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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: Matchpool - Creating Human Connections on: April 19, 2017, 08:48:16 PM
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Are you the kind of person that'd pay first for something under the premise that somebody will send you something in the future?

Erm… well, you invested in an ICO, sooooooo… *cough*

Seriously though, did you ask Liam for an escrow? It is absolutely legitimate to ask for an escrow, no matter who the other person is, but I think this isn't Matchpools problem anymore.

Come'on dude.. theres a difference between investing in an ICO and the way Liam is trying to re-buy our tokens. To begin with, the ICO was like a Smart Contract, where our tokens were sent back to us as soon as we sent our Ether.

But anyways, I did e-mail him a couple of days ago offering different alternatives like using escrow or using Oasisdex. He hasn't replied yet. I don't know if he just ignored me or haven't seen the message yet.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: Matchpool - Creating Human Connections on: April 19, 2017, 03:53:54 PM
I spoke today with a Community Manager from Matchpool (Arnaud Gaboury) and this is what he had to said about the "Refund Option":

"that is in fact a private agreement between one buyer and one seller and this agreement does not involve Matchpool"

Also, according to Ram Avissar (CM)

"AGAIN WE NEVER OFFERED A REFUND, we simply matched a seller with potential buyer"

Mendax, the following is taken from our announcement regarding the resale option you are referring to:



Please show me when we ever promised to refund you? Also, please point out 1 ICO ever to exist that did such thing?

You spam my entire Slack channel with abusive remarks stating among other BS that I work for you since you paid me... now you are taking our mature responses to your smart ass comments, out of context to prove your point...

I have one suggestion for you and that is GROW A PAIR, this field is clearly not for as you can't stand the hit. I'll advise you to buy some government bonds or something because obviously you are not dealing well with the Alt's pressure.

I'll make you a gustier for karma and try to find you another buyer so we will stop hearing from you. PM me the amount you contributed and I'll get back to you.

You're right. ICO's do not usually offer refunds. However, Matchpool was accused by their own CTO of being scammers a couple of days after the ICO finished. I'm not saying the claims are true or false. But the fact is that your own CTO accused you of 'shady administration'.

In the picture you posted, we can see that Matchpool is promoting/advertising a 'buyer of GUP's'. When I emailed Liam (the buyer) he asked me to send my GUP first, and he claims that he will send me my ETH after 1 business day. Is not that I think Liam is a scammer. Is just that the transaction should be conducted in such a way that we don't have to trust each other i.e. escrow, smart contract, etc.

Say Liam ends up stealing my money, will Matchpool be held responsible? Of course not. But you did promote this guy. The same guy that has no information online other than a webpage under construction and a twitter account.

You guys are building a decentralized application and cannot even think of a way to redeem investors through a transaction where parties don't need to trust each other?

But anyways... I'll PM you right now and I hope I can be refunded. I just hope you don't expect me to send my GUP first as with Liam's case. Again, it's gotta be a secure transaction.

Man you are ridiculous!! do you realize that the fund you are ssugesting is going to steal your money is one of the biggest crypto funds in the world? one that participated in dozen of ICOs??

you take the side of a lousy dev who tried to sink this ship, the team had to put all aside and find you a solution, you are accusing the solution they gave you as scammer and you do not understand why they do not respond to you?? What are you smoking?Huh?


 

I made it clear on my post that I'm not accusing anyone of being a scammer. I'm just saying that I don't want to trust my buyer. Is not that difficult to set up an escrow service so that he can buy my tokens. Is better for both of us.

Are you the kind of person that'd pay first for something under the premise that somebody will send you something in the future?
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: Matchpool - Creating Human Connections on: April 19, 2017, 03:36:32 PM
I spoke today with a Community Manager from Matchpool (Arnaud Gaboury) and this is what he had to said about the "Refund Option":

"that is in fact a private agreement between one buyer and one seller and this agreement does not involve Matchpool"

Also, according to Ram Avissar (CM)

"AGAIN WE NEVER OFFERED A REFUND, we simply matched a seller with potential buyer"

Mendax, the following is taken from our announcement regarding the resale option you are referring to:



Please show me when we ever promised to refund you? Also, please point out 1 ICO ever to exist that did such thing?

You spam my entire Slack channel with abusive remarks stating among other BS that I work for you since you paid me... now you are taking our mature responses to your smart ass comments, out of context to prove your point...

I have one suggestion for you and that is GROW A PAIR, this field is clearly not for as you can't stand the hit. I'll advise you to buy some government bonds or something because obviously you are not dealing well with the Alt's pressure.

I'll make you a gustier for karma and try to find you another buyer so we will stop hearing from you. PM me the amount you contributed and I'll get back to you.

You're right. ICO's do not usually offer refunds. However, Matchpool was accused by their own CTO of being scammers a couple of days after the ICO finished. I'm not saying the claims are true or false. But the fact is that your own CTO accused you of 'shady administration'.

In the picture you posted, we can see that Matchpool is promoting/advertising a 'buyer of GUP's'. When I emailed Liam (the buyer) he asked me to send my GUP first, and he claims that he will send me my ETH after 1 business day. Is not that I think Liam is a scammer. Is just that the transaction should be conducted in such a way that we don't have to trust each other i.e. escrow, smart contract, etc.

Say Liam ends up stealing my money, will Matchpool be held responsible? Of course not. But you did promote this guy. The same guy that has no information online other than a webpage under construction and a twitter account.

You guys are building a decentralized application and cannot even think of a way to redeem investors through a transaction where parties don't need to trust each other?

But anyways... I'll PM you right now and I hope I can be refunded. I just hope you don't expect me to send my GUP first as with Liam's case. Again, it's gotta be a secure transaction.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: Matchpool - Creating Human Connections on: April 19, 2017, 02:36:34 PM
I spoke today with a Community Manager from Matchpool (Arnaud Gaboury) and this is what he had to said about the "Refund Option":

"that is in fact a private agreement between one buyer and one seller and this agreement does not involve Matchpool"

Also, according to Ram Avissar (CM)

"AGAIN WE NEVER OFFERED A REFUND, we simply matched a seller with potential buyer"
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: Matchpool - Creating Human Connections on: April 18, 2017, 05:45:00 PM
You can clearly see that the way Matchpool has been handling things has been terrible. This only raises red flags and exposes the inability of Matchpool's team to deliver anything.

They claim to be offering a Matchpool Refund, but once you send an e-mail to the address provided, this is what you get from "Liam":
"On the 30th of April, please send your Guppies to my Ether account below. I will then send you your Ether back within one working day. "

Are you kidding me?.. This is how you will deal with the refund?.. Who the hell is this Liam kid and how do I know I won't be scammed twice by you guys?.. Will Matchpool be held accountable if Liam does not deliver the ETH as promised?
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