the price has crashed. Only experimented users should invest in cryptos when prices are falling and when the volatility is high IMO.
2  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Auto Deduct System on: June 21, 2021, 11:52:24 PM
What do you think of an AutoDeduct System of a Gambling Platform? Says you just connect your wallet like for example on a Dice Game, then it will just roll itself everytime it sees some funds on your wallet whatever coins it was until you are left with Zero ( Funds withdrawn or Funds gets Zero?)

I just have think of this as LOTTO ( site : lotto.finance) is implementing this, and one way to get out of that is to either wrapped the tokens or bridge it on another chain, do you think its reasonable not to have a stop button to exclude your address once you don't want it anymore?
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I just now heard this auto deduct system, if this really happens by a most gambling site, I will suggest to avoid them earlier.
yeah definitely a bad Idea, as they might get an idea to configure this to deduct other coins from the wallet that has been connected.
Though I didn't think of it at firzt but there are seems to be some flaws here, though the idea itslef is considerably good.
What do you mean exactly by "connecting a wallet"? How could you connect a wallet? If you mean giving your private key to a platform I would never do that, even with a reputed platform I think. Because when someone knows your private key he can do whatever he wants with your wallet, he can use it to spend dirty money and sign messages from it. Moreover if someone sends funds to the wallet in the future thinking it's still your own wallet you will lose the funds.
3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [CONMEBOL] Copa America 2021 Discussion Thread on: June 21, 2021, 11:34:14 PM
Two surprise results again in Copa, Peru beat their fancied opponents while Venezuela came from behind to earn a draw. Good thing haven't been betting on them just so much more unpredictable these SAmerican teams especially when can't watch them not even sure how they're playing, how to be betting:)

@ Rabi3 and KTChampions yes, I agree predictable results actually happen in group stages in EURO but this isn't always the case, varies from season to season.
Yeah apart from the difficulty of watching the whole game and taking a look on highlights, the randomness of the play style of some teams and the inconsistency of others made Copa America very different than EURO as mentioned by the boys!
I felt that Venezuela and Ecuador will end with disappointment, which was the case, maybe the worst scenario I would call Undecided
Peru winning vs Colombia, dunno what should I say. I remember odds for Peru were above 6? Incredible!
There is no difficulty for watching them, live streams of all matches of the Copa America are available on Stake. I recommend you to try Stake to place your bets on the Copa America, there are some very interesting promotions : if the team you bet on scores in the first 15 minutes your bet is paid out as a winning bet even if your team loses at the end. Besides that odds were @5.80 precisely... when I placed my bet on Peru last week Cool
4  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting to Risk Free Fights on: June 21, 2021, 11:21:24 PM
No I confirm to you, there is no assurance for a team or a player to win with such odds : @1.5 odds means there are only 66%(maybe 60% with the vigorish) to win.

If there's any assurance it not gambling anymore, even in a slight percentage of losing shit may happened. Even after all the research that you made there's always a chance that your bet will lose.

We as gamblers understand that, we do have our different approach and system that we use each time we sort and pick the team or players that we are riding,

Knowing that even how small the odds if luck will not permit we still going to lose our money.
I agree with you but the real "risk" of a bet or in other words the likeliness of the outcome to happen has nothing to do with the money and the profit you can get from it. If the likeliness of the outcome is actually 90% but the bet is only paid out @1.01, the bet is almost risk free but not profitable at the end.
5  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting to Risk Free Fights on: June 21, 2021, 11:00:52 PM
This is why when i do make out bets i do always consider the probabilities for the opposite team or player to have chance to take the win.

As a basic rule of thumb, that should be a good approach in sports betting. Not just relying on the favorites' strength but also considering the chance of the opponent. For basketball example, the ball is round that even an unexpected thing to happen, really happens!

A good example in NBA, Atlanta Hawks vs Philadephia 76ers series. Before the series started, the majority doesn't really think that the Hawks have a chance at Sixers but look at the series now, they are now going into decisive Game 7 and to be honest, I can't pick who will be the series winner.

That's how important analyzing team at both ends as there is no assurance that a team will win with good odds like for example 1.1 to 1.5.
No I confirm to you, there is no assurance for a team or a player to win with such odds : @1.5 odds means there are only 66% chances (maybe even 60% with the vigorish) to win for the player or the team chosen. An (almost) risk free bet with no bonuses couldn't be above @1.01 if bookmakers have correctly assessed it.
6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Vegas Casinos to allow Cannabis Lounges. on: June 21, 2021, 10:42:38 PM
Nothing wrong with it. The only problem could be gambling while being high, we could lose a lot of money.
And that might be the reason why they've allowed. For the reason to make people lose themselves and get out of their control so that they can make more money from those people that are enjoying doing such but not noticing that they're in a serious situation. And in the end, it's too late for them to notice that they're losing more money although in their mindset, they've enjoyed a bit.
I don't think cannabis is a drug enhancing risky habits in general and risky gambling habits in particular. So I'm not sure it will help casino houses to take more money from those players. In fact I think it will certainly help some gamblers to stop playing actually.
7  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Mafias Most Wanted Fight Fixer on: June 21, 2021, 10:25:09 PM
all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

