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401  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Whole Concept of Bitcoin is Failing! on: December 21, 2023, 11:24:49 PM
I’m sorry, was the concept of Bitcoin to be the cheapest payment system? No. The concept of Bitcoin has its primary focus on decentralization, security, P2P electronic cash, etc. But I do agree that the transaction fee happens to be a big challenge in general. What’s even worse is that we do not know what’s happening next, will the transaction fees keep flying high or will it reduce already? But nonetheless, Satoshi’s focus wasn’t cheapest payment system.

Yes, perhaps what he meant is that it was design by Satoshi to be a payment system. So it could be cheap in the beginning, but we all know that Bitcoin has evolved so much and now it is a store of value and assets.

But as far as the concern of OP regarding the transaction fee is absolutely right. As we can see there's a lot of threads about the implications of those ordinals clogging the network forcing the fees to skyrocket. And just imagine what it will bring to the ecosystem if we hit the bull run in the next coming years. Perhaps something needs to be done here uses LN, but not sure if that will be the solution to be honest.
402  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: December 21, 2023, 10:53:55 PM
Joel Embiid really went off yesterday. Scoring 51 points against a team with the best record in the NBA and likely defensive player of the year. I’m actually impressed. I was thinking it would go the other way and Embiid would struggle and his team would lose. That was one of those games people get reminded about when the MVP voting starts.

Yeah, I think he has something to proved this year, he put all the big men of Wolves into foul trouble. And then his shooting touch and grab 12 rebounds. Maxey too has a great performance. We should not forget as well on the defense they put against Anthony Edwards.

OKC vs Clippers, this is the game to watch tonight, OKC huge favorite, but Clippers is holding that they can continue with their winning streak.
And then we have the Wolves vs the Lakers. Lebron needed this win to get back into the groove, they are 1-4 after winning the In-Season Tournament.
403  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Hard Rock to Hire 400 People Ahead of Rockford Casino Opening on: December 21, 2023, 10:32:28 PM
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I think it depends though, but it's obvious that if you have the skills that they need then you can apply with this opportunity from Hard Rock. So it could not be for everyone here, maybe some of us have regular jobs already or it could only be applicable to those young players that we have here.

But it's good to hear that they are opening a lot of opportunities for employment. But it could be very tight and competition to get hire will be tough as there are a lot of individuals in the States that unemployed.
404  Local / Pilipinas / Re: [Tutoryal]: Paano gamitin ang Viabtc transaction accelerator on: December 21, 2023, 10:14:35 PM
@OP, Medyo nalilito pa dn talaga ako sa requirements ng ViaBTC accelerator lalo na sa part ng “single transaction volume”. Hindi ko alam kung pano madedetermine yung transaction volume at kung ano ang conversion ng BTC/kb sa sat/vB na typical na gunagamit na unit sa transaction fee.

Lastly supported ba ng ViaBTC accelerator ang non RBF transaction. Minsan kasi ay gumagamit ako ng trustwallet sa pag store ng Bitcoin dahil nagsswap ako sa ibang network gamit ang altcoins ko.

Mahirap kasi kung magiging masyado tayong technical sa pag compute ng mga transaksyon fees natin, pero sana makatulong to:

How to calculate bitcoin transaction size and fees. Usually sat/vB na ang mga ginagamit sa ngayon.

Difference between sat/byte, sat/WU and sat/vByte?. At ang sabi ni @pooya87,

Keep in mind that "sat/byte" unit is obsolete now and explorers and wallets must not use it to represent the fee rate that the transactions are paying since it would be both misleading and in any transaction with witness it will be the wrong value.

Sa pagkakalam ko supported ng ViaBTC ang mga non-RBF transactions. Heto nga malamang ang target nilang audience, yung mga gumawa ng transaksyon ng hindi naka enable ang RBF fee kasi kung naka enable to, mas gagamitin ko ang RBF kesa dun sa paid accelelator nila o iba pang accelerator services.

@benalexis12 - walang reservations, unahan lang talaga na makapasok ka dun sa 100 na available slots nila every hour. Kaya nga dapat nakatutok na sa oras kung gusto mong gamitin ang free service nila.

