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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON: Scalable, private, mobile-friendly cryptocurrency on: May 22, 2022, 04:07:07 PM
any perspective there ?

I plan to try porting the atomic swap tool to Aeon in the near future.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON: Scalable, private, mobile-friendly cryptocurrency on: May 19, 2022, 03:51:05 PM
devs, tradeogre is fully functional,
but please find another solution, DEX or swap structure;

@stoffu, do you know if the atomic swaps that exist on Monero are feasible for AEON?

Perhaps we should also try to get some more centralized exchanges, though I agree time may be passing them by. But for now they are still useful. Maybe we could offer a bounty structure for community members to recruit exchanges?

@smooth
As far as I understood from reading the blog post by the COMIT team https://comit.network/blog/2020/10/06/monero-bitcoin/ explaining the inner workings of the software https://github.com/comit-network/xmr-btc-swap, the key to making the swap possible is the zero-knowledge proof scheme proposed by Sarang Noether that proves that a pair of public keys on Monero and Bitcoin share the same secret key. Since Aeon uses the same elliptic curve as Monero (curve25519), I believe the same scheme is applicable to Aeon as well (also to any other CryptoNote coins).
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON: Scalable, private, mobile-friendly cryptocurrency on: April 02, 2022, 12:43:07 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeon/comments/tu1p1p/aeonbtc_pending_market_removals_delisting_notice/

Although I don’t use Bittrex myself, this seems like a major loss. Can this be prevented somehow?
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON: Scalable, private, mobile-friendly cryptocurrency on: March 02, 2022, 03:34:15 AM
v0.14.2.0 release candidate

https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeon/comments/t4qjym/v01420_release_candidate/
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON: Scalable, private, mobile-friendly cryptocurrency on: October 21, 2021, 09:15:43 AM
Speaking of mining, is anybody looking at porting the Monero p2pool to aeon? It would likely work even better here given the verification-friendly PoW, lower barrier to running a node, etc.

Interesting, I haven't been following those recent developments.

Unfortunately, it seems to use some relatively recent functionality related to ZMQ and I think porting the changes to the aeon code (which is far behind monero) is rather difficult.

https://github.com/SChernykh/monero/commit/dfee15eee18a97be5a8fb9822527f98ebd1b33e9

Hmm, that didn't look so complicated, it's adding a few requests, right?

Are we missing ZMQ altogether or something?

First of all, I'm not knowledgeable about networking protocols including ZMQ. The aeon codebase currently has zmq_server.cpp/h, so I think there is some kind of ZMQ functionality, but the above monero code makes changes to zmq_pub.cpp/h which doesn't exist in aeon yet. If we were to adopt the code, we'd first need to merge any relevant upstream patches that eventually introduce zmq_pub.cpp/h. I imagine there will be lots of merge conflicts while cherry picking those commits out of order compared to monero.

Currently the P2Pool in monero has less than 3% of the total hashrate - the network is still dominated by large pools. I don't see much value in enabling P2Pool for aeon right now when the adoption is so low. I imagine the usage of it to be very low unless aeon mining becomes extremely popular.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON: Scalable, private, mobile-friendly cryptocurrency on: October 21, 2021, 05:45:09 AM
Speaking of mining, is anybody looking at porting the Monero p2pool to aeon? It would likely work even better here given the verification-friendly PoW, lower barrier to running a node, etc.

Interesting, I haven't been following those recent developments.

Unfortunately, it seems to use some relatively recent functionality related to ZMQ and I think porting the changes to the aeon code (which is far behind monero) is rather difficult.

https://github.com/SChernykh/monero/commit/dfee15eee18a97be5a8fb9822527f98ebd1b33e9
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON: Cryptonote privacy, efficiency, decentralization, and stability on: September 18, 2020, 01:37:21 AM
@stoffu @smooth

Can you add to the automated build bot to add 16.04 and 18.04 the build single thread build for validating block explorer builds that are required for onion explorer to properly compile?