should this be a big win if we pick DRAW for the exhibition fights? sadly we can't see listing of them in crypto sport
You really think Floyd Mayweather needs dirty money from mafia?  Huh This guy doesn't need to take risks of ruining his reputation for some dollars, he certainly doesn't even need the money of the fight against Logan Paul. He did it just for the fun. Mayweather doesn't live in a third world country like Pacquiao so there is no need for him to deal with mafia to be able to practice his sport and to earn money.

And BTW, no his fight against Logan Paul didn't end in a draw, if there were judges, Mayweather would have won by unanimous decision.
8  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: June 21, 2021, 10:00:25 PM
It's 2 days left to bet on BITCOIN PRICE - JUNE. The favorite range of the freebitco.in bettors is "$35,001 - $40,000" so far, but will it stay like that in the end?

It's very tempting to place a bet on $30,001 - $35,000 because it looks like we'll be there by the end of the month, and also the odds, 4.00, are pretty nice:



What about you, guys, have you placed any bets so far? I think I'll wait one more day, because the Time Weight Multiplier isn't that high currently anyway.
Yes I already placed a dutch bet of 3 mBTC on the range 25-40k(25-30k/30-35k/35-40k). I'm pretty confident BTC won't rise above 40k but I hope the bad news from China and the chinese whales won't push the price under 25k for the end of the month. BTC is under 32k currently.
9  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: [BTC] Le bitcoin devrait remonter.... ou peut être redescendre on: June 21, 2021, 07:35:51 PM
Toujours 354K et ça parle de + de 100 000 avant la fin de l'année...

sacré crash ! Cheesy
LOL le pire c'est que je ne me rappelle même plus ce que je voulais dire  Cheesy 35,4K? 35/34K  35K ou 34K avec un fat finger sur la touche d'à côté? Maintenant qu'il est à 32K la question ne se pose plus de toutes façons...  Tongue
10  Local / Altcoins (Français) / Re: [RIPPLE - XRP] News et infos on: June 20, 2021, 11:58:17 PM
Techniquement c'est difficile de faire mieux là, mais si le support casse ça va faire mal.

J'espère de tout cœur que ça va casser.
support a combien exactement?



36813,46 $, exactement.
Si c'est une manière indirecte de faire remarquer que BTC a beaucoup plus de valeur que le ripple qui ne vaut que quelques cents, ça prend de moins en moins auprès de la plèbe qui commence à comprendre de mieux en mieux les concepts de market cap et de supply(circulating, max, total,...)
11  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: [BTC] Le bitcoin devrait remonter.... ou peut être redescendre on: June 20, 2021, 11:50:22 PM
Toujours 35/34K et ça parle de + de 100 000 avant la fin de l'année...

Selon Plan B, son "worst case"(pire) scenario est un BTC à seulement 100k d'ici le mois novembre 2021...  Roll Eyes et même 135K d'ici la fin de l'année.
Un +100K en 6 mois en somme. Un petit x4 tranquilou sur un semestre quoi
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-price-can-hit-450k-in-2021-135k-is-worst-case-scenario-planb
12  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Casino & Sports - UFC Official Betting Partner - Play Smarter 🥊 on: June 17, 2021, 11:58:37 PM
There is again some interesting promotion to celebrate Israel Adesanya's win at UFC263, so by placing a bet on Marlon Vera to win against Davey Grant this weekend at UFC Fight Night!
He is younger fighter with small reach advantage and bookies favorite to win this fight, but I don't think it will be so easy as offs suggest.
It's going to be random draw and note that there is minimum $5 bet for this promotion, and you can win much more and share $10,000 in Dogecoin with 20 people:
https://promotions.stake.com/10k-dogecoin-drop/
On top of that you can also take advantage of the double winnings promo if you bump up your bet to $10.