@peter0425 - nandun naman sa baba ung explanation nila about paid services. Kaya lang ba't ka magbabayad ng extra pa kung magagamit mo ang free service nila.

Kahit ang mempool meron din paid services na rin para ma-accelerate ang mga transactions. Pero ganun din gagastos ka parin ng malaki.

Kaya dapat tingnan natin ang fee natin baka magpadala, hindi natin kukunin ang highest priority dahil ang mahal, pwede naman bawasan natin tapos accelerate natin using viabtc, basta naman wag sobrang baba ng fee. Nakalagay naman sa free service nila ang limitasyon, ≤0.5 KB.

@benalexis12 - parang baliktad yata kasi kung gagamitin mo ung paid services nila mas lalo kang mapapamahal dahil nagbayad ka na ng una sa tx mo, tapos babayad ka ulit para ma prioritized siya. Kung ganun dapat kunin mo na lang ang highest priority base sa mempool, at least isang bayaran na lang.

Talagang tiyempuhan lang, minsan talaga ang bilis minsan nakaka pasok naman agad ako sa oras natin.
405  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: December 21, 2023, 09:50:23 PM
Heto picks ko:

Magic -4.5 laban sa Heat
Cavs -3.5 laban sa Jazz
Pacers -7.5 laban sa Hornets

Congrats bai, 2 out of 3, di na masama, profit pa rin kahit papaano. Yong Magic ko ay inalat ng husto, akala ko pa naman na walang kaba yong panalo nila dahil wala si Jimmy Butler pero pinatay lang pala sila ni Tyler Herro. Grabe yong 3's ng Heat na siyang dahilan kung bakit natambakan yong Magic sa second quarter.

Sasabay lang muna ako sa picks nyo, medyo maalat pa yong panghuhula ko, malamig pa sa Pasko  Sad.

Ano kayang nangyari sa Magic, 3 game losing streak na sila ah, ang lakas ng dating nito nung umpisa, ngayon eh maaabutan na ng Knicks, Cavs at Heat. Parang hype job lang ah. hehehe.

Marami akong hula bai, sana pumutok hehehe

Bulls -3.5 laban sa Spurs, mainit ang Bulls ngayon mula nang umupo si Lavine @1.77
Memphis vs Pacers, balik na si Ja, lupit nung ginawa lang game, nag habol, maganda pa odds dito -1.5 laban sa Pacers @1.88
Cavs medyo nadedehado rin ng konti +2.5 laban sa NOP @1.88
Parehong kolelat na team, pero sa tingin ko may pangdulo ang Utah -1.5 @1.98

So mga juicy mga odds nyan, ewan ko lang kung nagbago na at kagabi ko pa to tinaya.
406  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🐺 wild.io 🎰 Wheel of Fortune 🎁 Daily Rewards 🔥 10 Minutes Cashouts on: December 20, 2023, 11:44:56 PM
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At least the launch of your casino would get you more exposure and attract attention as you desire. I believe your casino would make it big time here. Good luck on your campaign launch.

Yep, they have been in this community for at least a year now. Maybe they are just doing other promotions in the past and now they think that it's the right time to jump on the signature campaigns as this is one of the best promotions I will say specially from this community. Competition is tough but definitely it's worth a try to have campaigns here. And go shoulder to shoulder against established casinos.

And personally, they have my favorite games like Evolution Lightning Roulette which I fall in love in the last couple of months or so.

I also will give +1 to what @xLays says, have some competition in the Games and rounds board.
407  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Teofimo Lopez Vs. Jamaine Ortiz WBO Welterweight Title February 8 on: December 20, 2023, 11:26:28 PM
Lopez may be a favorite in this fight but Ortiz can deliver a huge upset if Lopez comes out easy in this fight like he did against Sandor Martin, Ortiz has matured after his fight against Loma.
Lopez has a history of undermining his opponents he has done this two times already against Kambosos and then against Sandor and Ortiz is a better fighter than Sandor if we are talking about fight comparison with Lomachenko.
Lopez when he fought Loma, Loma had a shoulder injury, while Ortiz when he fought Loma was 100% in perfect condition, so the comparison will not add up.

