Is everything OK at Poloniex? I sent a few LISK there almost 3 hours ago and it has been stuck on 185 of 303 transactions. The blockchain shows over 1000 confirmations.
Any experiences there? Suspicious this happens during a deep dip in prices.

You ever hear of progress? Ever hear not to put all your eggs in one basket.
We all love Bitcoin but it is not the only game in town.
That said, most alts are scams it seems. But this one certainly appears NOT to be one.

And by your logic, you missed a roughly 300% BTC profit by not investing in LISK. 

Ouch, that is too bad. Didn't notice that.

Would be nice if they allow the ICO wallets to send out specific amounts. It is a more secure wallet due to having Google Authenticator.

Most of the alts are going down with BTC moving up. It generally hurts.

You can follow ICO's coming here: http://www.icocountdown.com/ (Any others to follow ICO's on?)

I was excited about LISK and then WAVES, maybe a little bit of the DAO. Nothing on the immediate horizon excites me, but there are some interesting ones listed for later on.
If you see anything coming, would be interesting to know why...

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I guess as you and 110110101 said, you need the full node wallet. And something tells me they are not going to get one, seem a little shady with the IOU's and lack of communication - which I read here on the forums.

I don't think the IOU's are very reflective of the actual price, if that is what you mean. It was like that when LISK launched. Though I think Bloombit(?) had a more reasonable IOU price.

Holders will dump if the price rise is too much, just normal way things work in the alt space. It takes time for coins to be distributed and if the tech, partnerships, etc. are any good, they will come. 

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I mentioned that yesterday. The only thing stopping them might be having a proper wallet at their end, so this is going to be a very interesting launch if any exchanges allow trading.
Anyone know about a wallet that can be used by an exchange as well?

I'm a bit undecided regarding the P&D and hype.

On the one hand sure, LISK had a lot of Hype but my attraction to LISK was more the tech, even more so than WAVES (at least at first).
On the P&D hand, those ICO funds that started coming in towards the end of the WAVES ICO were HUGE. I mean 800 and 1000 BTC, half a million USD is a lot of money. And I'm not sure all of those people were just in it for the Hype. Big money is also about doing their research, so I have the feeling they might really have done their homework.

I would say I logically expect WAVES to roughly return the same as LISK did post ICO. I guess we will know if the P&D is true or not that first week. My bet is that many are on board for the long ride.

This space is a little bitty baby. I feel strongly that BTC (or ETH) is just getting started price wise (still). Yeah, many missed the sub $100 early adopter phase, but if BTC is to succeed it is going to have a "market cap" in the Trillions. And many of these "alts" will be in the billions. I can honestly see LISK, WAVES, etc. being $5 - $10 in the next year or two. And if one of them really takes off in the financial tech space, we can basically see BTC all over again, just in an accompanying industry.

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Interesting this has come up. I honestly was convinced that LISK had the most potential of the two. Now, I'm not so sure. The more I look into WAVES the more I see its legitimate case uses. I don't mean that in a bad way against LISK (after all it is 4X its ICO price for a reason) but WAVES sort of snuck up on me - use case wise. The news with Mycelium integration, to me, was actually a bit of a Trojans Horse / hidden promise, sort of announcement. Look into that one guys and then branch out the thoughts...

When you have a network whose main function is money and it has a value in the Billions (3-10 Billion in the last 2 years), you can't just implement change quickly. The technical reasons are one aspect and then the open source consensus system just doesn't "give in" to change that quickly (by design.)

All these new tokens and such, can afford to make changes. But if anything should be broken with Bitcoin it would set the whole space back. I'm sure Ethereum or the like would step forward in its absence, but we truly need to tread careful. Though I would say, we are going on the slow side, especially with the block size - that is ridiculous.

It is a bit of a double edged sword.

I notice that login.lisk.io uses a 12 word passphrase. I've heard those are incredibly strong. But I also notice for 5 LISK you can add a 2nd passphrase.
Since these passphrases are random, is that really necessary? Ideas or links appreciated.

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This makes the whole space in general interesting - making Crypto's purchasable with USD/FIAT. Spreads things out quite a bit.
It allows for an easier measure in my mind i.e. - When BTC starts shooting up it isn't necessary that other Cryptos "go down" in BTC.
In other words, in the future, cryptos will more be measured in FIAT (until the time that FIAT is measured in Cryptos  )

Anyone know if there is a paper wallet site for LISK?

Thx in advance.

I think we could use https://login.lisk.io/ as an online wallet (send to it)?

Regarding Yobit and the WAVES price for that matter:

We are witnessing BTC going mainstream. WAVES helps connect it (and services, tokens, etc.) to the FIAT  world.
Chew on that and think - Only 16 million came in....

Yes, I called this earlier. 

That ascending triangle I mentioned is starting to breakout and up. Let's see if we can go past .001 for good....

Well, we can only hope to "mess up as bad as them" and be up 333% after a week.
I'd be real careful where I throw stones...

Look at the market potential of this little known space. Imagine the early days of the internet, when AOL, Ebay, Amazon, etc. were just little babies trading for a few dollars.
Well, we are there now regarding FINTEC and where it takes us, is very very difficult to see.

There are Black Swans among us and many are looking for the next one.
I'd say WAVES, because it interacts with and within the financial world, has a WHOLE LOT OF PROMISE.

And understand something, many many people that buy these "tokens" are newer to the game and are not so familiar with ICO's and such.
And also, some of the big money that got in is going to do everything it can to make its investment successful - nothing shocking there.

I'm very very big on WAVES and LISK going forward. The DAO not as much, but here are 3 examples of "We know not what they bring, but it might be big...".

Enjoy the ride.