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261  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Anyone can succeed as a bitcoin trader on: December 28, 2023, 12:13:48 PM
If you look at Bitcoin now, it should be said that Bitcoin is currently too high to be used as an investment coin if you started recently. but bitcoin is just one of millions of coins in the world. so there are still many similar coins that are no less interesting than bitcoin, maybe they are even early releases. We can be the first adaptation to make us people who will truly be successful as long as the coins we invest in are high in the future. this is very interesting. Crypto is broad, not just Bitcoin.

Crypto is indeed broad and not only Bitcoin is in it, but everyone also needs to understand that Bitcoin is the best of the millions of coins that already exist in crypto. And Bitcoin cannot be compared to other coins in crypto, although some people may still be able to find big profits in other coins now or in the future if the coins are still on the exchange.

Because coins other than Bitcoin have the possibility of being eliminated by the exchange if there is no progress in terms of transactions, while Bitcoin is not like that, the choice of Bitcoin should be the main one before someone chooses other coins in crypto. And even though the prices can be said to be quite different and expensive, everyone can buy them according to the capabilities they have without having to force themselves to get more at one time.
262  Local / Topik Lainnya / Re: SEBERAPA LAMA AKUN ANDA SUDAH TERDAFTAR DI BITCOINTALK ? on: December 28, 2023, 11:28:20 AM
Seberapa Lama akun kalian Sudah terdaftar di Bitcointalk? Mungkin hal ini tidaklah begitu penting untuk ditanyakan ataupun dinyatakan. Namun saya yakin ada kebanggaan tersendiri jika kita diakui atau mengakui dengan akun Bitcointalk kita sudah cukup lama terdaftar di forum Bitcointalk.org ini. Dan itu bisa membuktikan bahwa kita sudah mengikuti Bitcoin sudah sejak lama dan tidak merupakan seorang yang baru tahu Bitcoin.
Sebenarnya hal ini bukan tentang sebuah kebanggaan saja sih gan, karena banyak kok orang-orang yang mengetahui Bitcoin saat masih tahun 2013 namun tidak semua dari mereka masuk ke forum ini sehingga ketika mereka masuk ke forum ini pada saat menjelang pandemi juga tidak akan langsung mengalami peningkatan rank serta orang lain yang melihatnya pasti masih menganggap dia sebagai seorang newbie, padahal dia sendiri sudah lama mengetahui tentang Bitcoin. Selain itu, ada banyak juga orang-orang yang setelah masuk ke forum ini sudah tidak aktif lagi sehingga pengetahuannya tentang Bitcoin masih berkisar tentang pengetahuan yang lama, bukan tentang pengetahuan yang baru.

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Bagaimana dengan kalian? Apakah Ada yang lebih lama dari Akun Saya? Dan bagaimana kalian bisa tahu Bitcoin disaat itu? Kapan transaksi Bitcoin Anda dimulai? dan untuk apa?
Banyak kok akun yang lebih lama dari agan, coba lihat saja satu persatu di profil masing-masing akun karena tahun pembuatannya pasti terlihat gan. Dan untuk bagaimana bisa tahu tentang Bitcoin, saya sih cuma dikasih tahu oleh salah satu teman saja yang pada saat itu ingin mengajari saya tentang trading sehingga saya sempat kepikiran untuk mencari Bitcoin secara gratis melalui banyak situs yang tidak harus mengedepankan modal awalnya, sehingga saya bisa sampai kesini secara pelan-pelan gan.
263  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 28, 2023, 11:12:17 AM
You have spoken. I believe in the training grounds there are specific players which are the in the first team thaat they teach or prepare to play in a certain pattern. If those players becomes injured, the plans the coach have to implement will be affected. In Manchester City, every since De Bryne was injured there have been some lapses on how the team plays. De Bryne is talented to create some unique chances that most midfielder in the team cannot do. This is why they have lost in some certain goals and Haaland is finding it difficult to score much goals like last season.
The impact of Kevin De Bruyne's injury is quite visible on the Manchester City team, because it must be admitted that Kevin De Bruyne has become a very unique key player at Manchester City, making Manchester City stronger like last season. However, for this season the Manchester City coach must be able to change a habit to be better because currently Manchester City is still having a hard time staying in first place so they will only fight for the UCL zone if it is no longer possible to win again this season.
264  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin's Market Performance During the Christmas Period on: December 28, 2023, 11:05:56 AM
Bitcoin's market performance during the Christmas period over the past several years has been as follows:

