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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [Mining OS] SimpleMining.net - Easy to use GPU MINING Operating System
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on: May 14, 2017, 09:28:34 PM
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Hey Tytanick, I think I found a small bug/potential QOL improvement.
I'm using the beta dashboard (idk if this makes a difference) and I found that in the overclock settings, if I input a new mem clock, and leave the core clock field blank, the OC fails to apply, and I receive a message saying I input a false clock value, and smos actually attributes the change to core, even though I filled out the mem clock field. This is easily worked around by just inputting the core value that the card is already set to into the core field, but feels redundant and un-intuitive.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Garage / Residential Data Center Mining Cave Planning - Garage Grotto Part 1 :D
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on: May 11, 2017, 07:38:33 PM
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5 Rigs or are you going to grow. You can run 5 rigs on a 50 Amp 230V circuit easily with room for about 4 more. You have plenty of open slots for expansion. I would definitely recommend a PDU or 2 to handle the PSU connections from the rigs and run them at 230/240V since the PSU's are more efficient. It's only like 2-3% but worth it.
You are running older cards and will want to exhaust the heat generated by those 280X to the outside. Phil has a good idea, I did something different and bought 2 - 30 inch barrel fans and opened the garage side door and stapled a screen over the frame. Built a tarp canopy out of PVC pipe and a tarp to keep out the rain. Placed the fans on a wire shelf and had them facing so that they pulled air across the rigs in front of them. Had to keep my garage door open about 4 inches to let fresh outside ambient air in. In August in Florida my cards all stayed under 75 degrees Celsius.
I ran 5 rigs for several months last summer. I only have 100 amp service, and was tripping breakers a lot, especially since we have a Volt with a level 2 charger. I had to explain to my wife not to plug in her car till after we finished cooking dinner. Stove + Volt + A/C + Hot water tank + Rigs overloaded my mains.
Good luck with the build and post some pics when its running!
How large was your garage and how many cards were you running? Those are some pretty good results in FL!
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [Mining OS] SimpleMining.net - Easy to use GPU MINING Operating System
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on: May 11, 2017, 02:16:19 PM
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Soothaa,
I spent a good bit of the day futzing with that machine and I'm convinced that it's just not going to support 7 cards until MSI releases a new bios that's going to allow us to disable the SATA controller. I have several z98 boards from them that support 7 cards and in each case, the option that allows use of the 7th card is the ability to disable the SATA controller.
With 7 cards on the z170a, you can get 7 cards to show up in the OS and Claymore but as soon as a stress is put on the cards, you start to see weirdness with the OS like hangups or dropping network. I believe this is due to a resource constraint. Possibly interrupts or memory addresses. I went through the OS and ensured that everything that could be disabled was. That included: Audio, HPTimer, and the Serial port. Could be that the next BIOS from MSI fixes things. Only time will tell.
The highlight of the day had to be the new USB risers. Back in 2013/2014, those were crazy expensive and difficult to get. Now days, they're cheaper than the risers I bought years ago. These new ones popped right in and replaced the older risers AND the jumper wires I'd had to put in the PCIe slots to force the motherboard to see the cards.
From what I've read on here, people have been able to get the MSI z170a boards to run fine with 7 cards in windows, no? If that is the case, then it must be something else...
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Garage Mining
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on: May 10, 2017, 10:23:28 PM
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How are you guys able to set up so many rigs? Did you guys have to have an electrician come out? Aren't you overloading the circuits?
Many of us have an electrician add additional circuits if mining at a residence.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Garage / Residential Data Center Mining Cave Planning - Garage Grotto Part 1 :D
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on: May 10, 2017, 05:58:14 PM
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So revised plan . . .
I have ~13 ft width and 20 ft length asphalt patch
Drop 12x12 or so shed on said patch
Run fans <---exhaust [SHED] <--- intake / electric run, secure facility and done? 12x12 should give me ample room to run enough rigs to max out my power -- agreed? Thoughts / input?
Can anyone give me links to exact fans that would work for this setup, 3000 CFM?
Thank you for everyone helping here
Check out @yun9999's shed build here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1806061.0I don't see any reason to not copy it exactly. I would try to speak with him about it though, I'm sure he has already found ways to improve it. Those PDU's you posted would work fine. Just be aware of the number of outlets, and amp limit of the PDUs.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [Mining OS] SimpleMining.net - Easy to use GPU MINING Operating System
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on: May 10, 2017, 03:24:13 PM
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Yes, I have 7 plugged in with 6 working just fine at the moment, and I believe the lack of the 7th showing up is that I have not shorted out the second x16 slot - I am running old style risers from 2014. I hope to short the pins during lunch today and have 7 running! I'll get you the exact specs sometime today, work permitting please report if this is a HW or SW problem. I am interested in this as well. Same here. Have Z170a M5 boards, and I'd love to use smos!
