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81  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Waktunya berpegangan erat erat on: December 16, 2023, 09:58:40 AM
Altcoin session juga sudah ditunggu banyak orang yang menginvestasikan duitnya di banyak keranjang. Ane juga sudah beli dikit-dikit coin dan token yang ada di top 50. Ya tidak banyak sih, dana paling juga antara 100 - 800 ribu. Berharapnya sih coin-coin yang ane invest itu bisa naik sampe 100x kayak tahun-tahun sebelumnya, kan lumayan profitnya. Tapi ya ane juga gak begitu berekspektasi harus jadi gitu. Yang penting duit itu dingin dan gak ane pakai untuk kebutuhan sehari-hari.
Altcoin pilihan yang paling realistis untuk kenaikan bisa 10x hingga 50x terutama setelah pasca bitcoin halving, pilihan dengan koin atau token top 50 besar setidaknya sedikit menjadi jaminan ke depan koin tersebut tidak akan mengalami penurunan secara drastis. Investasi jangka panjang di bitcoin maupun di altcoin memang harus benar-benar menggunakan dana dingin dan jangan pernah menggunakan dana utama untuk kebutuhan atau dana saving, saat posisi kejebak floating tidak terlalu membebani karena kita sudah memiliki manajemen keuangan tersendiri. Kalau saya sudah mulai cici di altcoin yang saya anggap potensial semisal matic, LTC, BNB namun lebih mengutamakan koin yang top market standings dan harga masih terjangkau.
82  Economy / Economics / Re: Food for thought on: December 15, 2023, 06:50:11 PM
There are most appropriate recommendation, especially four us still related to work in government agencies, existing regulations will definitely change with changes over time in the institutions that oversee our work possible that we could lose our jobs in government agencies. Before facing bad thing in the future how potential we are sacking from government agencies need to prepare side or small business scale how to protect and supported with our financial in the future. Right now, relying on one business as your main income is not enough, with inflation increasing quite high every year and prices of basic necessities continuing to increase significantly, we really need side or additional jobs to get income apart from the main job in government agencies.

Its doesn't just apply for people working in government agency but for all people need to back their business with have another or side job for getting additional income.
83  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 15, 2023, 04:03:21 PM
Milan started the season in a super form but after a while they started declining in performance and this happened after Inter won them. Italian league is not like EPL that one club will win the league straight three times. The competition there is very high and any club can win the league, it all depends on which club is strong that season. I believe that it is time for Inter to win the league as they haven't won it recently and I believe that has been their target for the season. However,  Juventus is a threat to them and if they lose focus on the league, it can be snatched from them by Juventus who are currently in a strong form.

Since last four season after Juventus loss dominance for winning domestic league, Serie A become most interested domestic league with very tight attention and competition made difference winner teams every season. Since Juventus won domestic league season 2019/20 then have Inter, Milan and last season Napoli success make different winner teams for Serie A. Its seems excited depend with Premier League dominance by Manchester City almost last five years although many people claimed how high attention with Premier League.
Current position, likely will have difference winning teams in this season after Napoli dropped from top fourth standings and right now have Inter and Juventus as strong candidate teams become the winner of Serie A.
84  Economy / Economics / Re: Boycotting iSrAEl's product? think again. on: December 15, 2023, 03:30:03 PM
This can be seen from many media today so that it is normal for the majority of the Muslim and non-Muslim population to boycott products that support Israel. But what we need to find out now is what the actual condition of Israel is at the moment because many Israelis living in Tel Aviv have left the city after repeated Hamas attacks fell there.

And in general, there are many western media who deliberately cover up the current condition of the state of Israel in order to make it appear that they are still strong enough to survive. Even though there are many losses experienced by Israel through war and boycotting products that support it, as well as the participation of the Yemeni Houthis in helping Palestine via the Red Sea route in blocking every ship carrying logistics for Israel.
Boycotting Israel product not only followed by the majority of the Muslim population but also by non-Muslims, I think boycotting is not only about what majority of Palestine religion as Muslim but also with human right how brutal invasion did by Israel and killed many Palestine person from children until old people. I can't believable with some medias have bad report their news only take care what Hamas did for Israel citizen but they blame what did by Israel soldier killed many Palestine kids.