- 2022: Decrease of 2.7%
- 2021: Decrease of 11.9%
- 2020: Increase of 22.3%
- 2019: Decrease of 1.1%
- 2018: Decrease of 5.3%
- 2017: Increase of 4.1%
Performance like that can still be said to be good and very normal because Bitcoin is very different from other cryptocurrencies on the market so its performance is always different from the others. And now everyone can also see how it performs after Christmas because the improvement can still be seen even though it still hasn't surpassed the $45K price tag.

not bad performance for the past Decembers but what we have now is different because we are nearing closing the year it has a good run and still running good so maybe this year will be different from those passed Decembers and the good indications that History not just repeating itself.
Obviously that is not a bad performance and now this is also the case where Bitcoin's performance itself is still quite good and has not experienced a significant decline. And if a major increase still doesn't happen by the end of this year, perhaps the closing price for the year will still be at a little over $44K or still below $45K for Bitcoin.
265  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: December 28, 2023, 09:34:41 AM
Saving some Bitcoin for the long term can be a wise decision especially considering its increasing mainstream adoption and the potential impact of the halving event. Separating a portion of your profits for longterm hodling is a good strategy to ensure you have some funds available for future success.
The impact of the halving event and also the mainstream adoption of Bitcoin in several places and countries has become quite a strong topic of conversation now. So the buyer's leverage is now starting to be seen quite clearly even though their purpose for buying is still unclear in the long term except to get more profits when the halving is over. However, it is also not wrong to do this because considering that Bitcoin is increasingly suitable for future investments with different time periods, so most people will still use Buy the DIP, and HODL for now.

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For that I have some money and I have already invested in Bitcoin and now I am using DCA method and I have decided to hold Bitcoin for more than 5 years. And I am sure that After 5 years I will be in profit because I believe in Bitcoin and in myself too.
I think it's not just about the timing, but also about how much profit you can get after you buy at this time. Because there are many people who get profits through their investments even though they haven't even reached five years, so this is not only about time, but also about how much profit and how much you can hold when you see the profit in your own wallet. But if you buy Bitcoin at this time not just for investment, maybe the story will be a little different from investors who only aim for profits through Bitcoin.
266  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is the only currency that has grown the most!! on: December 28, 2023, 09:06:22 AM
Despite the volatility of Bitcoin, anyone predicting a big correction in the market is not far from getting it wrong. Definitely the price of Bitcoin will drop but there is no tendency for it falling so much, I think the little correction is just there for those who wants to still accumulate Bitcoin, they can jump in by applying the DCA strategy.
Some may either wait hoping for the price to dump so they can purchase but that may not be the case as we are not expecting such to happen.
Normal price corrections can occur in the Bitcoin market with conditions that will not be quite different. Because what is meant here is a price correction that only occurs within a few percent without any drastic terms because large price drops only occur when the market is in a bearish condition. Meanwhile, in bullish conditions like now, it will be quite difficult to see prices drop drastically except for just a few percent of the highest price that has been created in the market.
267  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you rather start/grow a business from scratch or buy an existing business? on: December 28, 2023, 08:38:55 AM
Well I guess, that's up to the person. If he is qualified enough to handle such work then why not. Also if he had past experience then that's a plus point for him. The only disadvantage I see is that, a existing business can come with many challenges. So if I'm not qualified enough or smart enough to handle everything swiftly, it might create a lot of pressure.
It is indeed quite reasonable for every businessman when he is unable to handle every thing that arises while his business is running, because the main pressure usually comes from the business competitors themselves so every businessman has a duty to prevent his old customers from fleeing to other places with more differentiated service. So it becomes a pressure that comes naturally when a place starts to develop and a business starts to become famous throughout all corners and regions.