Hopefully they do more of these sportsbook lottery promos since I enjoy participating in lotteries and I remember the last time they had a similar promo was during the IPL where you have to place a casino and sports bet at the same time.
I didn't see this promotion, thank you to have highlighted it, well it means there will be 3 matchs offering a double winning bonus tomorrow:
Chan Sung Jung vs Dan Ige
Aleksei Oleinik vs Sergey Spivak
in case your pick wins by KO
https://promotions.stake.com/ufc-main-event-2x-winnings/
and Marlon Vera vs Davey Grant
if Marlon Vera wins his fight by decision or by KO (or by DQ)
https://promotions.stake.com/marlon-vera-winnings/
13  Local / Actualité et News / Re: Bitcoin wallet Ledger’s database hacked + Campagne de phishing en cours on: June 17, 2021, 09:01:16 PM
J'aurais plutôt pensé qu'ils enverraient un soi-disant tout nouveau modèle plutôt qu'un clone d'un modèle existant.
Méfie-toi quand même si un jour tu reçois en "avant-première" leur nouveau modèle "hypersécurisé"...  Tongue

D'après Ledger, Ledger Live vérifie une clef secrète gravée dans une puce "sécurisée" pour bloquer les contrefaçons.
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Check authenticity with Ledger applications
Connect your Ledger device to Ledger Live to verify its authenticity.
Genuine Ledger devices hold a secret key that is set during manufacture.
Only a genuine Ledger device can use its key to provide the cryptographic proof required to connect with Ledger’s secure server.
Points à contrôler pour vérifier l'authenticité d'un Nano S :
https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002481534-Check-if-device-is-genuine
https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005321449

Points à contrôler pour vérifier l'authenticité d'un Nano X :
https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019010473-Check-if-device-is-genuine
https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019352834
14  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: [BTC] Le bitcoin devrait remonter.... ou peut être redescendre on: June 17, 2021, 10:37:49 AM
Le projet des "1 milliard de $" d'investissement dans BTC de MicroStrategy n'a pas l'air de beaucoup ébranler le marché
Peter Schiff a d'ailleurs pris a partie le CEO de MicroStrategy Saylor, on lui disant qu'avec ce qu'il avait déjà investi dans Bitcoin il avait largement de quoi rendre ses actionnaires riches si BTC est si prometteur que ça. Que son annonce est donc juste une tentative désespérée de sauver le cours qui est actuellement en chute libre.
15  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: June 17, 2021, 08:13:02 AM
I do not think that you would have a problem when old players stop playing because I am 100% sure that there will be options available to continue with the old one, that is what thequin said, so that is not a problem. All of this is a mute point right now because thequin said that they are "considering" a new design, which is direly needed if you ask me, this looks like something a person slapped together 10 years ago and it is nearly exactly that, not 10 years but getting there, a brand new design with much better UI will definitely be better.

This is why I believe we are going to see a new design, and the old one will stay there as well, people will move to new one if they want to but if they do not want to they will stay at the old one and everyone will be happy that way, you are keeping the old customers happy and you are making new design wanters happy at the same time.

Well if it is that way then I think there will be no problem, what happens is that there are people who tend to like the traditional, although they leave the option of the new version and the new one will be something pleasant, I think the changes are good, and if there is an update it can generate more emotions.

The changes in freebitco.in are very nice, I remember when there was only the roll and the multiplier, then they incorporated sports bets, I think that any update will always be good.

I don't understand why you're replying to this old post 5 pages later?
TheQuin has already replied to that 10 days ago and he just said "It is in our minds". So I don't think at all it's the current priority of the team, they're obviously mainly focused on the FUN roadmap and about to make a big announcement "going to be MASSIVE" according to freebitco.in PR. What will be this announcement is the current hot topic.


There is a good amount of changes with the website for the past 1 or even 2 years, we have seen many new things added and all, but I haven't heard about any design changes at all, is that ever in your minds? I mean don't get me wrong I am not saying the UI sucks, but to be frank with the reality we are talking about probably the best website in the crypto world, one of the most watched ones, if you list all the crypto related websites in the entire world this website probably would be in the top 10, for something that is this big I would assume that there should be a better look than what it was started with, I mean this is definitely not horrible but not top 10 worthy design neither.

If you guys could hire a better designer and get a new one made I am sure it would be much better, and it would give you guys a lot more love from users as well.

It is in our minds. If you make radical changes like that you always end up getting as many complaints from people who liked it the way it was as you do compliments from people who like the new one. One idea we had recently was to make a new version that was optional to change to. We might do that eventually.
16  Local / Actualité et News / Re: Elon Musk : Héros ou Judas ? on: June 16, 2021, 11:59:43 PM
Oui le cour de la monnaie, c'est à dire sa valeur intrinsèque in fine. Une monnaie avec un cours qui monte elle te permet d'acheter deux sacs de farine avec le même billet qui t'avait permis d'acheter un seul sac 2ans auparavant. A moins de regarder son cours contre une monnaie qui se casse la figure, si le cours de la monnaie grimpe contre une monnaie stable, sa valeur grimpe forcément, surtout dans un système mondialisé où tout peut s'importer.
Un exemple concret : le bolivar venezuelien. Il y a un indice qui trace le prix d'un café en bolivars, sachant que le cours de cette monnaie est en chute libre. Et bien le même café que tu payais 250 000 bolivars il y a un an, tu le payes 6 milllions de bolivars aujourd'hui...
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-venezuela-cafe-con-leche-index/
17  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: Fermeture de T411 on: June 16, 2021, 11:51:32 PM
Pour du DDL de matchs de boxe, catch, MMA et bien sûr UFC, un super forum(anglophone) :
http://fight-bb.com/
C'est gratuit mais les uploadeurs acceptent volontiers les donations en BTC
Un bon plan pour les amateurs d'UFC : Stake va retransmettre en live les UFC gratuitement à partir de ce soir.(c'est le seul sportsbook à proposer ça)
Et y'a 0 conditions, pas de deposit ou de pari à placer et 0 KYC pour ouvrir un compte.