The invasion have stop as soon possibility and both side not get any victim yet in the future, I think enough how many people have been pass away and they have loss with their home. For the near moment I wish both side have invasion conflict could get freedom and they have proposed a ceasefire how to protect the citizen from bad happening again.
85  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Finally I did it (I am happy to join). on: December 15, 2023, 08:57:23 AM
I'm also happy when seeing some one have invested in Bitcoin and get first experienced how excited become investor of bitcoin, congrats OP for the first time you invested in bitcoin and I think is huge amount because my first investing under $50. You have smart ideas when profitable earn from business use for accumulating in bitcoin will give an opportunity with much profitable earn the future how bitcoin price keep increasing up in the future.
Both your business as bolt business and investing will be passive income every time, you can comparison with the early month invested in bitcoin and current price have been up maybe you earned few percent profitable than hold money in the bank without get benefit with increasing values yet.
86  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Apa Kripto Itu Kejam? on: December 15, 2023, 08:14:39 AM
Faktanya sekarang ini banyak yang bunuh-bunuhan karena fiat, kalau mau dibandingkan justru lebih banyak mudhorat-nya itu fiat karena ribut masalah duit yang dipegang sehari-hari. Soalnya kan tuh duit bentuknya real, kelihatan banget tuh di dompet kita kalau kita itu banyak uang, jadinya siapa pun yang melihat jadi timbul niat jahat untuk memiliki. Beda sama crypto, sebanyak apa pun itu, kalau pemiliknya pandai dan tidak nampilin dia punya crypto pasti aman, dibawa kemana pun kalau nyimpen di hardware wallet, aman, ya kayak kita bawa flashdisk biasa.

Potensi terjadinya kriminal jauh lebih besar karena mata uang fiat bukan mata uang bitcoin, secara umum tidak semua pelaku kriminal sudah paham tentang bitcoin namun mereka pasti tau tentang masalah uang. Paling sederhana saat kita melakukan penarikan uang di Bank dalam jumlah sedikit besar pasti akan dicurigai dan resiko terjadi pencurian sangat besar dibanding dengan uang yang kita miliki dan simpan di bitcoin wallet sangat sedikit mengetahuinya. Saya rasa justru fiat lebih kejam daripada krypto karena bisa menimbulkan dan memberikan kesempatan lebih besar kepada pelaku kriminal. Niat jahat mereka sangat mudah bergejolak saat melihat seseorang memiliki uang dalam jumlah yang banyak dibandingkan mereka yang memiliki assets bitcoin.
87  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: December 14, 2023, 02:06:39 PM
In the SPL's provisional top scorers list this season, Cristiano Ronaldo is the leading scorer with 16 goals to his name, followed by Aleksandar Mitrović with 14, Georges-Kévin N'Koudou with 13 and Talisca with 10. There are 2 Al Nassr players who can be productive this season and unfortunately they are not accompanied by a strong defense so they still have some problems when facing clubs that have a good front line.

Cristiano Ronaldo is also on the list of top assist scorers with 8 assists, the same number as Alvaro Medran. With his age, it is a great achievement that he can show and it is extraordinary.
Al Hilal and Al Nassr are top Saudi Pro League teams success scored many goals than other teams, Al Hilal on the first standings position awhile have scored 48 goals with their striker Aleksandar Mitrović with 14 goals and Malcon scored 9 goals. The same impressive performance with Al Nassr have scored 43 goals in domestic league with Cristiano Ronaldo have 16 goals and Talisca with 10 goals contribution.
Cristiano Ronaldo is the top perform striker in Saudi Pro League teams with his dominance as top scorer awhile beside he has made 8 assists during his age over 38 years old. Have second half season with Saudi Pro League and Al Nassr will play 18 matches left seems Cristiano Ronaldo will break more than 30 goals in this season, its my speculation and optimistic with Ronaldo can make many goals in this season.
88  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Young student teaching his classmates about Bitcoin on: December 14, 2023, 08:01:43 AM
I have a child that I want to raise from an early age to experience Bitcoin and cryptocurrency.Now that he is only 6 years old I think he has enough time to learn.