Open a ticket in the issue tracker. Maybe I will be able to do so if I find time, or someone else will.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON: Cryptonote privacy, efficiency, decentralization, and stability on: September 15, 2020, 09:02:03 AM
Name for v0.14.0 release (hard fork v9)
https://github.com/aeonix/aeon/issues/195
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON: Cryptonote privacy, efficiency, decentralization, and stability on: July 26, 2020, 01:13:58 AM
I know for at least TradeOgre that that do not allow withdrawals to payment ID. I haven’t used bittrex in a while but I think they were the same last time I used them. I’ve never used HItBTC so I can’t say whether they do or don’t allow payment id withdrawals but if OP has a payment id then I assume they do

TradeOgre does allow withdrawal with a payment ID as I checked just now.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON: Cryptonote privacy, efficiency, decentralization, and stability on: July 21, 2020, 07:42:27 AM
hello I was send my coins from HitBTC to bittrex a couple hours ago but nothing happen   

Transaction hash:   f41cea057dd81aded27ce61e322e9b4caa8377fe9abe11ca4bdcff522eff7181

on the block explorer I do not see nothing

hitbtc saying that all was withdrow

It’s highly unlikely that an exchange would allow cross exchange transfers. Considering bittrex typically uses a standard deposit address and also a payment ID specific to user, it’s a good chance that the funds were either sent to the main address only with nonpayment id or hitbtc just didn’t send it.

I don't see why an exchange wouldn't allow transfer to another exchange. I see the said tx in the explorer http://162.210.173.150/search?value=f41cea057dd81aded27ce61e322e9b4caa8377fe9abe11ca4bdcff522eff7181 with long payment ID a24dd10766304e46b32aa18177c25d5df911a33900f748b385cbb09b53fe8af8. If this payment ID is indeed what Bittrex assigned to you and Bittrex still doesn't recognize your deposit, then it could be either HitBTC or Bittrex is lying.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON: Cryptonote privacy, efficiency, decentralization, and stability on: June 30, 2020, 04:26:31 AM
Finally, I was able to connect using a remote node and deposit and withdraw successfully.
Thank you all for your help.

It is still concerning that your local node couldn't start synchronizing. Also, relying on a remote node run by someone you don't know is not recommended. To check whether this problem is Aeon-specific or not, please try running Monero's daemon (https://github.com/monero-project/monero/releases) and see if it starts synchronizing.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON: Cryptonote privacy, efficiency, decentralization, and stability on: February 10, 2020, 05:03:38 AM
@bbc.reporter

I agree with you that IF there is a mining cartel, then all sorts of bad things happen, not only manipulating supply but also censorship, confiscation, and even inflation.


I don't quite see how a mining cartel can manipulate the supply. Any miners who violate the emission rule get immediately ignored by the network as they're seen as following a different protocol (like how Bitcoin Cash is irrelevant to Bitcoin).


I think he was referring to a single entity that holds a large portion of remaining coins being able to manipulate the above ideas due to the fact that average joe does not have many coins. Sort of like how Coinbase has a large % of certain coins, where if those were to disappear from the market, could adversely affect market valuations.

Supply wise, once tail emissions kick in, the above holder can manipulate the chain in many ways. It's no different than one ASIC operator controlling 93.5% of a blockchains hash power for two years, most likely to increase holdings for such a manner. 

Terms like supply and inflation have clear definitions. I don't see how this kind of abuse of terms is useful.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON: Cryptonote privacy, efficiency, decentralization, and stability on: February 10, 2020, 03:14:36 AM
@bbc.reporter

I agree with you that IF there is a mining cartel, then all sorts of bad things happen, not only manipulating supply but also censorship, confiscation, and even inflation.


I don't quite see how a mining cartel can manipulate the supply. Any miners who violate the emission rule get immediately ignored by the network as they're seen as following a different protocol (like how Bitcoin Cash is irrelevant to Bitcoin).
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON: Cryptonote privacy, efficiency, decentralization, and stability on: January 30, 2020, 05:06:17 AM
@smooth @stoffu. I reckon Aeon cannot follow and copy this recent development from Monero anymore.

https://www.monerooutreach.org/stories/RPC-Pay.html

I reckon that more public nodes might be needed to meet the demand if we are lucky enough to have more investors, adopters in the next bull market.