Let's see, I also consider this as a tough fight for Lopez specially that Ortiz is no longer has to squeeze his body to 135 lbs as he is moving to 140 lbs. The only problem with Ortiz is that he usually faded in the later rounds but maybe it was due to him really having a hard time making 135. So him moving might do more good on him.

So Teo shouldn't underestimate Ortiz here, as this two has history in the amateur Lopez beat Ortiz in the National Golden Gloves Quarterfinal way back 2015.

Maybe this is payback for Ortiz, or Teo retaining his belt in a hard fight. And most likely Teo Lopez will be the favorite here, maybe Ortiz 3:1 underdog (I haven't check crypto sports bookies yet).
408  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Michael Jordan a gambling addict ? on: December 20, 2023, 11:06:51 PM
Yeah, you can call him addict by definition, if he spend a lot of money gambling like everyday. But this guy is a billionaire, so whatever money he loses, he can easily recoup it back without actually chasing it with his investment, and then his shoe brand and others source of income.

However, for us, who doesn't have the money to gamble in the first place and then become addicted, then that is the very definition of a gambling addict as it will ruin our lives. But MJ, maybe he has control of himself or maybe not, but with the amount of money he is generating, I don't think he will be poor by gambling addict standards or the supposedly bad effects on gambling.
409  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: December 20, 2023, 10:54:46 PM
Season debut ni Ja Morant ngayon after 25 games suspension. Napakaganda ng pagbabalik nya, 34 points at 5+ assist at rebounds. Tapos buzzer beater pa sya solid talaga. Sana may natutunan ang bata sa 25 suspension na yun. Kailangan na kailangan talaga sya ng team nya. At sana maka habol pa sila sa Playoffs.  Kayo ba sa tingin nyo makakahabol pa sa Playoffs ang Memphis na ngayon ay 3rd to the last sila sa conference nila pero ilang games pa naman ang natitira. 7-19 , 56 games pang natitira.

Kaya pang maihabol ni Ja Morant yong Wolves sa playoffs kung hindi na siya ma-suspended. Baka kabaligtaran na sa ngayon yong mangyari sa Wolves, hindi na losing streak kung hindi winning streak na naman. Sana nga ay may natutunan na siyang matino sa mga nangyayari sa kanya. Yong pera kasi balewala lang sa kanila yon sa tingin.

BTW, talo yong bet ko sa Bucks kanina, akala ko tuloy-tuloy na yong tambakan pero biglang binitawan ng Bucks yong laro kaya nakahabol ng kaunti yong Spurs at hindi na na-cover yong spread.

Magic -5.5 @1.84 vs Heat

^^ bet ko para bukas,

Ang daming trap sa laro kahapon, kaya talaga nag pass ako eh. Ja Morant comeback, ang lupet, kala ko OT last 9 seconds, ayun kinain ng buhay ang bantay hehehe.

Ganun din ang Boston, akala mo sure win na, -5.5 sa betting line, pero, na forced ng OT, at tinalo ang league leading Boston Celtics.

Portland din, sinibak ang Phoenix Suns.

Heto picks ko:

Magic -4.5 laban sa Heat
Cavs -3.5 laban sa Jazz
Pacers -7.5 laban sa Hornets
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411  Economy / Speculation / Re: BITCOIN BULLISH PENNANT. on: December 19, 2023, 11:53:14 PM

I am not sure that all these technical analysis figures are working correctly. For example now it was clear that bitcoin will rise because a lot of Tether was printed and also many people expect a new spot etf.
The price of Bitcoin is supposed to break the $69,000 barrier within the next 7 to 10 months. Therefore, if we reach this level, it will be reassuring for investors, especially since it is possible to rise to the level of $10,000 within two months, which means that the possibility of a correction is possible, but the price is still in a good range and is not denominated by more than Its value.
The bitcoin price is moving up and down as usual depending from the ask and demand and the interfering of third parties including big whales. For the $69k I think we will end up by seeing it again in a year from now or at worst in 2025. Before the halving the price tend to get lower then rise before falling at some point to correct itself then the positive trend will occur eventually. Too many speculation and I insist about the fact of holding our saving until we get a good price to spend. People are talking even about 6 figures for bitcoin, I hope so!