Excited with your motivation want to teach your children with bitcoin how to regeneration in the future bitcoin is very important investment assets but do you think your children 6 years old are ready for accepting about bitcoin education? I think too early educate children still 6 years old are age for them keep playing and communicating with their friend. Idea age for teaching our children with bitcoin I think above 13 years old after passing junior high school and they have been on senior high school.
Its my opinion only because I know how children get pressure from their parent exactly have to be first number in school and not looking the children mentality exactly with their age is moment keep enjoying life without pressure yet from parent.
89  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will we see repeat of 2017 or new trend? on: December 14, 2023, 07:36:17 AM
Bitcoin have difference condition from 2017 with situation right not, have many bigger companies around the world adopted bitcoin as legal payment currency and right now have El Savador allowed bitcoin as payment tender. I think last several season Bitcoin not huge progress and still use as commodity assets not adopting for payment currency and right now Bitcoin have good movement not only with price but advantage of bitcoin adopted and use for daily day. Pattern of bitcoin price have any similar with 2017 but I don't sure how bitcoin success becoming top large digital currency and adopted by many companies as bigger revolution of bitcoin.

But one one side with bitcoin against still the same where in 2017 many bad news publishing by community dislike with bitcoin and still the same until right now they keep trying make FUD with bitcoin.
90  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: December 14, 2023, 04:45:00 AM
It will be even great if messi will able to go to the saudi pro league. I have seen that many people are willing to see messi to compete with ronaldo again. It is saddened me that messi was avoiding to go to the saudi pro league due to the his wife.
What i can take from messi's interview if he was willing to join in saudi pro league but his wife has been preventing. I hope i can see messi play in saudi pro league someday.

Having messi and ronaldo in the same league will being back the old memories owned by la liga. We have seen that how big the hype owned by la liga.
Saudi pro league needs to approach him once again. Messi is good but not for his choice to join in MLS
Cristiano Ronaldo have been 38 years old and seems he has chance for playing with Al-Nassr about two until three years later, still have chance waiting for Lionel Messi will play for Saudi Arabia club and excited to see both top players in the world in the same competition Saudi Pro League. Seems difficult with Lionel Messi have contract left with Inter Miami and excited offering there to see he will play in Saudi Pro League, but not easy for signing Cristiano Ronaldo by MLS League because high offer payment salary from Al Nassr.

Saudi Pro League will get more traffic or fans in the future if can bring Lionel Messi there, actually they have much money and promoting way to be host of World Cup 2034 and completed achievement if can sign Lionel Messi for playing with Saudi Pro League team.
91  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Setiap harga beli Bitcoin selalu menguntungkan on: December 14, 2023, 01:56:58 AM
Semua trader pernah di posisi seperti OP saat ragu untuk buy buck bitcoin padahal posisi sangat menguntungkan karena harga bitcoin lagi turun, namun pesimis dan sedikit ragu karena akan ada potensi ke depan bitcoin akan turun lebih murah lagi menjadi pertimbangan untuk menunda dan akhirnya bitcoin justru berubah arah naik ke harga lebih tinggi. Pernah ada keinginan untuk membeli bitcoin saat harga turun cukup drastis di bawah $20k namun karena ragu dan takut bitcoin bisa turun lagi justru menjadi bomerang karena bitcoin naik drastis sampai saat ini menyentuh harga $42k.
Ke depan harus ada komitmen yang paling tinggi jika ingin membeli bitcoin, tidak perlu ragu dan takut apalagi saat mendapatkan posisi harga bitcoin sedang koreksi karena bisa menjadi momentum ke depan harga bitcoin akan naik jauh lebih tinggi.
92  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you still use Banks ? on: December 13, 2023, 04:22:39 PM
Are you kidding your question? Bank is most important part in our life and I don't sure you can purchase or investing in bitcoin without Bank helped, Bank is most important part of bitcoin and I sure although near in the future Bitcoin become legal transaction we still need bank for purchasing bitcoin or withdrawing assets trough to be fiat trough Bank. Bitcoin still not supported as legal payment transaction exactly in my country bitcoin available for assets commodity only and not allowed use bitcoin for transaction payment. I need Bank as third place for withdrawing my bitcoin to be fiat assets and get Bank service for cash out my paper money.
Many traditional market and some of them not popular with bitcoin, Bank can't delist from our transaction kinds however bitcoin have advantage but bank still use for many kinds of transaction.
93  Economy / Speculation / Re: What did you think will happen to Bitcoin before January? on: December 13, 2023, 03:08:21 PM
Yesterday could be latest correction for bitcoin before raising above $50k and seems next year bitcoin will raise to higher price, after raising $44k bitcoin get enough correction until dropped to $40k but potential before January price will raise around $50k. Usually correction is natural with bitcoin after raising higher price and keep stable for several weeks, but not get bigger effort with this time correction and bitcoin success return to higher price again few days later after correction moment.

