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841  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: True Flip. Blockchain Lottery Bounty Campaign (FB, TW, signature etc) on: August 09, 2017, 02:37:05 PM

Dear Dev,
with due respect to inform you, i don't get my reward in twitter and Facebook bounty campaign. Why didn't you update spreadsheet yet.
hopefully you will response me soon.
 


Almost 2 weeks passed since bounty campaign was closed,and still nothing calculated yet :c

Well I think time to lose all hopes here and move on already.

Hello,

calculations are in progress, you could easily realise it if you look not only to the your line.

Spreadsheet is updated regulary.

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io




842  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: True Flip. Blockchain Lottery Bounty Campaign (FB, TW, signature etc) on: August 09, 2017, 02:30:31 PM
HI, i joint in blog bounty. Line 159/160/161. I send letter to your team to send screenshot for total view. I don't know whether your team received it or not. Therefore I hope you say me about anything if you need. My email is nguyenthanhnhan1689@gmail.com

Hello RosyBaker,

thank you,
you will get your answer by email.


Best regards,
TrueFlip.io

843  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: True Flip. Blockchain Lottery Bounty Campaign (FB, TW, signature etc) on: August 09, 2017, 02:29:18 PM

where to write address?have already given a table where the address to enter?I have not found here in the topic(or mail should be send?

Hello,

wait please while the counting will be finished, than the form to fill will come to the first post.

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io
844  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: True Flip. Blockchain Lottery Bounty Campaign (FB, TW, signature etc) on: August 08, 2017, 02:20:15 PM
Hello,

Ok, about twitter, it's completely understandable to give me 0 stakes as I joined the campaign in the last day.

But what about COMMENTS?

If you check https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1980698.msg20433354#msg20433354 I made 7 comments.

In your old text about bounties you have a comments bounty http://archive.is/LZEj8#selection-2667.0-2689.75:

Quote
Blog Posts, Articles and Videos bounty: 20%   126 000 TFL

Bounty:
 10% for
- A high quality publication about the True Flip ICO or the True Flip lottery available for anyone: 10-100 stakes
- A high quality video about True Flip ICO or True Flip lottery available to the Internet: 10-100 stakes
- A high quality publication about True Flip ICO or True Flip lottery for your email subscribers: 10-100 stakes
- A high quality translation of True Flip’s publication at official media: 50 stakes
- Leave comment to the True Flip’s publication at official media: 10 stakes

Seems now comments are missing from OP??!

Hello,

we missed your report, sorry.

You will get stakes for twitter, but you haven't registered to the Blog bounty, so you don't get stakes for comments.

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io

845  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: True Flip. Blockchain Lottery Bounty Campaign (FB, TW, signature etc) on: August 08, 2017, 01:26:14 PM
Hello. The blogger bounty will send your team screenshot of pageview, right?

Yes, please to email bounty@trueflip.io
846  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: True Flip. Blockchain Lottery Bounty Campaign (FB, TW, signature etc) on: August 08, 2017, 01:24:58 PM

Hi,

I see that you've already counted Signature and Translations bounty.
Why don't you proceed them - people to see you are really working. And then proceed the Social + Blog bounties there you have a lot of counting.

And I also believe it's very important to write something about the project.
I really like it, but after the ICO you don't have a single post how are you doing, what are you doing? In the ANN you don't even posted an explanation why your system is under maintenance until 8th... And it's important for users and investors. For example I plan to keep my bounty tokens as investment and not just dump it on exchanges. But you need to update how's your project going.


Hi,
because all bounties will be proceed together.



How soon will the check? What does it mean - within a month?  Huh For a whole month, how many days will I need to check when a form for filling appears?  Cry

Hi,

you may come to find the form two weeks later.
I'll wait for everyone to fill the form.

Form will appear after every list will get tokens quantity, not stakes.



This time the situation is the same: I'm checking Facebook and Twitter bounty campaign.
I check everyone to make your stakes good quality.

If you see your stakes counted and the quantity reduced,
come to this file, find your tab and get the answer

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15QUy6uxxip4898pGDg17Ndph6H-t5unScIBcRiTQXAY/edit#gid=140606344

If you see your stakes not counted, wait please.