The RPC pay system is basically meaningful only for coins with CPU mineable (i.e., ASIC resistant) PoW algorithms. CPU mining in AEON is no longer profitable after the fork, so the RPC pay system makes little sense.

I'm also a bit skeptical about the actual effectiveness of the RPC pay system in general, even for Monero. For someone running a node and offering goods and services with the RPC pay system, he'd need to wait for a long time while continuously serving lots of customers before seeing the actual income (a solo-mined block). The income frequency can be higher for some very large and popular operators (like the top mining pools), but not so much for small businesses.

Also from the customer's point of view, especially in the context of using a remote public node, I think it'll be quite cumbersome to have to top up some credits (by mining) before being able to use the node. Noobs will cry "I don't want to wait!" and there'll be someone willing to offer public nodes without requiring any RPC payment.

We'll see if the RPC payment really proves to be useful or not.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON: Cryptonote privacy, efficiency, decentralization, and stability on: January 09, 2020, 01:55:16 AM
Thank You for Your involment.
I tried tx with part of the coins and the error is the same. I even tried doing the same from my second PC and I get the same error no matter what I try (GUI, CLI, local node, remote node).
I can not compile what You have suggested myself because I guess I need to run Linux. If You can send me binaries I would try it to report what happens in that case.

With trial and error I figured out that there is a problem with wallet if You want to use send all option. You need to play with available balance to make tx work...

Building the CLI on Windows isn't hard, just follow the instruction here: https://github.com/aeonix/aeon#on-windows

Anyway, here's the binary I've built for you:
Code:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA256

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3b6uly3ds55g6fc/aeon-getouts-errmsg.zip
SHA256(aeon-getouts-errmsg.zip)= 26611c4cc504aa4ebf8b84a5810f103b5610dea791bf4d708caa3387e22aedda
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----

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8ska6BC01EIOtzUa
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(signing key: https://github.com/aeonix/aeon/blob/master/utils/gpg_keys/stoffu.asc)

If you found a problem in the software, please provide more details (e.g. how to reproduce it). Also, generally it's easier to discuss this kind of development-related stuff on GitHub (https://github.com/aeonix/aeon/issues/new).
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON: Cryptonote privacy, efficiency, decentralization, and stability on: January 08, 2020, 08:45:42 AM
Does anybody have the same anoying problem as me? I want to send some coins using the latest Windows wallet and it seems that I can not do that…
I get the message: Can't create transaction: internal error: no ouputs created for the last 131400 blocks or something like that. No matter what I tried (remote node, local node, GUI, CLI...) the end result is the same...
Can somebody help pls?

Can you try sweep_unmixable with aeon-wallet-cli? What response do you see?

I saw that I need to approve tx of 0.02181779747 with fee of 0.001 so I confirmed just to see what happens next…
I waited for tx to mature, tried again to send all of the coins and the problem persists…
Can't create trasnaction: internal error: no outputs created for the last 131400 blocks...

That's very strange. Can you try this branch https://github.com/stoffu/monero/tree/aeon-getouts-errmsg to see more info in the error message? You need to compile the code yourself:
Code:
git clone --recursive https://github.com/stoffu/monero --branch aeon-getouts-errmsg
cd monero
make release-static-win64
If you have problems doing that, I can do it on my side and send you a link to the binary.

Quote
I waited for tx to mature, tried again to send all of the coins and the problem persists…

So you get this error when trying to send all your coins at once by using sweep_all? Does it work if you try to send just some of your balance?
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON: Cryptonote privacy, efficiency, decentralization, and stability on: January 06, 2020, 08:10:05 AM
Does anybody have the same anoying problem as me? I want to send some coins using the latest Windows wallet and it seems that I can not do that…
I get the message: Can't create transaction: internal error: no ouputs created for the last 131400 blocks or something like that. No matter what I tried (remote node, local node, GUI, CLI...) the end result is the same...
Can somebody help pls?