Probably after correction will have moment for bitcoin raise more than latest higher price, seems before end this year bitcoin get chance with new higher price for 2023 year around $50k to $55k if not get bad news close with Christmas day.
94  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [INFO] Signature Campaign [Hanya Pembayaran Bitcoin]| Ter-Update !!! on: December 13, 2023, 12:54:19 PM
GOOD NEWS Untuk Anggota yang udah bergabung di kampanye Signature Coinomize.

@Julerz12 mengatakan bahwa kampanye akan di anjutkan di forum Altcointalks setelah 31 Desember.
Tapi untuk pembayaran per pos, masih menunggu keputusan dari pihak Coinomize.
Tapi secara resmi kampanye singature akan tetap di lanjutkan.

Good news,

The Coinomize team has confirmed that we are continuing the signature campaign on Altcointalks.
As for the rates per post, that is yet to be decided. The official launch will be on Dec. 31st.  Wink
To join the discussion about their service, you can visit their official Altcointalks thread here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=312735
Kabar bagus, akhirnya Coinomize menjadi signature service kedua yang dibuka diforum altcointalk sebelumnya ada Mixero.

Untuk peserta di forum altcointalk apakah akan ada perubahan secara total atau tetap mempertahankan user yang telah bergabung terlebih dahulu di forum bitcointalk, masih ada beberapa minggu sebelum campaign dimulai dan harapan saya bisa ikut berpatisipasi juga di forum altcointalk.
Mudah-mudahan saja Julerz12 memiliki konsep yang sama dengan user yang sudah bergabung di forum bitcointalk sebelumnya menjadi prioritas utama meskipun banyak dari mereka akun hasil teleportasi.
95  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 13, 2023, 03:03:10 AM
Following last night's matches, there were no surprises in Group A. Despite securing the top spot and a ticket to the next round, Bayern fielded a strong lineup. Although Varane returned, Maguire's injury at the end of the first half led to Manchester United's defeat against Bayern at home, officially ending their Champions League journey. Copenhagen, along with Bayern, advanced to the next round in Group A after defeating Galatasaray.
Its not really surprised with Manchester United as first premier league teams failed reach knock out round, not only drop out from Champion League but also United will not play on Europe League due finished on bottom position standings in Group A. Finally Copenhagen qualify to next round as runner up standing behind Bayern Munich as the top standings.

Real Madrid completed an impressive group stage with all wins. They fielded a strong lineup in the last match, securing a 3-2 victory in the final minutes, advancing to the next round along with Napoli.
Real Madrid completed all winning matches in Champion League group stage, perfect achievement with 18 points and the only one teams participants in Champion League not loss points yet and Madrid has 100% winning ratio. Last nigh match, Madrid played full team and Carlo Ancelotti use their all main squad for this match, although have been qualified Madrid won't loss their points and winning 3-2 made Madrid possibility face teams on runner up standing other group.
96  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Panduan untuk Melakukan Riset dan Analisis Narrative pada Koin Cryptocurrency on: December 12, 2023, 12:47:32 PM
3. Tinjau Tim Pengembang:

- Pahami latar belakang dan pengalaman tim pengembang.
- Tinjau riwayat pekerjaan mereka di proyek-proyek kripto sebelumnya.