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I doubt that not everyone has such capabilities to handle those kind of mental pressure. One the other hand, if I start from scratch I can start small and grow it bigger over time. I assume you understand what I meant.
Basically, everyone has their own ideas for developing a business, so there are those who prefer to develop it from scratch and there are also those who prefer to manage a business that is already running. But I think both can be quite good to do even though each person's level of competence is different as in what you have said above where it really depends on the person as well as on the ability to handle it better without complaining about the pressure that can come with himself regarding the business he runs.
268  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I see many users talk about trading but does anyone here actually trading? on: December 26, 2023, 10:04:29 AM
A new fun meme token you can earn some fast money on. https://www.coingecko.com/sv/coins/yotoshi buy fast, sell faster. I am already on good profit. Going up very fast now, will prob turn around soon. Be aware.
The funny thing here is that when the meme token is probably going to turn downwards so quickly, why are you telling everyone here to buy it? In fact, if you tell this earlier or before you make a profit, maybe some people here will consider buying it. Especially if the nature of memes is not for the long term as you have said, where everyone has to buy quickly and sell quickly too. So in my opinion it is a very risky thing if there is a possibility that it will turn around quickly after being bought from now.
269  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Unstable prices of cryptocurrency on: December 26, 2023, 09:59:40 AM
Some people don't understand how the system works, bitcoin price must fluctuate because that's it's nature, I strong believe that this unstable nature of Bitcoin price has something to do with it's continues existence, but for sure when it come to btc you don't expect any less than this character, but the truth is that I won't blame the op because he us new in the system may be with time he will adapt, in money market generally, the unsteady price is a normal thing, that's is why the business is meant for people that have patience withstand whatever wave that may come in the process.
When you already understand this system and you see there are new people who still don't understand the system and the properties of Bitcoin. That's when you should give an explanation to the person so that he can better understand the market system and the nature of fluctuations in Bitcoin prices, although over time people like the OP will also understand if they continue to learn and be patient enough to see and deal with all the situations that occur in about the market and Bitcoin.
270  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: 👑 CoinRoyale.com | Liverpool vs Newcastle ⚽ 02 January (FreeBet 1mBTC). on: December 26, 2023, 09:53:36 AM
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271  Economy / Economics / Re: Crisis everywhere it's time to come together and unite on: December 23, 2023, 12:15:53 AM
Times like this it's time to join and unite together
So what is the next innovative business we should do ?
Times are difficult and we feel like victims of beyrayel
I see that anyone who bring up some good idea not trusted instantly....but only way is unite together many people don't have income anymore and no money.
So who from us Will create us new currency? And we All use this currency and get some airdrop ?
It is natural that the expression of a new idea is not immediately believed because of the many frauds that have occurred so far, a new idea is immediately believed without any further research into what has been expressed. So don't be discouraged when someone else immediately rejects your idea because in reality everyone also needs to research every suggestion and idea offered by someone else. And if you want to gather more people who no longer have money to create a new currency and get an Airdrop, I think it will be difficult to succeed because when we don't have money any work will be difficult to carry out.

OP , while your idea may face challenges in becoming a reality, it's essential to acknowledge the difficulties and work towards practical solutions. Facing the current hardships requires concerted effort and taking meaningful actions. Let's focus on realistic strategies to overcome challenges and strive for a better future.
I agree more and can be reasonable enough to focus on realistic strategies rather than the ideas offered by the OP that do have challenges to implement. This is not only about a struggle, but also about something that is really difficult to do in conditions like today because everyone has a better focus on their own targets so that anything that is very difficult will not be accomplished if There is no truly realistic solution or common ground to work on together.
272  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: December 22, 2023, 11:53:26 PM
Before Bitcoin went into this current DIP, many people bought at the pick $60k and above, it takes only a true Bitcoin investor who is well propounded with the knowledge of Bitcoin to keep holding till now. Many must have sold with disappointment and dissatisfaction of making profit only as investing into the market then.
Currently the price of Bitcoin is still not that high so you or anyone may still be too early to say that many people will buy at $60K and above, because everyone can still get Bitcoin below $45K. So it is not really feasible to judge whether a true investor will really stick with their current investment or not, because every investor must have a mature target and plan for what they buy and also for what they will invest in any way.