Keep calm about distribution.
There will be enought time to fill the form, to check the tokens quantity.

If I miss you, I'll write you the PM.

Thank you for your job, now I have more time to check and read your posts, some of them are awesome!

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io
847  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TrueFlip - Become a part of the world's largest blockchain lottery +Bounty on: August 08, 2017, 01:05:49 PM
TrueFlip should be listed on exchanges this week, right ?

I don't think it will be listed on Bittrex due to dividends and US laws, but is better than nothing.  Smiley

There would be no "dividends". Read the post just above.

I'm wondering why the site is still on maintanance, it must have been launched by this time already.

Hello andrejka,

we are waiting for final testing.

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io
848  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TrueFlip - Become a part of the world's largest blockchain lottery +Bounty on: August 07, 2017, 11:17:20 AM
   
Re: [ANN] TrueFlip - Become a part of the world's largest blockchain lottery +Bounty
Today at 07:46:12 AM
   

 
My experiences with TrueFlip after a few weeks:
 

First the good part:

I deposited Bitcoin some weeks ago and played lottery with it several times at TrueFlip.io.

The system to play lottery works fine and easy to handling. Through the TrueFlip videos at Youtube I learned how to calculate the lottery numbers based on the block after the draw on blockchain. It is very transparent, even for me as a non-tech-freak.

I am very satisfied: the system works stably. I have played several draws, and even once won a small amount, even the payoff works perfectly.

Small note: It would be good if Deposit and Withdrawal were done faster for the future (automatically instead of manually by the team).


Now my worries:

Convinced by the system, I read the whitepaper and the token-sale papers at the beginning of the ICO. So I bought several TFL Tokens and am now proud token holder.

The reason for the token purchase is in my case less speculative (I am not altcoin- or token-trader), but more because I want to benefit from the distributions for tokenholders. As I understand the whitepaper, 10-15% of the lottery will go to the tokenholder. I se that like a dividend on stocks.

But meanwhile, many new information is circulating and I am something confused... I'm reading about a lottery for tokenholders (why not? I am happy to receive a lottery as a free gift). However, this does not replace the promise of the 10-15% to the tokenholders, and I am really expecting and want to receive tokens or coins for the 10-15%, and not just lottery tickets. I mean; please do not exchange the dividends with lotteries!

I also read that the 10-15% dividends are paid out every few months.

I would like to have more transparency and some explanations on this topic, if one of the team members can find the time to explain this in a few words for us, the next days here in this forum?

Best regards
M



yes, these are my worries too, that they will exchange all the revenues for these free tickets only for token holders;
this would be the same as stealing our revenues and they keep the revenues...

and we get 1 or more free ticket(s) each month for a closed drawn only for token holders; well then true flip you may put your free tickets in this place where the sun never shines and give me my daily revenues, ok

I asked about this and they replied end September they have a plan with rules; they are developing at this point as we speak so to say
but yes i feel your concerns.. we get a free ticket(s) while they will keep all the revenues for themselves
and come up with a socalled political correct statement.
It will be ice cold reptillian clever and it will be the same as stealing our earned money because a free ticket we will be paying with our revenues in 2 days time period.
And the rest of the month (daily revenues) should be our own money not theirs.. but lets wait and see with what they come up... nothing else we can do

They should have stated this in the very first state not after the ico, it is very misleading..:

TFL’s provide their holders with the following opportunities:
o 10-15% of daily ticket revenues participate in a regular closed draw only for token holders;

and then this: the 10-15% dividends are paid out every few months.

personally i think it will be not in our good interests but theirs only. Why? Because every token holder will "get it" so when these tokens are out on exchanges and someone buys 1 token he/she will get the revenue too... but it will be a free ticket LOL... but what do I know. Revenues ARE NOT TICKETS TRUE FLIP


You will only be able to gain some profit by selling them at a higher price on an exchange.. no revenues for you but for them no matter how sugar coated they implied it at first.. also they wrote that the tokens are not shares (dividends) so here you go.. they will use this to explain their plan, you'll see.  Nothing exclusive about having True flip tokens... The more tokens you have, the more revenue you will get -> the more free tickets you will receive hahahaha what a complete bullshit hahahaha sorry i took the bait glad i only bought a few.
Anyways it's always the same sh*t with these kind of people, nothing is as it seems right?  I just can't be bothered with it really, i'll wait and see and sell them tokens and get it over with, when my thoughts are found right,, see ya


Hello!

