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1  Other / Politics & Society / Re: OneCoin taking me to court, I have to withdraw my statements on: May 01, 2017, 12:49:03 AM
Normal next step would be a countersuit.

1) Onecoin has caused you social anxiety and undue stress by trying to limit your free speech through harassment. Approximate damage 800,000 Nørway pesøs.

2) Law firm has abused their professional license and failed to do due diligence on their client. Hence they are legally responsible for the harm they cause to you, re undue stress, frivolous lawsuit etc. Approximate damage 3,200,000 Norway pesøs.

Contact Dewey Dickem & Howe, Law Associates for a consultation.
2  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Israel's current existence ironic? on: April 30, 2017, 05:24:50 PM
Who would not say anything, but the Jews know how to live and build their country. Despite years of conflict with their neighbors, they are like outcasts all over the world and yet their standard of living is much better than in many countries around the world.

One of the big lies is that the Great Powers created the nation state of Israel. The United Nations did with a two thirds majority vote. The Arab nations were united in opposition.

Even though the proposal included steps for the creation of a Palestinian state, that didn't matter. They couldn't stand the idea of a Jewish state. It's not a matter of equal for the two sides, they have to have it all and have the Jews have nothing. That's the way they were, and that's the way they are.

Hence a Palestinian "leader," Yassir Arafat, with over 400 terrorist bombings and atrocities to his credit. Hence today, 10% of the Palestinian Authority toward terrorist support. Hence today, massive propaganda, including the initial premises of this thread.



The reality is

1) Jews paid a huge price in WWII, then some Jews, the Zionists, capitalized on the price other Jews had paid, by using the holocaust to maneuver their way to a political state.

2) Jews were heavily discriminated against in Europe pre WWII. Nobody questions that. Europe was not safe for Jews. Some people can argue that "Jews did this" or "Jews did that", but truthfully Judaism is a developed tradition with an acceptable morality so broad criticism of Jews to justify their restriction in a society is not valid unless the same restrictions apply to others. The evidence is more that Jews, like other groups that integrate, must first open themselves to projection from the first inhabitants, they must first be the shadow or villain, before they can incorporate.

3) Nonsense about "their were no people in Palestine pre zionist" or "there were no Palestinians" does not work in favor of that incorporation. It creates a false concept that is harmful not only to Jews but to others. Similarly skewed nonsense like your reference to '400 terrorist bombings' are not wise.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Namecoin: DNS and ICANN solution on: April 30, 2017, 03:56:30 PM
Because many people seem to be misinterpreting Namecoin's role, I'll quote the source:
Quote
The ICANN community appears to be reasonably accepting of Namecoin’s role as an alternative to DNS; Namecoin makes different tradeoffs from DNS, is therefore likely to be optimal for a different userbase, and can co-exist with DNS in its current state.
https://namecoin.org/2017/04/17/icann-58-summary.html

This means that ICANN recognizes Namecoin as an alternative and doesn't want to interfere. The developers would like to avoid a "collision" that'd cause .bit ending up becoming an ICANN TLD.

Honestly, and without offense, some people seem to be misinterpreting icann's role.

edit to add
After I posted that I noticed another post I had made in a moderated thread was deleted, and my reaction is to simply discredit the person trying to control the conversation through 'moderation' of other peoples' comments.

Speech, conversation, etc can be very useful, it has importance. But when it is hijacked by one special interest then it becomes trivial. A person is free to surf through icann's world wide web. They can find a lot of good sites and a lot of bad sites. The one thing though they can count on, is that any sites that offend major commercial interests in the United States will be taken down by icann. Is that really what the internet should be about?
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Namecoin: DNS and ICANN solution on: April 29, 2017, 01:23:52 AM
Ok, TLDs might not be truly free (as in freedom), but where does namecoin fit into the picture? Is there any correlation to be made between what you're asserting and OP's post?

If you mean when Alex said "Namecoin is the first fork..." yes.

Bitcoin lets a person create a currency that anybody can adopt or ignore or anything else they want. So far the only option was to use highly liquid currencies that were created by governments. If you chose to not use the local currency you would be attacked by legal predators trying to enforce the use of 'their' money, i.e., the money of their 'employer'.