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Buying aggressively in advantage of the current DIP as to hold enough Bitcoin in my wallet before hitting a new All Time High does not necessarily mean am into short term investment. This is taking advantage of the market, having enough funds and accumulating very well is something that will benefit more not necessarily meaning will sell when the price climbs a little.
I don't think it's an aggressive purchase if you only aim to collect Bitcoin when the price is still in the Dip category, because everyone who buys Bitcoin with funds they have prepared for investment purposes within a certain period of time definitely has a very good goal. So no one will be able to judge whether you will invest in the short term or long term, because the one who will determine that is yourself or the owner of the asset itself.
273  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My first Bitcoin on: December 22, 2023, 10:58:31 PM
Congratulations ,all of my forum mates for earning their first Bitcoin. I know only two ways to earn Bitcoin. First forum, second mining. I get my first Bitcoin payment on the forum bounty campaign. I feel so exciting when I get my first payment on the forum. Forums  give the opportunity to all earn Bitcoin.
If you get your first payment through a bounty campaign on this forum, it means you did not directly receive Bitcoin from this forum. Because usually the bounty campaign pays through stable altcoins or through tokens developed by the campaign team itself and distributed to all participants who take part in it. But this is also not a serious problem because as long as you can sell the tokens or altcoins that you get through the bounty campaign directly on a certain exchange, you can also use the proceeds from selling the tokens or altcoins to directly buy Bitcoin.
274  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin create an opportunity to reduce poverty? on: December 22, 2023, 04:12:18 PM
Almost all countries are controlled by the interests of policy makers, we don't expect anything more from them.
The simple thing we can do is provide education to our closest family & friends. Let the knowledge you share spread like word of mouth.
People from lower to upper middle class economies are aware of themselves and want to learn about cryptocurrency.
But unfortunately there is always a big wall blocking their interests. Often these big walls are created by the government itself.
When there are still barriers to learning something that is considered important by society, such as the parable of the wall that you said. So everyone must also be able to find ways and solutions so that they can continue to learn more things in order to obtain a fairly independent economic income in their own lives. Because when every policy is controlled through the interests of a group of people, of course it will always be difficult for society to experience progress and prosperity through itself.
275  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 22, 2023, 04:04:35 PM
I cant believe how Real Madrid ended up winning the yesterday game against Alaves... Alaves had all in their hands with one men more since the very early phase of the game, but they ended up losing in the last minute, huge win for Real Madrid because earlier Girona draw aginst Betis.
There is no need to be surprised by the match results obtained by Real Madrid because Deportivo Alaves is a promoted team in La Liga whose strength is very different from the strongest team in La Liga, namely Real Madrid. So it is not surprising that Real Madrid was able to win the away match even though they were short of players, even with just one goal at the end of the match. Meanwhile, Real Betis is indeed a fairly strong team this season so it is normal for them to be able to draw with Girona, who have often appeared impressive in La Liga this season.
276  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: You will burn on: December 19, 2023, 03:13:41 PM
Before investing we need to think whether we are going to invest in bitcoin or invest in sheet coins. I always prefer bitcoin investment over sheet coins. Because bitcoin investment is always a long term investment. Because if we patiently plan long term investment then we will get success with bitcoin investment.

It seems like you are just explaining which option you would use yourself for long-term investment and then suggesting it to others. Indeed, this is not wrong, but you also need to know the desires of a person or those who want to become an investor for the investment period that they will make, because not everyone wants to invest long term.

