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1261  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Tentang Etherdelta on: September 30, 2017, 01:14:25 PM
Masih bingung walaupun baca pos sebelumnya  Grin
Pertanyaan saya ada 2 address etherdeltanya sendiri dan untuk trading, untuk lihat address tradingnya dimana ? Untuk menu deposit,wallet,transfer untuk trading posisi token ada dimana (deposit/transfer). Coba sell posisi token ada diposisi transfer cek ke order gak masuk tapi gas berkurang 0.001 tolong penjelasannya ?

bagian kiri atas ada menu deposit dan withdraw, disitu cara depo ke akun order dari wallet etherdeltanya
cara gampangnya sama kaya depo rupiah ke vip, akun kita tetap rupiah dan kalau mau order mesti depo/buy btc dulu, masih bingung ?
kalau action buy dan sell tidak masuk tandanya sudah diambil duluan sama orang lain, tapi kalau pasang order sendiri tidak ngaruh apa2

soal action buy/sell yang gagal gas tetep berkurang, itu sama kaya fee untuk nge-bid, semua market desentralisasi punya sistem yang sama.

ini etherdelta kalo transaksi disitu pendingnya lama bner, gak tau itu gas nya dikasi brp sampe 1 jam lebih masih pending.

kirim dari sesama exchanger memang lama, sama seperti ngirim token dari ccex ke vip. kurang dari sejam atau bahkan 25-30 menitan
tapi jika kirim dari mew cuma semenit, disitu bedanya gan.
1262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Should I convert my bitcoin to Ethereum? on: September 29, 2017, 09:56:33 AM
Ethereum is going to take a big leap when they get all of their updates sorted out. I think ETh is going to be a bigger gain then BTC.

Buying ICO via bitcoin and $ start switching to ethereum payments, this is a sign that they will be very popular to use because many projects choose to switch to eth-based markets such as etherdelta, volume levels that prove eth has a bright future. I'm not saying they will outperform bitcoin but you have to start conversion gradually from now on.
1263  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Where to place token after ICO on: September 29, 2017, 09:47:34 AM
The most common is to send ico tokens back to the sender's wallet address. The waves, mew, or orderbooks are the best known means today. token delivery is usually done immediately after sending eth, get used to keep monitoring updates during ICO to receive correct instructions and not directed to phishing links.
1264  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is ICO regulation good or bad? on: September 29, 2017, 09:42:00 AM
I think ICO regulation is good! Too many ICO scam!

That's not the reason ICO should regulate, But the uncontrollable market cap of cryptocurrency are inflating. The government is worried about this because it's really affecting the economy of an estate because people can invest freely without a tax. ICO regulation is good but the FUD around is very bad and dragging crypto price down.

The problem is that no one can set ICO in online business because they do not have an official office in their country, the Government can not manage the business that comes from other countries let alone can not arrange anything that happens in internet business. I do not think this is effective and the only solution is the establishment of an escrow made by the government legally.
1265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Investment Advise to Newbie's on: September 29, 2017, 09:33:21 AM
Always make your own research.
Even if you heard something from the very famous and reliable trader. Do not rush, think carefully!

They also need to take the attitude of others because it is still a beginner, the research itself does not apply if they do not understand the basics. They will understand after the first investment and that is when the experience time will begin, we must be wise to advise because the advice is also determined not from himself.
1266  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Who earns from a coin dump? on: September 29, 2017, 09:28:56 AM
Just to understand, I do not see the possibility of short selling on exchanges...

It is possible but it will be with a loss all the time.  Grin That is not a move of someone who has the experience and knowledge in trading. People or traders that always let emotions play a role in what they do as well as those with weak hands will end up with losses. A coin dump is not something to which we react with panic, it is something that we consider a good time, to buy, an opportunity.

traders should monitor the chart for 24 hours to make a profit, because the actual fluctuations are still moving at a small rise rate and that's where the real profit is, unlike the shitcoin because its value will not disappear, the red color is the most appropriate Time to buy, don't get used to buying at the price correction as the market continues to move quickly.
1267  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: About Bitcoin Cash? on: September 29, 2017, 09:21:01 AM
We can see same thing with Etherium and Etherium Classic.
So what is now with Etherium Classic? It is still working and some services start accepting it.