It's sideways, but as per the TA of the OP that time, definitely there is a bullish pennant. As for breaking the previous all time high, yes, this is more likely, it could be in the next 7-10 months give and take. But definitely it will be inside 2025, as this could be the year that the price is going to be push to it's highest, specially good news will be around that time frame.

There are members that could be affected by too much speculation, but for the majority, doesn't matter, you just have to learn to read between the lines and you will be good. Or even learn from those who are posting their TA here. So for now short term, we do hope that $45k at least at the end of the year will be a good indication that the incoming year will be very bullish as halving is approaching.
412  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: December 19, 2023, 11:42:51 PM

BTW, we have the Warriors hosting the Celtics tomorrow, I'm guessing, Warriors will lose.  Grin

I don't have to think on what team to bet as I like the Celtics on this. The Warriors are in a win streak, back at home hosting the hottest team now in the East, so I would back on the better team there. The Warriors will now be tested if they can still win against a strong team despite missing Draymond Green, so I guess it's no brainer than the Celtics will win.

If you are betting, the spread now is -5.5 for the Cetlics, quite high on the road but this Celtics team is capable of bringing a double digit win.

I already have the Celtics at the handicap beat. Definitely with how the Celtics are blending, there chances to defeat are very high. While the Warriors is a good team with Curry, but they are build different now. I mean Klay still struggling and so is Andrew Wiggins, not sure why the Warriors are moving like this, maybe their age as really catching up with them.

Ja Morant is back, so we will see if he still has that swagger to help his team to go back to their form. Might take some games for him though to adjust as their number 1 offensive player. 13th spot on the West, losing record of 6-19, losing 5 straight games. Let's see how he will turn around this team.
413  Local / Pilipinas / Re: [Tutoryal]: Paano gamitin ang Viabtc transaction accelerator on: December 19, 2023, 01:57:07 PM
So Ibig sabihin direkta na agad ipaste yung txid na ginawan ng transaction halimbawa sa electrum wallet kahit na sabihin natin na nasa 300 sats yung nandun sa app wallet ay posible pang mabawasan yung fees na binawas dun mismo sa Electrum wallet? tama ba dude?

Hindi ko sure kung anong pa ibig mong sabihin, pero tama, yung txid id na makukuha mo sa Electrum ay ang ilalagay mo sa viabtc. Kung 300 sat/vB ang nakalagay dun, pwede mo itong babain dahil pwede naman sa Electrum na ikaw ang mag lagay ng fee, ikaw ang mag customized. So ganun, nga kung 300 sat/vB halimbawa ang fastest sa mempool, pwede mong gawin 70 sat/vB na lang. Then yung makuha mong txid eh yun ang ilagay mo sa textbook dun sa Transaction ID. At antayin mong makapasok.

Matagal ko narin kasing naririnig yang viabtc pero hindi ko pa nasubukan yung pwedeng magawa nyan sa mga magsasagawa ng transaction. Salamat din sa pagclarify na hindi kailangan na gumawa ng account dyan. Subukan ko nga yang tutorial na ginawa mo dude.
God bless you ulit kabayan.

Sa experience ko, ito lang ang transaction accelerator ang talagang gumagana. Ganyan din ang ginagawa ko, tingin sa mempool ng fee, tapos i reduce ko sya sa Electrum then paste ko sa viabtc. And so far nakapa effective nito, minsan pag paste ko magugulat na lang ako na may nakuha na akong 1 confirmation kahit minsan nasa 300 MB ago from the tip.

Sinubukan ko yan gamitin nung huling Bitcoin transaction ko 8 days ago pero hindi sya nag success kasi may error kahit meron pa naman siyang Remaining hourly FREE transactions, basta ang naaala ko is yung volume limit ata or size, more or less 500MB? Di ako sure, di ko kasi na screenshot. Ilang beses ko rin sinubukan nun pero same error lang lumalabas, kaya hinayaan ko na lang at gumamait ng ibang free bitcoin accelerators pero di ko naman alam kung legit ba mga yun.