Thanks a lot for your emotions and concerns.

Nothing changes.
The lottery for tokenholders was announced before ICO started. It is small bonus from us to tokenholders.

You concerns with revenues are understandable. But lets realise the situation. TrueFlip is working busyness. There are different rules about "dividends" in different countries.
The regular lotteries for tokenholders with award for everyone is the way to give to the tokenholders their revenues.

We want to make TrueFlip great and transparent project. Please remember that making things are usually take more time than talking about them.
And in the theory there is no difference between theory and practice, but in the practice it is.


Best regards,
TrueFlip.io




849  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TrueFlip - Become a part of the world's largest blockchain lottery +Bounty on: August 07, 2017, 10:49:27 AM
Hello,

yes, nobody hasn't recieved. The free ticket system is out of order on the site platform with ICO.

This week we are changing the platform and free tickets will come back.

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io


A month has passed, I still have not received a free ticket. How can you be trusted after this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1928663.msg20243304#msg20243304



"i want to try my luck" @deloreandel

thanks Smiley
850  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TrueFlip - Become a part of the world's largest blockchain lottery +Bounty on: August 07, 2017, 10:35:05 AM
How long does a withdrawal usually take? I requested a small withdrawal 48 hours ago, nothing yet except an automated email stating that the withdrawal will be issued manually (?). Missed out on BCC split because of this Sad

Hello timvim,

if your question is about lottery withdrawal, it may take up to 4 days.
You may ask about it to the support@trueflip.io and get the answer faster.
They will need your registration email to find out the situation.

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io


I have now contacted support@trueflip.io, since I still have not received my withdrawal. It has now been 4 days since I tried to withdraw...

Why Reserve status still not complete in my purchases?

So I cant move coins to etherium wallet Sad

Hello!

I can't help you here with support questions, because to find them out I need to ask you personal information.
To find out what is going on with your already done support requests I have to do the same - ask your emails.

So, if you want to get your answers, ask support@trueflip.io directly.

The withdrawal usually takes some days.

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io
851  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TrueFlip - Become a part of the world's largest blockchain lottery +Bounty on: August 07, 2017, 10:26:34 AM
I
When can i see to total BTC/ETH received for the ICO

Can i keep my signature ?
I had be active on the 4th weeks...But you don t count it...if you have time to check

I m in a hurry to play the games Smiley

Hello,

to get your stakes for 4 week you had to make 3+ posts during 26 and 28 of July.
You have only 1, so you don't get stakes for this week.

You may take your signature off.

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io
852  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: True Flip. Blockchain Lottery Bounty Campaign (FB, TW, signature etc) on: August 04, 2017, 10:26:13 AM
Hello,

I'm checking everyone with all posts that you've done in your history.

You don't need to remind me about some of them.

If there will be changes in your counting - you will get the report why.

For now - just be patient please, it goes on:)

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io


853  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TrueFlip - Become a part of the world's largest blockchain lottery +Bounty on: August 04, 2017, 10:21:31 AM

hello sir what date  we are going to see how many coins our rewards for oure total stake what day will be finish the spreedsheet?


So to get a reward for the signature of the company, I do not need to have a slack account?
[/quote]

Hello,

I don't know exactly what day will be finished all spreadsheets with stakes and tokens. Hope it will be in 2-3 weeks.

You don't need have a slack account to get reward.
I ask you to make trueflip.io account and give it to me after all spreadsheets will be updated with tokes quantity throw the form I'll give you later.

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io
854  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TrueFlip - Become a part of the world's largest blockchain lottery +Bounty on: August 04, 2017, 10:17:20 AM
I participated in the TFL crowdsale. It was pretty buggy. I'm not surprised that the team is behind on handing out bounties; some investors are still trying to figure out how to withdraw their tokens.

On the bright side, the team has been very responsive in slack and seems genuinely committed to trying to fix everything that was breaking. I hope the project is successful!

Hello mnmnmn,

thank you for your emotions and support!