BCH is very different from ETC because there are no developers and just focus on exchange tools, I think they will continue to grow because it has a big holder. But they will slightly shift if bitcoin again releases bitcoinGold after the next hardforking process, interesting to be monitored because everything runs unstable.
1268  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Efektifkah konsep taxi/truk derek secara global termasuk Indonesia ? on: September 26, 2017, 07:00:42 AM
ada perkembangan ? apa ini cuma survey atau sudah ada tindakan pengembangan yang nyata
indonesia efektif saja karena paguyubannya tidak bersifat nasional dan menentukan tarif sendiri-sendiri
jika dinaungi oleh wadah yang terpercaya maka orang akan menuju ke hanya satu nama perusahaan.
1269  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Apa yang mempengaruhi naik / turunnya harga coin? on: September 26, 2017, 06:57:13 AM
Mengenai naik atau turunya harga coin apa mungkin disebabkan karena naik turunya harga bitcoin ya gand,bisa jadi semakin banyak orang menjualya kemungkinan coin itu akan mengalami penurunan,dan sebalikya semakin banyak orang yang membelinya coin itu cenderung akan mengalami kenaikan,itu cuman pengalaman sedikit saya selagi saya treding,dan selebihya biar agand agand yang udah banyak pengalamanya yang akan jelasinya.

ini saya agak bingung, jika fluktuasi ditentukan oleh permintaan dan penawaran maka logika saya jika permintaan banyak(buy)maka harga semakin rendah, tapi faktanya jika banyak orang ngejual malah justru memerahkan harga koin tersebut, saya belum menemukan paten yang pas dalam pembacaan grafik, kalau ada yang bisa bantu terangkan terima kasih.
1270  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Dapat Tawaran Banyak Bounty DI PM! on: September 26, 2017, 06:48:36 AM
Jangan seneng dulu ya gan kalau ente di pm sebuah project.
Di teliti dulu deh biar nggak kecewa nantinya.
Kita udah terlanjur ikutan ternyata projectnya abal-abal,nggak enak banget tu rasanya.

awalnya ngerasa spesial dapat pm, tapi ternyata tu dev pm ke semua akun forum
rasanya mereka cuma kalah populer jadinya usaha2 pm sana sini, mending checking manual saja
sekarang pm sudah berkurang, kalau semua projek lancarkan jurus yang sama jelas jadi spam tidak berguna.
1271  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Tentang Etherdelta on: September 26, 2017, 06:45:35 AM
Bro and sis mohon sarannya buat yang udah pernah trading di etherdelta
kira2 aman gak yah kalo kita import key MEW kita ke etherdelta ?
ada yang udah pernah ? apakah aman2 aja ?
mohon sarannya yah bro and sis.

baru aja saya mau coba trading disitu. tapi masih pikir pikir dulu gan. jadi untuk sementara trading nya tetep di sebelumnya
iya saya juga begitu gan
kalo gk aman bagaimana ekay etherdelta

token bounty dominan larinya pasti kesana dan hitbtc. jadi mengapa harus pikir2, mau di hold sampai karatan ?
sebaiknya buat akun dulu dan pelajari sistemnya, kami2 pasti bantu disini. kalau dibilang scam, balance kita masih bisa ditarik karena balance dalam jangkauan smart contract, coba dilihat chat box yang disediakan, banyak yang tanya2 atau chat tentang problem semuanya di jawab dan saling bantu.
1272  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: MUNGKINKAN ETH AKAN BERSAING BTC ??? KITA NANTIKAN !!!! on: September 26, 2017, 06:40:45 AM
  Menurut agan agan sekalian nih , ETH Pantas ngk bersaing sama BTC Huh

kalau menurut saya sih ethereum sagat pantas untuk bersaing dengan btc Smiley
tapi masih membutuhkan waktu yang lama Smiley