Likewise Namecoin. So far, to make a public page that is visible to millions of people, a website, you must act through an entity that is forced to follow the short term wishes of people with political interests, i.e., icann, or you can make a site through tor, which caters more to criminal activity and at any rate would not be safe for political sites, despite what people think. Namecoin lets you register a domain that is kept not at the pleasure of somebody with political motives, but by a consensus that involves users of the coin.

So with Namecoin, and any similar coin that might be created in the future, you can register a website that only you are responsible for and have power over. The next step, decentralized hosting, has a lot of people ready, once the domain issue is free. Small internets can be created in a way that is safe from interference, the question is how to link them, so anybody can easily go to any internet through any browser.

...

Right now there are a lot of latecomers to the crypto party who have new solutions, which almost always involve an ico, a premine, or some other bullshit. Those coins will not last. Namecoin will.

Quote from: aaron swartz link=https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/domain-name-seizures-329/
FOIA REQUEST: Expedited processing requested

To Whom It May Concern:

This is a request under the Freedom of Information Act. I hereby request the following records:

Any records related to domain name seizures, including those conduced by DHS and ICE, including the domain names...

...

...

I also request that, if appropriate, fees be waived as I believe this request is in the public interest. The requested documents will be made available to the general public free of charge as part of the public information service at MuckRock.com, processed by a representative of the news media/press and is made in the process of news gathering and not for commercial usage.

In the event that fees cannot be waived, I would be grateful if you would inform me of the total charges in advance of fulfilling my request if they are in excess of $50. I hereby agree to pay fees up to $50. I would prefer the request filled electronically, by e-mail attachment if available or CD-ROM if not.

Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation in this matter. I look forward to receiving your response to this request within 20 business days, as the statute requires.

Sincerely,

Aaron Swartz

Quote from: aaron swartz link=https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/domain-name-seizures-329/



I'd like to resubmit my request to request, specifically:

- Any guidelines or protocols for ICE agents about the procedures for seizing domains
- Any communications between ICE and other government agencies with regard to the seized domains
- Any communications between ICE and intellectual property owners requesting domains be seized or discussing seized domains
- Any court filings requesting authorization to seize domains
- Any internal emails mentioning the seized sites
- Any legal memos mentioning the seized sites



https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/02/senator-us-domain-name-seizures-alarmingly-unprecedented/

https://torrentfreak.com/u-s-government-shuts-down-music-sharing-sites-141022/

https://torrentfreak.com/us-copyright-law-doesnt-apply-worldwidedvd-ripper-tells-court-140424/

https://torrentfreak.com/uk-seize-popular-music-blog-arrest-operators-and-threaten-readers-120214/

https://www.indolering.com/chilling-effects-domain-names

https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/guidance-domain-seizures-07mar12-en.pdf

edit to add
I don't use torrent sites, I don't buy drugs online or anywhere else, I don't support any crimes etc. The fact is though that if you have a lot of money you can tell law enforcement what to consider as a crime. The entertainment industry invested heavily in purchasing U.S. law enforcement, so they, the industry, now control that aspect of the internet. Tomorrow some billionaire with some other odd belief may be deciding what a crime is.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [announce] Namecoin - a distributed naming system based on Bitcoin on: April 29, 2017, 12:53:08 AM
I created a Slack group if anyone is interested in joining and making discussion: namecoin-group.slack.com

tsoloalex@gmail.com send me an invite!

Guys IRC is not good. Slack keeps record of the conversations...

I haven't had much time to look cuz I'm already busy with Decred. But I've some free time and will be glad to help growing the namecoin community. Nobody is expecting Namecoin to rally...

Some trader views on Namecoin

"We cannot compare namecoin with decred. Decred is magnitudes better in its voting system and has a really active developing team as opposed to Namecoin. I can see Namecoin rally in about 2-3 months, but nothing crazy like Decred, unless I am missing something in this puzzle..."