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io
855  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TrueFlip - Become a part of the world's largest blockchain lottery +Bounty on: August 04, 2017, 10:15:23 AM
guys

do not trade at hitbtc

after doing some research there are a lot of complain for this exchange

yes, hitbtc should be avoided. there are so much problems in their site, i heard so many complaints about the withdrawal of their btc.. so its better to be safe and wait for a better exchange.
I agree with these two guys better keep yourself away from the exchange it. It would be much better if you wait for TrueFlip listed in another exchange
@TrueFlip  So, when are you going to tell a way to claim bounty? for now I have not seen the total bet result of each participant of the campaign

yeah i was looking at hitbtc and it appears as they have been trading trueflip tokens for almost a month even before the ico ended which is weird. i dont trust them at all, i even contemplated picking up some cheap tokens over there considering they are selling them almost 50% off the ico price but once again it's almost too good to be true and the circumstances make it a big risk.
looking forward to trueflip hitting a real exchange

another question for you trueflip.

can you explain more in depth the token holder game? a basic, who what when where how would be nice.

Hello lolgreglol,

About token holders lottery.

There will be special draw for tokenholders that bought tokens.
There will be 1 ticket to each 100 tokens.

Exactly is known nothing else. Next week there will be a new site platform with referral program and guys start to develop mechanic of the special draw.
You will get information as soon as possible.

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io
856  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TrueFlip - Become a part of the world's largest blockchain lottery +Bounty on: August 04, 2017, 09:40:31 AM
Hello udppro

The Whitepaper says that bounty is 5% but doesn't say that all of them will be distributed in ICO bounty.
ICO bounty was announced with 630 000 tokens that are 3% of 21 000 000 token limit.

...


well ... little math but a lot fantasy... Grin



In accord to than from you written we expect it to
be assign the following balance for every campaign:


Bounty Campaign Trueflip
----------------------------
   
signature           
66,935.00357
   
translation         
53,548.00286
   
blog              
53,548.00286

facebook           
40,161.00214
   
twitter      
26,774.00143
   
improvement    
26,774.00143
   
----------------

total      
267,740.0143


please could you confirm these values?

Hello udppro,

This numbers are very close.

I don't want to confirm them right now, I want to wait till developers says to me that they've made all their post-ICO things, resolve all requests with bonuses and give me the totel quantity of sold tokens.

I believe that numbers will be very like these.

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io





857  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TrueFlip - Become a part of the world's largest blockchain lottery +Bounty on: August 03, 2017, 10:28:17 AM
I'm also interested in joining the slack channel but hadn't received the invitation after using https://trueflip.io/slack

me neither, it says  "token_revoked"when i click submit.

Hello vamos1,

there must be a form that asks your email to join channel.

If there no, give me your email in PM, I'll add you to slack channel.


Best regards,
TrueFlip.io


When registering a slack  channel, a form appears with the filling of my email address, and it's all clear. That's just How does a slack channel account with my email be linked to the account on the bitcointalk forum?

Hello hovrah,

I think no how. Why it is important to connect slack account with bitcointalk account?

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io

858  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TrueFlip - Become a part of the world's largest blockchain lottery +Bounty on: August 03, 2017, 10:24:21 AM
How long does a withdrawal usually take? I requested a small withdrawal 48 hours ago, nothing yet except an automated email stating that the withdrawal will be issued manually (?). Missed out on BCC split because of this Sad

Hello timvim,

if your question is about lottery withdrawal, it may take up to 4 days.
You may ask about it to the support@trueflip.io and get the answer faster.
They will need your registration email to find out the situation.

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io
859  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: True Flip. Blockchain Lottery Bounty Campaign (FB, TW, signature etc) on: August 03, 2017, 10:10:13 AM
Hello!

Please, read the 1 post of the thread.

All tokens will be counted during month and you will see the quantity of them on the spreadsheets.

After everyone will be counted with tokens, on stake's base I'll give you the forms to fill in your registration emails and where you will give me the tokens quantity you are expecting to get accordingly to spreadsheets.
It will be double check for persons that took part in several campaigns.

So, if your results are already counted, please be patient and wait for other participants.