Tama, masyadong ang fee na nilagay mo. Dapat eh ≤0.5 KB. Kung ganyan wala kang magagawa kundi mag intay ng 2 weeks or hanggang i drop ang transaction mo at bumalik sa wallet mo. Hindi ko lang alam kung anong wallet mo, pero sa Bitcoin core,

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mempoolexpiry=336

So 336 hours =14 days by default.

Dahil sa taas ng fee ngayon ay talagang maiipit na lang ang ating mga konting kinikita sa wallets natin specially yung galing sa mga signature campaign na sahod natin weekly. Sa nakikita ko dito sa thread mo kabayan ay napakalaking tulong ito para mapabilis ang pagconfirm ng isang transaction lalo na at gumagamit lamang tayo ng mas mababang priority para makatipid sa transaction fee.

Lahat talaga tayo apektado sa pagtaas ng fee, pagtanggap natin sa sahod sa campaign eh hindi naman agad papasok sa tin. Sa mga nakita kong campaign, ang range ang fee ng binabayad ng campaign manager from 70 sat/vB to 150 sat/vB. So masyadong mahal talaga ang hindi agad to naconfirmed kung hahataw naman sa 300 sat/vB pataas ang fee. Ngayon eh nasa ~288 sat/vB or $17.00. Tapos pagpasok pa sa wallet natin, need pa nating tong ilipat sa wallet na katulad ng coins.ph para ma exchange natin sa PHP kung kailangan natin ng cash.

@robelneo - hindi ko sya napapansin pero talagang tinitiyempuhan ko na sa tuwing mag re-reset every hour.
414  Local / Pilipinas / [Tutoryal]: Paano gamitin ang Viabtc transaction accelerator on: December 19, 2023, 01:04:13 AM
Dahil sa congested ang network ngayon, at maraming nagtatanong kung paano mapapabilis ma confirmed ang ating transaction, isang suwestiyon ang gumamit ng transaction accelerator.

So naisipan kung gumawa ng simpleng tutoryal tungkol dito para sa mga hindi pa nakakagamit nito or medyo nalilito pa sana makatulong sa inyo.

1. Pumunta sa official website nila: (https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator)



Makikita sa halimbawa na mayroong "Remaining hourly FREE transactions" 63 transactions na libre na pwede nating gamitin o i take advantage para mapabilis natin ang transaction.

2. I lagay ang iyong transaction ID sa "Please enter your Transaction ID" textbox at i-click ang "FREE submission" button.



3. Sagutin ang Captcha.



4. Makikita sa taas ang message na "Successfully submitted an acceleration request" kung ang iyong transaksyon ay tinanggap.



Kung hindi ito pumasok, makikita nyong naman ang message na ganito: "Submissions are beyond limit. Please try again later".



Ibig sabihin nito ubos na ang Free submission nila at kailangan mong mag-antay dahil every hour ang reset nito. So kung gusto mo mapasama ang transaction o mapabilis mag antay ka sa susunod na oras at ulitin ang proceso hanggang matanggap ang transaksyon mo, (UTC ang ginagamit nilang timezone).

Tapos makikita mo rin naman sa baba ang limitasyon ng free submission.

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FREE Submission
01 Enter the TXID
Paste or enter the TXID you want to accelerate. The volume of a single transaction must be ≤0.5 KB, and the transaction fee rate should be ≥ 0.0001 BTC/KB.

Tingin ko sakto na to sa 1 input=1 output transaction. So halimbawa sa signature campaigns natin, pag pasok sa Electrum at ipapasok natin halimbawa sa Coins.ph or ano mang wallet, pwede na tong ≤0.5 KB.

Note: yung mga Transaction ID na ginamit ko, galing to sa mempool at hindi ito sa kin. At hindi mo na rin kailangan mag register ng account sa kanila unless gagamitin mo yung Paid Service nila.
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416  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2023-2024 betting on: December 18, 2023, 10:41:17 PM
I got lucky last night, hitting a 5 game parlay with a odds of 11.63 Here.
Congrats on cashing that sweet five-legged.  Wink

I got lucky last night, hitting a 5 game parlay with a odds of 11.63 Here.
Very nice win. Congratulations.