You are missing something. lol

Namecoin is the highest quality altcoin, built on a solid longterm foundation, clean as a whistle. It will have people building on it a thousand years from now, even if it is worth a penny.

Decred has some sort of novel ideas, but nothing groundbreaking. It only stands out for the massive payoff it is producing for a few people, before it disappears, probably within a year or two.

A lot of new people come to something and they look at a few superficial things and are sure they know what's under the hood.

Coins you should actually look under the hood and see what they are about. Namecoin has an honest purpose. Some people will make money with it, some will lose money, but after the money is spent something important remains. Namecoin is probably the best 'silver' to bitcoin's 'gold', if you research it a bit. 
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Namecoin: DNS and ICANN solution on: April 28, 2017, 03:00:26 AM
Namecoin is one of the forgotten technologies that failed to latch onto bitcoin's success. A revival would need to be something really innovative but likely wouldn't come from ICANN. They might have hinted that they wouldn't interfere but such an org couldn't get involved with the promotion of a single crypto.

ICANN  is an organization that decides whether you can use a particular domain, and of course they are ultimately forced to cede to the wishes of more powerful organizations, like governments, in various matters.

Namecoin is a process that allows any individual to use any available domain within its realm, without asking permission and without worrying about whether a government will seize their domain if they speak offensively regarding the interests of people who profit from a specific government.

'Reviving' seems like it should only need making .bit domains completely useable as .com .net .org etc. When I type a .bit address into my browser nothing happens. It appends 'www' automatically then says 'server not found'. It would be necessary to visit icann with a suitcase full of cash and some lawyers, and convince them to 'normalize' the .bit extension I guess. If it ever happens that .bit registered through Namecoin is accessible to everybody without having to load a blockchain or even know what Namecoin is, the way you can use a .org without knowing what icann is, Namecoin will be significant. It will change politics in many countries and more. 
I'm not sure is cooperating with ICANN would be that compatible with cryptocurrenty ethics. The fact that namecoin is a peer to peer currency promotes decentralization while ICANN is an organization that centrally manages procedures behind domain approvals. I don't know how namecoin would benefit from making .bit a tld.

It'd benefit "bigly" and I mean it: A really major change. First, most users are not going to install an extension to be able to access .bit domains. It means, for now, people are not going to use .bit domains. Remember that domains are not "free" and namecoin domains are the closest to free as possible. So if browsers could access .bit domains, I'm pretty sure thousands or maybe hundreds of thousands of people will start using them.
People would start using the TLD, not necessarily Namecoin though. I don't see the necessity for a p2p currency involved if .bit became a regular TLD. Best hope for a decentralized system would be for that to actually NOT happen.

The 'currency' is not the issue.

Many people are not aware of current restrictions on the internet, some people are aware.

If you register a domain you keep that domain only at the pleasure of your government, and sometimes even foreign governments.

There have been lots of examples, very few have gotten publicity. A few years ago the U.S. government shut down some European tourist companies for competitive reasons by revoking their websites through icann, as I recall. At the time a lot of people were shocked. Today not, because you probably will not be able to find any mention of that incident online without searching a long time.

Tor is often considered a 'free speech' internet where you cannot be censored. But the truth is that there has been a lot of evidence that tor is one big censorship honeypot, in fact fully cracked from the start.

Very few people support using websites to sell drugs, hire hitmen, promote child pornography, etc. But a lot of people, generally people of little political power, support using websites to protest at a safe distance from dangerous entities. However those dangerous entities will use 'drugs, violence, predation' websites as an excuse to limit politically threatening websites.

What icann might be able to do, is provide the infrastructure to connect .bit with their internet.

You can use tor onions and imagine that "smart people are protecting your anonymity", or you can use a .bit like product and protect it yourself.

Young people should be smart and learn from history.

7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [announce] Namecoin - a distributed naming system based on Bitcoin on: April 27, 2017, 12:52:39 AM
Can someone help me to get along with a dev in the next 24 hours?


You posted some links but it seems you didn't spend much time at any of them:
https://namecoin.org/resources/chat/

If you not a dev yourself with something tangible to contribute then you may be just wasting your & their time.