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Garage / Residential Data Center Mining Cave Planning - Garage Grotto Part 1 :D
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on: May 10, 2017, 12:48:07 AM
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Your panel appears to have plenty of room in it. Those blank gray spaces without switches can handle additional circuits, so you would not need to add another entire panel. The electricians will tell you exactly what they can put in, but I see room for at least 100amps if not more. I think you could fit 4 240v 50A circuits if you move one smaller circuit to the opposite side of the box. Then they can install however many outlets you need. You could do something like 4 50A ciruits, each with its own outlet, and plug a 50A PDU into each outlet. Or twice the outlets/PDUs with PDUs rated at 30A. But again, talk it out with the electricians, I am not qualified for such work so don't follow my advice without asking a real professional! I also use EVGA PSUs which you can just plug into a 240v PDU. Some PSUs have 120/240v switches on the back (maybe only older models?). But your PSU should say on it somewhere something like "100v - 240v 50hz - 60hz". If it simply says "100v - 120v" you are out of luck. With that many rigs I would highly recommend getting some server PSUs to supply the bulk of the power anyways. Finksy sells entire packages that will make your life way easier. If he is out, pm me for additional sources. Phil's diagram for airflow would definitely be more efficient than what I suggested. Here is a diagram of my suggestion: http://imgur.com/a/AQW9xAgain, its not ideal in terms of airflow, but it may be more feasible than putting a hole in the back of the garage, and sucking air from the house. Not to mention it will be LOUD with the door to the inside of the house open. Also note that you have to have enough louvers to match the exaust fan, too few and it will be extra loud and wear on the fan motor. I do not know how much electricity your nvidia rigs need, but assuming you have everything running off 240v circuits and the full 200amps, then you can pull up to 240*200*0.8 = 38,400watts... so divide that by the peak power consumption of one of your rigs measured with a proper wall meter. While that could easily be 30+ rigs, you may run out of space/cooling capacity before electric.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Garage / Residential Data Center Mining Cave Planning - Garage Grotto Part 1 :D
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on: May 09, 2017, 02:57:50 AM
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Yeah if you're lucky you can find the server racks used for cheap, but I still opt for wire shelves. Home Depot and Wal-Mart sell similar brands for cheap with a 600lb rating per shelf. You could fit ten rigs on this: http://www.homedepot.com/p/HDX-48-in-W-x-72-in-H-x-18-in-D-Decorative-Wire-Chrome-Finish-Commercial-Shelving-Unit-6T60184872C/100655787For the electric, I would opt to add a 100amp (or two 50amp) circuits into your box at 240v. Or maybe swap some 120v circuits for 240v if the box does not have the room. It will be pretty cheap to have done since your box is in the garage and the electrician won't have to run wires a long distance/through walls. The 240v circuit will help with efficiency/your high-ish electric rate. I'd talk to @Finksy about some platinum server PSUs if you plan to have 5+rigs. Again, it'll help cut the hurt of the $0.14 electric. As for cooling, I'd personally put the rigs right in front of the door going to the outside. Exhaust fan on the door, you might be able to put a louver in place of the window on the door. Then I'd put louvers along the bottom of the garage door for intakes. Just make sure you have enough to match the power of your exhaust fan. If you do get up to ten rigs, I'd get a fan ~3,000CFM, but that's a serious shot in the dark. idk nvidia rigs, and idk virginia.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Garage / Residential Data Center Mining Cave Planning - Garage Grotto Part 1 :D
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on: May 09, 2017, 01:51:25 AM
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#1. You said you had a 200 amp panel, is that a panel dedicate for the rigs, or your whole house? If it's a dedicated panel for rigs, then its simply 200*240*0.8 = 38,400 watts, or half that for 120v. #2. You are gunna need an intake/outtake. Garage door is the obvious intake, using louvers. There are many examples around the forums. Definitely check out @yun9999's thread. I would turn the door to the outside (i don't see it in the pictures, but I believe you said one exists) into an exhaust. This would be easiest if it is a door you never have to use. You could mount a large fan in the top half of the doorway. What you'll need for fan size will be determined by how many rigs you have, and the ambient temp. Do you live in a hot area or no? That indented area may be fine for the time being. If you scaled enough I may worry that it is not close enough to the exhaust (although, again, i don't see the door, so i'm not sure). With 5 rigs i'm sure its fine. 3. The best racks for looks are definitely 42U server cabinets, but you'll pay up for them for sure. Metal wire shelving units that many miners use are much more cost effective, but are ugly and cable management can be difficult. I've also been told the server cabinets are better for cooling, I can't say from experience, but it would make sense to me. Phil, feel free to correct me on anything
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My decision on the two group buys of iBelink DM11g-10800mhs .
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on: May 03, 2017, 10:32:16 PM
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I appreciate Phil's input. However he didn't seem to include the following numbers
The 4200sol/s he calculated from the zec rig would make about $40usd per day at current profitability.
the ibelink, at just 10ghs would make like over about $270 per day at current profitability...
I understand the profitabilities change and especially over a 90 day period while waiting for shipping. I also understand the difficulty will go up a lot with the increased dash network hashrate.. Phil used a doubling in the network difficulty but lets say it tripled (can we actually calculate how high the difficulty and profitibilty will change?) thats still 270/3 = $90usd a day
he brought up other valid points like the risks involved but i just wanted to throw out these possible numbers
I'm now questioning whether i'm even interested in the preorder anymore... ***is it possible to calculate how much the difficulty and therefore the profitability of dash (at current dash/btc value) will be affected by the 3000 or so 10k+ ghs ibelink miners?***
I'm interested in anyone's input on this as well. I agree with Phil's math for sure, but what if you were able to extend that model to a year from now? The iBelink definitely seems more profitable, so the question is, given enough time, would it surpass total profit of Phil's zec rig? I'm not sure if anyone can predict that... Seems like a classic higher-risk higher-reward scenario. Very difficult to weigh the two.
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