Ils font énormément de pub pour UFC d'ailleurs et se lancent pas mal dans le sponsoring. Ca va finir par devenir mainstream comme plateforme Shocked
c'est peut-être ce qu'ils cherchent avec leurs pubs, leurs sponsorings et compagnie mais tant qu'ils n'accepteront pas directement les fiats, ils auront beaucoup de mal à faire mieux que sportsbet.io je pense.



Toi attends, je vais de suite toucher ça à Caro. qui sait si elle t'obtiendra un machin genre badge Représentant VIP de chez les responsables du site Roll Eyes  Grin Grin
T'inquiète je suis déjà ranké VIP, et c'est pas grâce à elle, uniquement aux quelques milliers de dollars que j'ai joué chez eux Tongue
18  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [CONMEBOL] Copa America 2021 Discussion Thread on: June 16, 2021, 11:43:01 AM
You should give a little bit more respect to the chilean team IMO. They are 19th of the FIFA ranking and 5th of the CONMEBOL zone. Argentina didn't lose against them, they've just drawn against Chile and while  playing away from home in Brazil they've been able to score one goal. This is not a bad result at all, in soccer everything is possible in one single match, the best team can lose against the worst team. Their overall ball possession during the match was 49% against 51% for Chile so a draw is not undeserved at the end.

I guess some people are not yet ready to accept the fact that Argentina is not one of the top teams in world football right now. And Chile has been a strong side for many decades now. Any team that qualifies to world cup from the toughest confederation (CONMEBOL) is assured to be a strong side. Forget about Chile, even teams such as Bolivia and Venezuela are capable of big upsets. The lower tier teams of CONMEBOL can't be compared with the lower tier teams in AFC or CONCACAF. The quality is much higher.
I totally agree with you, I really think almost all south american teams from the CONMEBOL confederation are able to upset the best teams in the world on a single leg match.
Moreover at the last Copa America, Peru has finished at the second place and Chile at the fourth one.

That's why I place almost all my bets on underdogs during this Copa America, on top of that there is a promotion on Stake (paid out as winning bet if your selection scores in the first 15 minutes) so I pray for an early goal to back up my bet even if the match ends in a losing 3-1 lol Grin
19  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Programmer for hire for simple python/bash scripting jobs on: June 16, 2021, 11:11:15 AM
He became now one of the richest person in the world that happened through cryptocurrencies. And not just a cryptocurrency but through his creation of Ethereum and is one of the most successful crypto that we ever had in the market.

Well, he went far from his skill and we're now part of this historical thread.  Tongue

Hopefully he will have his spare time to login to his account and have even a single reply on this thread.
Well I think he has already received one job offer by PM at least because someone sent him 5 BTC to his BTC adress one week later (the 24th april) as you can see on this blockchain explorer :
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1PnqE59974vkazJFuxWABt5TiTQWjEsYyK


You decide on a fee between 0.25 and 5 BTC depending on how substantial the task is, and if it's reasonable and I know how to I'll do it. If you have any specific language requirements, let me know. Send bitcoins to 1PnqE59974vkazJFuxWABt5TiTQWjEsYyK .
20  Local / Actualité et News / Re: Elon Musk : Héros ou Judas ? on: June 16, 2021, 10:44:21 AM
Cela n'aurait pas pu se produire si bitcoin avait suivi sa voie/vocation initiale, s'il n'était pas entre les mains d'un tas de manipulateurs, avides. s'il ne comblait que son rôle initiale (celui de monnaie), celà apporterait une très forte stabilité au cour, il pourrait(le cour) même ne faire que grimper, fluidement, sans presque jamais redescendre.
Ah bon une monnaie qui ne cesse de grimper c'est une monnaie stable? C'est la première fois que j'entends ça. ça s'appelle une économie en déflation, et personne ne se sert d'une telle monnaie : pourquoi dépenser un coin qui vaudra 2 fois plus demain? Pourquoi acheter un produit aujourd'hui qui vaudra moins cher demain? C'est d'ailleurs pour ça que les banques centrales considèrent que l'état optimum d'une économie est d'être en légère inflation, pour inciter la masse à dépenser et à faire tourner la machine économique comme on dit.
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