He does not have to be a dev. He has offered to start a 'marketing' aspect of Namecoin, which obviously it doesn't have. If he has ideas that popularize the idea of decentralizing the internet, that is good.

Only problem some people might have is that 'marketing' often  means hyping and pushing. Namecoin offers something real, not too many people know about it. So long as somebody isn't mixing it with cocaine or hiring a televangelist to promote it, publicity is good.

He just hasn't said what his ideas or plans might be, but whatever they are, they are more than what most of us are doing, and that's something.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: April 26, 2017, 10:48:33 PM
Over 6700 twitter followers who's in charge of twitter we should hand control of twitter over to some one who's going to be updating it

It would be good to have this coin updated, along with the other similar coins that perform math functions but are sleeping too.

What's missing is somebody to organize.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [announce] Namecoin - a distributed naming system based on Bitcoin on: April 26, 2017, 09:48:11 PM
Is there even a community behind Namecoin??? Or you all hide on IRC?

Perhaps you are starting to realize that talk of "marketing" is very premature.



When Namecoin will hit $10 you will thank me for this proposal Wink

What proposal are you offering?

Is it a secret?

If you have something to say or some idea that requires more people then why not say what your idea is?

Open Source works. 

 Cheesy
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Namecoin: DNS and ICANN solution on: April 26, 2017, 09:41:11 PM
We have to adapt, even tho we are anarchist. Take them gently, then take over them!

Having good values, being a civilized person, is not the same as being of a particular political flavor like anarchist.

It is not "anti government" to simply not want the government and other organizations to control speech.

You want to promote Namecoin, and you are welcome to, but how many people or whatever do you need? What is it that you cannot do on your own? If you explain that then it will be easier.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Namecoin: DNS and ICANN solution on: April 26, 2017, 09:34:41 PM
Namecoin is one of the forgotten technologies that failed to latch onto bitcoin's success. A revival would need to be something really innovative but likely wouldn't come from ICANN. They might have hinted that they wouldn't interfere but such an org couldn't get involved with the promotion of a single crypto.

... When I type a .bit address into my browser nothing happens. It appends 'www' automatically then says 'server not found'. ...
I'm not sure is cooperating with ICANN would be that compatible with cryptocurrenty ethics. The fact that namecoin is a peer to peer currency promotes decentralization while ICANN is an organization that centrally manages procedures behind domain approvals. I don't know how namecoin would benefit from making .bit a tld.

I agree. But if a person goes to a computer and types in a .bit address and nothing happens... ?

Most people are not interested in browser extensions or downloading blockchains etc.

There has to be a portal that seamlessly interconnects .bit with icann and other government controlled webs like tor.



12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Namecoin: DNS and ICANN solution on: April 26, 2017, 04:50:12 PM
Namecoin is one of the forgotten technologies that failed to latch onto bitcoin's success. A revival would need to be something really innovative but likely wouldn't come from ICANN. They might have hinted that they wouldn't interfere but such an org couldn't get involved with the promotion of a single crypto.

ICANN  is an organization that decides whether you can use a particular domain, and of course they are ultimately forced to cede to the wishes of more powerful organizations, like governments, in various matters.

Namecoin is a process that allows any individual to use any available domain within its realm, without asking permission and without worrying about whether a government will seize their domain if they speak offensively regarding the interests of people who profit from a specific government.

'Reviving' seems like it should only need making .bit domains completely useable as .com .net .org etc. When I type a .bit address into my browser nothing happens. It appends 'www' automatically then says 'server not found'. It would be necessary to visit icann with a suitcase full of cash and some lawyers, and convince them to 'normalize' the .bit extension I guess. If it ever happens that .bit registered through Namecoin is accessible to everybody without having to load a blockchain or even know what Namecoin is, the way you can use a .org without knowing what icann is, Namecoin will be significant. It will change politics in many countries and more. 
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [announce] Namecoin - a distributed naming system based on Bitcoin on: April 26, 2017, 04:37:31 PM
Yes ok whatever new or another...

All coins need marketing... So let's do it!