Best regards,
TrueFlip.io


Hello, I wanted to clarify the next question. After I registered on the official site of trueflip.io, should I expect a new message from you, after calculating the rewards and even then I can continue to fill out the form to get tokens?

Hello hovrah,

Yes, you are right.
There will be update in the thread with form address and persons who doesn't come theirselves will got the message from me.

Best regards,
Trueflip.io
860  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TrueFlip - Become a part of the world's largest blockchain lottery +Bounty on: August 02, 2017, 03:00:23 PM
Hello udppro,

math is obviously is not the strong side, so let's clear it again.

I have calculated one more time.

Here it was the mistake before:

total sold tokens = pre-ico tokens +ico tokens
6 247 267 = 1 050 000 + 5 197 267

http://prntscr.com/g3h14e
from here

https://etherscan.io/token/0xa7f976c360ebbed4465c2855684d1aae5271efa9#balances


"burned" tokens (unproduced tokens that could be sold)
14 700 000 - 6 247 267 = 8 452 733

sold tokens = 70% of all tokens that might be produced

100% of tokens that will be exist after smart contract produce them in this way
https://github.com/TrueFlip/trueflip-contracts

are
6 247 267*10/7 = 8 924 667.14285

Here may be some small corrections according to changed bonus after crossing the 2000btc boarder.
And may be not.


20% of all tokens to the team
1784933.42857

10% of all tokens
892 466.714285

5% of all tokens for the Advisory
446 233.3571425

3% of all tokens for ICO bounty
267 740.0142855

2% of all tokens for the Escrow
178 493.342857


The Whitepaper says that bounty is 5% but doesn't say that all of them will be distributed in ICO bounty.
ICO bounty was announced with 630 000 tokens that are 3% of 21 000 000 token limit.

There is no decreasing in bounty stake of all tokens.

There is decreasing in bounty tokens quantity because of decreasing the sold token quantity.

The quantity of Team token, Advisory tokens and Escrow tokens decreased too.

Everything is OK with this because tokens save their value.


Best Regards,
TrueFlip.io






Hello udppro,

thank you for your calculations.

Why the bounty program is deeply not fair?

"We invite you to join our bounty campaign! True Flip bounty fund consists of 630 000 True Flip Tokens."

3 WEEKS Huh for two calculate, easy, easy.
I understand that the math don't is your strong...

The bounty was out of the crowdsale  their have invent the mistake

SEE WE WHY?

21,000,000 TFL Total

420,000 TFL Escrow 2%
630,000 TFL Bounty 3%
1,050,000 TFL Advisers 5%
4,200,000 TFL Team 20%
 
6,300,000 TFL (Already distributed not Crowdsale)

21,000,000 TFL Total - 6,300,000 TFL = 14,700,000 TFL (Crowdsale 70%)


if now you calculate the bounty with the sold of ico also with other (Escrow,Advisers and Team)  it must the same

We hope you will not go mistake also with data below:


Crowdsale Result

1,050,000   sold-presale-ico
6,247,267   sold-ico

7,297,267 of 14,700,000 TFL (7,402,733 burning)

145,945.34  TFL Escrow 2%
218,918.01  TFL Bounty 3%
364,863.35  TFL Advisers 5%
1,459,453.4 TFL Team 20%

This Bounty Campaign is deeply not fair and put the whole the team of trueflip lottery in bad light for a successful future



After the recent news ... Today:

TFL/BTC   0.00032300   -21.41% (https://hitbtc.com/exchange/TFL-to-BTC)

but not finish here...I think if they really change the bounty...

this will be worse than a class action because
the project will be considered a scam and
We will send TFL token to 0

Team of TrueFlip ... meditate well


It isn't been correct respect at public white paper where you have decrease the bounty from 5% at 3% , for the mistake of information contained for then correct it only at the  final rush.

We aspect now that the final total supply is : 7,297,267 TFL (this will it should be crowdsale result)

Now for make ends meet and it be fair It should  reflect the original declaretion of WP with the amount TFL  delivered to all members with the same proportionates:

145,945.34  TFL Escrow 2%
218,918.01  TFL Bounty 3%
364,863.35  TFL Advisers 5%
1,459,453.4 TFL Team 20%


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