So it wouldn't be wrong if someone wanted to choose a coin other than Bitcoin with a short-term investment target, even though an investor usually also takes Bitcoin and places it in a long-term investment. And over time he also took advantage of short-term investments to buy Bitcoin again so that the amount of investment in Bitcoin could continue to increase.
277  Local / Topik Lainnya / Re: Apakah Ini Real atau Scam? on: December 19, 2023, 02:57:56 PM
Jadi langsung saja. Tadi pagi tetangga ane lagi pada rame katanya ada aplikasi penghasil duit dari online. Cara ikutannya mudah dan gampang. Katanya hanya dengan rebahan saja bisa dapat cuan. Ya ane suspicious mirip-mirip kayak Vtube, cuman ane belum tahu aplikasinya namanya apa. Dan dia memberikan screenshot bukti saldo yang dia miliki, pendapatan kemarin dan pendapatan hari ini. Ane liat angka-angkanya cukup menggiurkan. Ane berbagi disini karena siapa tahu ada teman-teman disini yang punya pengalaman dengan aplikasi ini.



Saya lihat ada tulisan "Referral Rebate" yang dibawahnya juga tertulis jumlah pendapatannya. Hal ini membuat saya curiga kalau itu adalah sistem ponzi yang mengharuskan kita untuk nyari orang lain supaya ada pendapatannya gan dan bahkan bisa jadi setelah ada banyak orang yang direkrut untuk ikut kedalam sistem itu, kita akan diminta untuk melakukan deposit lagi kesana. Bingung juga nanti jadinya, tetapi coba tanyakan secara jelas dulu pada kawan agan yang membagikan hal ini di sosial medianya supaya ada kejelasan yang lebih komplit untuk kita pahami dan kita cari tahu sama-sama, tetapi melihat apa yang disampaikan oleh agan @BABY SHOES. Sepertinya itu benar-benar ponzi yang memang tidak layak untuk didekati karena sangat rentan dengan scam sehingga saya tidak percaya kalau itu adalah real karena tidak akan mungkin sebuah aplikasi bisa membayar semua orang dengan jumlah sebesar itu dalam setiap saat gan.
278  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: December 19, 2023, 02:46:28 PM
PSG just use their carelessness spoil things for me yesterday. They made me realize it's not yet over until the final whistle is blown. I don't know why team easily loose control during the last minute to still concede a goal.
That's PSG, and everyone can probably judge for themselves why until now PSG can only experience domestic trophies in Ligue1 and still can't experience more prestigious trophies such as in the UCL. So if you are a PSG supporter, then don't be discouraged because PSG's abilities are like that and nothing more than that now, especially if this season there aren't that many star players there anymore so PSG will just be as usual in hoping for trophies. Namely in Ligue1, not in the UCL even though PSG qualified for the next round in the UCL.
279  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 19, 2023, 02:12:59 PM
It's spectacular what Girona has achieved this season, a small Club between the giants Barcelona and Real Madrid.
No one expected Girona to compete at the top of the La Liga standings.
And based on points scored, Girona is the best team in Europe's top five leagues.
It's great to see a club that plays football well and has its style.
Michel Sanchez deserves appreciation for his hard work. He built the current team over the past two years.
The consistency built by the Girona players and the Girona coach this season has really provided very satisfying results for themselves in La Liga. Girona is not in any other competition this season apart from La Liga so Girona can make quite amazing tactics this season in every match in La Liga so it is not surprising to see Girona able to be at the top of the La Liga standings by leaving Real Madrid and Barcelona behind. However, Girona does not have to feel proud about the current results because Real Madrid and Barcelona are still very dangerous teams in La Liga who even still have the potential to disturb Girona at the top of the standings this season.
280  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Unstable prices of cryptocurrency on: December 18, 2023, 09:48:22 AM
Is Liquidity related to altcoins, not Bitcoin?

Bitcoin does not have staking pools and it only has Trading volume.
Altcoins have Proof of Stake or staking pools with their promised APYs, and they have Liquidity pools too.
Comparing Bitcoin with any altcoin, it is clear that anyone will find differences and even very special differences. A close example is Bitcoin which is able to make the market look better when its price is increasing and immediately has an influence on most of the altcoins that have been in the market for a long time. Meanwhile, altcoins cannot have such an impact on each other as well as on Bitcoin when the market is in bad conditions or when Bitcoin is experiencing a price decline, so the difference is quite clear and quite real when explored more fully.
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