It's been +48h that I'd like to reach the devs. Do I've to download an app for that???

Could someone talk to the responsible, and get to me on this thread?

Let's get all of us on Slack!

Why don't you just message domob or one of them? Send them a pm? If you have something specific you want to do then you can mention it here too.

You know, a lot of things do not trequire gang effort. For 'marketing' do you want somebody to give you money to 'market' it? If you have means you can make another Namecoin website with updated info and promote it, or put ads that lead to one of the already existing sites.

Agree that awareness of the importance of free speech and how Namecoin can figure in that is important. But 'marketing' is a harsh term, this isn't a streetwhore like ethereum, it's a coin started in the way cryptocurrency should start.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Namecoin: DNS and ICANN solution on: April 26, 2017, 01:52:41 PM

That page has a 404 error, but the same site does have http://dns.dot-bit.org/#what

It looks like that person tried to facilitate the coin but moved on a few years ago http://register.dot-bit.org/

There is good info at the site though

Quote from: dns.dot-bit.org link=http://dns.dot-bit.org

It allows you to :
* register domains (.bit currently)
* be the only person to be able to modify it (no possible external control)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Swartz

http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/squarezooko

Just found this piece from Aaron Swartz, Jan 2011.

Sounds like he is describing namecoin ... I wonder, could he have?

Also read his comments in the FAQ .... https://squaretriangle.jottit.com/faq

 Shocked
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [announce] Namecoin - a distributed naming system based on Bitcoin on: April 26, 2017, 01:29:55 PM

You don't start a "new" thread for a coin like Namecoin.  Cheesy You start "another" thread/

Namecoin preceded Litecoin, and aside from bitcoin it probably had the most input from 'Satoshi Nakamota' of any coin.

Also, this coin does not need 'marketing' in the sense of 'selling' it, the problem is that people don't know about it so it needs awareness built. If it really is able to build a censorship free internet that anybody can afford, that is enough.

For people who support censorship, unfortunately that includes a lot of people, some discussion has to be made to help them be less dangerous to people who believe in liberty. Some of their arguments are valid, e.g. people will sell drugs, abuse children, hire hitmen etc, but those things happen already and the solution is not to silence anybody.

New developers should add more features to Namecoin's network.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [announce] Namecoin - a distributed naming system based on Bitcoin on: April 26, 2017, 02:47:28 AM
Some links for the interested, no idea if this stuff works

https://dotbit.me/

http://dns.dot-bit.org/ old website needs to be updated

https://bit.namecoin.org/

A few of 'Satoshi's' last quotes regarded what turned into Namecoin

@dtvan: all 3 excellent points.
1) IP records don't need to be in the chain, just do registrar function not DNS.  And CA problem solved, neat.
2) Pick one TLD, .web +1.
3) Expiration and significant renewal costs, very important.

However, thinking more about this now I support inclusion of additional coinbases / tracking systems in the main network. The reason for doing this is so as not to water down CPU power into multiple networks. We want one strong network, so the network should be versatile.
Avoiding CPU power fragmentation is no longer a reason.  Independent networks/chains can share CPU power without sharing much else.  See: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1790.msg28696#msg28696 and http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1790.msg28715#msg28715


Quote from: Wikipedia link=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namecoin
In September 2010 a discussion was started in the Bitcointalk forum about a hypothetical system called BitDNS and generalizing bitcoin, based on a talk at IRC at 14 November 2010. Gavin Andresen and Satoshi Nakamoto joined the discussion in the Bitcointalk forum and supported the idea of BitDNS. A reward for implementing BitDNS was announced at the Bitcointalk forum in December 2010. Soon a developer decided to implement this idea to earn this reward. On April 18, 2011 Namecoin was introduced by Vinced (Rumored to be Vincent Durham) as a multipurpose and distributed naming system based on bitcoin. It was inspired by the BitDNS discussion on the Bitcointalk forum. WikiLeaks mentioned the project via Twitter in June 2011.

Is it required to download the Namecoin blockchain to resolve .bit addresses? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.bit

If there is some portal that easily connects .bit to other internets?
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