Can you try sweep_unmixable with aeon-wallet-cli? What response do you see?
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON [2019-09-27: Upgrade to version 0.13.0.0 ASAP HF@1146200 Oct 25] on: December 12, 2019, 04:57:20 AM
It appears Monero's fight for Asic resistance is becoming unsuccessful. I reckon this might not be good for Aeon if they change to a SHA3 mining algorithm that would be compatible to K12. We might be the neglected one again.



The mining hash rate for Monero has tripled following a recent change to the cryptocurrency's mining algorithm. The upgrade, called RandomX, is meant to make mining on the network more “general-purpose CPU” friendly. But the surging hash rate means Monero mining profitability has fallen off a cliff.

Read in full https://decrypt.co/14421/monero-mining-profitability-plummets-following-network-upgrade

RandomX is faster to compute than CryptoNight variants, so it's no surprise that the hash rate tripled after the fork. Everyone is mining at higher hash rate than before, so the profitability per kH naturally becomes lower. The article is just spreading misinformation.

I doubt RandomX ASICs coming out in the near future. The algorithm design is quite sophisticated, so creating economically viable ASICs with massively higher efficiency (e.g. 1000x) compared to CPUs will likely require a number of technological breakthroughs in the chip design industry. Though I believe they'll come out eventually when Monero gets more widely adopted and gains more financial values, it won't happen any time soon (maybe in a couple of years or even more).
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON [2019-09-27: Upgrade to version 0.13.0.0 ASAP HF@1146200 Oct 25] on: November 29, 2019, 05:50:54 AM
Upcoming point release - new release candidate

After fixing numerous problems with the previous release candidate (build issues, newly discovered information leak to remote nodes in the upstream, etc.), we're once again preparing for the upcoming point release

It won't require any sort of fork, just upgrading.

If you are aware of any bugs or issues please be sure they are reported in the next few days so we can evaluate whether there are fixes worth including in this release. This could include testing the current unreleased master branch if you are able to compile from source (binaries should also be available soon), as that is likely to be same as the new release (unless new problems are discovered).

Report issues here:
https://github.com/aeonix/aeon/issues
https://github.com/aeonix/aeon-gui/issues
Prep binaries:

Hashes:
Code:
SHA256(aeon-gui-linux-x64-v0.13.1.0.pre.1.tar.bz2)= 22393fda60955a8bf62400488554e2d81ad339cd3bfc2a96b597858a24c6f877
SHA256(aeon-gui-mac-x64-v0.13.1.0.pre.1.tar.bz2)= 587b74bf2139cfe1ebe3e503657e1d1d312d5bae385193d89de8f72bd72238a7
SHA256(aeon-gui-win-x64-v0.13.1.0.pre.1.zip)= 3b7bc10c15fbc4a053773df609f30bc9db83ff1091d0b1352184c8b7a2ed51bf
GPG signature
GPG key
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AEON [2019-09-27: Upgrade to version 0.13.0.0 ASAP HF@1146200 Oct 25] on: November 14, 2019, 02:20:52 AM
Interesting and fairly updated list of 293 Cryptonote coins that offer privacy by default, have some type of emissions schedule, and may or may not be light to transfer. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5115583.0

Most I would assume are worthless projects however with just these coins alone, Aeon must stand out in some way.

  • Aeon is very old, only 2 months younger than Monero. Longevity means a lot to legitimacy.
  • Most coins are premined or dev taxed.
  • Only Aeon is truly ASIC friendly. The OP of that thread calls coins using the original CryptoNight (with ASICs available) as ASIC friendly which is wrong. The original CryptoNight at this point is just a useless algorithm that failed to meet the original goal of ASIC resistance; the coin can only be mined profitably by ASICs, and those ASICs have to spend wasteful amount of energy for each hash calculation due to the inherent complexity of the algorithm. In contrast, truly ASIC friendly algorithms like K12 are inherently efficient to compute. Also remember that hash calculation efficiency directly affects the cost of blockchain sync.

Sorry, I just don't share your negative sentiment. Maybe this conversation is getting pointless and I should stop responding to you.
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