Congrats to you as well, it was a sweep on your end,  Grin

Thanks mate, I skipped the Suns game, not confident with them having that -10.5 (or isn't it 12.5?) initial line and same with the the GSW, although they've won and cover the spread by just .5 points. hehehe.

My 3 game parlay here, handicap and then over and under. My handicap is @5.95 and then over and under @.6.50.

my picks,

Cavs -3.5, Clippers -1.5, Wolves -1.5 Mavs +8.5.
417  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Market Correction on: December 18, 2023, 10:28:30 PM
Maybe this only affects futures trading when it comes to liquidation. For spots or holders, this may be normal and normal if there is a price reduction.

It is normal for a price decrease to usually test a support level or close a gap that occurs. What's worse happens only in the form of a wick and the price goes back up or recovers. To be safer when playing in futures, always pay attention to the leverage and margin we use, considering how volatile the Bitcoin market is.

Or correction is needed so that speculators and investors can go and buy at entry point that is lower. But for those who are here in the long term, doesn't matter. If we do DCA, it might be good to buy when the price goes down, but it's average so it's irrelevant.

And I think though but future and spot traders are going to be affected as when there is liquidations because of price reduction.

The real winner here is the HODLer, because they are not affected by the price. Their mentality is to just hold for a long time and obviously profit taking is for the future, when we reaches new all time high.
418  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which type of gambling have more gambling addicts ? on: December 18, 2023, 10:09:37 PM
I don't know if this has been discussed before or not.
 
Reading about gambling addiction I don't think it's a new topic, but fitting to be in here, I just want to ask: between casino gambling, in-house gambling, and one-on-one gambling with physical players available on the table, which among these is more likely to turn someone into a gambling addict if the person doesn't have self-control in all his gambling activities?
 
Now are days I see much or all this in house gamblers becoming addicted and acting weird over gambling results, and walking down into some betting shop, you will see most of those gamblers spending their whole day in the gambling shop, which made me have the above question. I know any form of gambling can produce gambling addicts, but among all, there is one that is most common, which is what I want to hear from others.

Everything is about self-control, including in gambling. So any form, whether you sit on the table and play with other players, or play slot games and dice, you will be addicted if you lost control of yourself.

So doesn't matter about the numbers or statistics, you can go to land-based and say that there are more men than women. But how about online though? we don't see their faces only their user name and to some extend how big they are as a bettor.
419  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: December 18, 2023, 11:42:52 AM
Meron bang sumunod dito sa tip ko? hehehe

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Portland Trail Blazers - Golden State Warriors - Under 233.5
Phoenix Suns - Washington Wizards - Under 247.5
Milwaukee Bucks - Houston Rockets - Over 228.5

Kung meron, sana nanalo kayo, ginawa ko pang juicy ang odds jan, ang palisutin ko jan eh ang Warriors+Portland, lumabas eh 232 ang score, muntikan na talaga, hehehe

Swetihan lang tong experiment na to:



Tapos heto naman ang parlay ko:

Dito naman eh yung Bucks vs Rockets ang palisutin ko, dikit lang. Nung sinilip ko eh lamang lang ng 5 yata ang Bucks, pag balik ko pagtapos maligo eh tapos na at nanalo na ng 9 points, -5.5 ako dito. Ang laki na ng lamang ng Boston at ng Pelicans kaya sure win na talaga ang inantay ko nalang eh ang resultang nitong laro na to, pero yung over nya swak na ang taya ko dahil sobra sobra pa talaga ang score ng dalawang team.



Edit: Cavs -3.5, Clippers -1.5, Wolves -1.5 Mavs +8.5.



420  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2023-2024 betting on: December 17, 2023, 09:06:23 PM
I got lucky last night, hitting a 5 game parlay with a odds of 11.63 Here.

Boston vs Magic is currently playing, wasn't able to bet on this one but the Celtics is already on a double digit lead after struggling on the first quarter. However, they came back in the second quarter, now leading by double digits.

I think the initial line for this game is -6.5 so good chance to win that handicap.

@danherbias07 - I skipped the Pacers game and have the OKC +6.5 against the Nuggets to complete my parlay. I thought I have lost my bet as the Nuggets is leading by 8 points in the last 3 minutes.
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