Latar belakang tim pengembang dan tim penasihat dalam sebuah proyek altcoin sangat penting dan bisa menentukan arah koin tersebut bakal bertahan berapa lama dan kenaikan harga sejauh mana. Selama ini banyak sekali tim pengembang yang cukup berpengalaman berada pada koin yang saat ini masih bertahan di top ranking coinmarketcap dan sukses berada di harga tinggi dalam jangka yang cukup lama. Dalam hal tim pengembang kita bisa meninjau reputasi dan pengalaman mereke sebelumnya baik pada koin yang sudah berhasil atau pada koin yang hanya popular sesaat.  
Semua detail pengembang bisa menjadi referensi untuk menentukan apakah koin yang akan kita investasi sangat berpotensi di masa akan datang justru bisa tidak ada pergerakan atau keuntungan yang signifisikan.
97  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 12, 2023, 11:14:04 AM
Man U and Bayern Munich lost their last games in the domestic leagues with big scores... By the way both results surprised me a lot, especially Bayern, who are in first place in the group... They don't need a win now and even if they lose, they will remain in first place... I think it will be an interesting match...
Bayern Munich make us surprised loss their last games after defeating by Frankfurt with bigger score 1-5, its first time Bayern Munich conceded 5 goals in domestic league. The same loss result on last match with Manchester United and loss from Bournemouth when playing home.
Both losses teams will face tonight on last Champion League match but Bayern Munich is not really important match what ever match result loss, draw or win they are keep managing top standings. But crucial for Manchester United must win against Bayern Munich if want get chance qualify to Europe League or get one position of 16 round if Galatasaray's match against Copenhagen get draw result.
98  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin at its ATH of 2023 so far on: December 12, 2023, 06:30:43 AM
Indeed many bad news in 2023 exactly SEC against many community of cryptocurrency but glad to see bitcoin success raised to most highest price this season until $44,000 depending on most lowest price $16,000. Overally Bitcoin was able to rise almost 120% in one year since the crash at the beginning of the year and the price of Bitcoin fell quite drastically to $16,000.
Have many days left before 2023 ended and we are seeing how potential of Bitcoin price will make new ATH for this year up to $50,000 or the latest highest price on $44,000.

Its good movement for bitcoin in one year have many bad news or FUD and hope upcoming next year and halving edition will make bitcoin can up more drastically like this years, wish bitcoin before or after halving can make new ATH record price history and raise to $100,000.
99  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: best way to start on: December 12, 2023, 04:39:13 AM
First don't trust any one else about created wallet and secure by your self with all data seed phrase, I know you faced difficult with creating bitcoin wallet but if your age not limited for getting ID card and can't verify exchange account you must help your parent and use their ID to verify exchange account.
I think easy for creating bitcoin wallet address right now and you can see many kinds guide on Youtube channel and check them step by step regarding not secure when asking the other exactly know with your seed phrase data.
Not bad ideas use your other wallet for recovery if your trusted person have bad planning in the future, we can't predict some one in the future keep trust or not exactly you know him as online or offline.
100  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 12, 2023, 03:56:11 AM
Manchester United is not performing well this season because there are a number of problems within Erik Ten Hak's squad which are affecting them in facing the season's matches in the Premier League and Champions League. So far, Manchester United have only collected one win in the group and only one match remains in the preliminary round. Facing Bayern Munich's much better strength, Manchester United's chances of qualifying for the round of 16 are quite small.
Manchester United not performing well in Champion League and they will play last match against Bayern Munich as life and die match, with internal problem about Erik ten Hag must sack or not and Manchester United on crucial position will make difficult for United will get one place for next round? Manchester United chance qualifying to round of 16 are quite small because need waiting result match between Copenhagen vs Galatasaray. If can't qualify on 16 round in Champion League, Manchester United must win against Bayern Munich to secure their position in Europe League competition.

Current last several Champion League matches, I think Manchester United vs Bayern Munich and Copenhagen vs Galatasaray is most excited match tonight and interested to know who will eliminated from Champion League.
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