ethereoum kokok di peringkat 2 volume coinmarketcap, itu sudah cukup bukti jika suatu saat bitcoin rusak, maka mata uang kripto sudah punya suksesor yang sepadan, yang saya senang adalah ethereum selalu berinovasi dan vitalik buterin selalu aktif dan pasang badan dalam setiap pertemuan startup dan mendukung banyak altcoin yang berafiliasi dengan token erc-20.
1273  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Investing in ICO, still promising? on: September 25, 2017, 09:05:44 AM
From the investor's point of view, the profit from ico purchase is the main one. There are some projects that just want their sales to work and eventually move very slowly in every project update after the coins appear in the market trading, this is a big problem, not all investors have a "dump" mental, if the coins they buy have a prospect then they will keep it.
1274  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WAVES PLATFORM VS ETH PLATFORM on: September 25, 2017, 08:59:02 AM
The eth platform can be superior because we can withdraw all the coins we have if there is a problematic ethhereum-based market like those in btc-e, whatever the controversy, eth platforms are able to run maximally with high levels of trust. Waves have not been able to outrank them until now , many advantages that can not be accommodated by the waves.
1275  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Which coin now you think had a good future on: September 25, 2017, 08:54:03 AM
I am disappointed with the coins involved in real estate projects, most of my money is spent to engage in their ico but it does not produce anything and the movement is very slow. Currently I am only interested in general security, finance, loan or ticketing concepts such as avt or ppt.
1276  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: All altcoins dumping at the moment. on: September 25, 2017, 08:48:08 AM
Ah, all the noobs using the word "dump" indiscriminately.  Please stop it.  I've said this over and over:  "pump & dump" refers to a scam.  That's it's only legitimate use.  When prices fall, they fall, and when they go up they go up.  Something doesn't "pump".  Every time I read that, it's the most moronic thing ever.

I have one sharp eye on the altcoin market, and it looks like stuff is rebounding a little.  Go to Yobit to gamble away on the altcoins.  This OP is a few days old, so shit that was blasting upward is probably getting slaughtered now.  It's all a game for fools to lose their money on.  That's the only logical way of looking at it.  You ever going to spend these shitcoins on something tangible?  Hell no you're not.  They're worthless pieces of p&d schemes.

Good point. People keep saying pump and dump. Pump to the moon. And everything dump. Also, everything red or green is something I hate to see.

But one thing here. I thought dumping originated from stock exchange vocabulary, no? I hear even on TV like Bloomberg news, people talk about dumping shares to take profits for the weekend.

All beginners know and use this term every day, I think it's natural, because dump is one good strategy to buy back the potential of altcoin, let them express the idea and we just need to enjoy the fundamental graphics and get what we want from the market movement, all beginners in the trade must have experienced the process, they are right in this case.
1277  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What would you do with 10 eth on: September 25, 2017, 08:42:06 AM
One of the golden rules of investment which would definitely apply to an investment of 10 ETH... is diversify. Hold that majority, and look at diversifying out a small percentage of that into other activities. Loan out a bit of it on Polo or Bittrex. Use some of it to do margin trading on ETH pairs if you like to do a spot of trading. Perhaps even half an ETH (5%) to be invested in an ETH-accepting ICO that you like.

Every day I buy ethereum on a regular basis, I am sure it will enlarge every year from the widening of business assets, now ethereum is able to become a pioneer in ICO sales, this is not apart from the concept of smart contract they offer, 10 eth capable of being a gas medium transaction and participation in ico.
1278  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [WAVES] Speculation thread on: September 25, 2017, 08:38:37 AM
Looks very promising. Since WAVES kept its Price at the same amount for quite some time now i was wondering when it's time to buy.
Haven't been wrong i think  Cheesy

I see more probability for a bullish scenario, on that case the new floor is building on the current price.
The best time to buy is now, so you're right (let's hope ^^).

I don't know if we will see a last attempt to break the support before the uptrend.

It's too early for wavepaltform to build their empire, but I like the concept of market dex being offered because other competitors just focus on the wallet. If waves get big in the future I hope they keep giving the seeds only control to the users and no change, now waves are still foreign, but I am sure they will develop well.
1279  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What to do when price keep dropping ? on: September 18, 2017, 04:07:37 AM
I choose not to sell it and continue to wait for the right price, if market conditions are so severe then I have to take advantage of buying momentum and can generate profits from the average price increase, if we choose coins whose development continues, there will be no word "delisting" from the market. we are expected to be smarter in speculation.
1280  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How cryptos affect your life? on: September 18, 2017, 03:53:50 AM
I hate forex for a long time because risking capital and risk is too high, many people fall and eventually lose, playing forex can not be successful if we do not go through trial and error process.

Crypto market provides the same but more can minimize the risk, although there is a margin option but users can be more relaxed not to use it.

Crypto made me end up liking the predecessor market and having a positive impact on long-term economic life.
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