KDB Restart
at approx 03:25 UTC (when the charlotte shift summarises) in about 1.5 hrs

No mining will be affected

Minor update to add an Approximate 5Nd light green area on the Shift Graph from the right so people can see approximately where they are up to when starting mining or changing their hash rate.

Three blocks while I slept...gotta love it!

This is our 3rd of BLOCK SATURDAY!

I am curious, does anyone use mineral oil or BitCool liquid to cool your miners. If so can you PM me. I have some questions. I am battling heat and without cutting holes into the building I am renting I need other solutions. Thanks in advance.

Jason
Encoremining

Yep!!! That's what my tin-foil hat rant is all about. When people first start out, they assume that if everyone else is there,
it must be good. More than likely, half of that pool, is people just "following along" because, they just don't do the research.
Familiarity, is what gets the initial thought of joining the "big" Corporate pools, and that false sense of security is the push to
join. What keeps them there, is the instant gratification of daily payouts. Smaller, daily payouts.

I find it awfully ironic, that many Bitcoin Miners, personally choose to stay away from companies like Apple and Microsoft,
because they dislike the Corporate shenanigans those companies are known for, so they often choose open source like Linux.
Then they go and devote their shares into a Corporate Pool, and Trust they are being taken care of.

Personally, I did months of reading, analyzing, and comparisons. Just not equipment, but more importantly, what pool to join.
Here I Am, Rockin Like a Hurricane!!! Go Kano Pool, or Go Home!!!

I've power enough in my shop to run a few miners. No direct Internet connection but there is a wifi hotspot my laptop/netbook can access. What I'm stuck on it how to add a switch or router to connect a couple miners.

In reference to the whole Flush, oops, Slush debacle:

The only reason that Pool got sooo big, ultimately, is Familiarity. Far too many people buy equipment, THEN research what
pool to join. They do a google search, and quickly identify Slush as " The World's First Bitcoin Mining Pool". Instantaneously
they think, it has to be the best because, it's the first, and it's soo big. Slush must be Trustworthy.

After joining, the user is mesmerized by the sleek gui, and the instant gratification of a daily payout, which every online
calculator makes them believe they must get. Most feel a sense of false security watching the blocks being found, one after
another, not ever understanding or learning what really happens "behind the scenes" of that slick gui. To them, everything
is simply "plug and play" and Slush is on call running the "boards".

It's at that point of blissful ignorance, that they are actually being taken advantage of, by a Corporate Committee. The users
don't realize, Slush, is comparable to The Wizard of Oz. Sure, he did start a Cooperative Mining effort, and began laying the
foundation for Pools, but he took the money and run, so to say. The reigns were handed over to a Committee. Slush went on
to other areas, and focused his time on Hardware Wallets. He just gets Royalties for "his" name at this point. That Committee
completely controls the pool, from behind the curtain of Slush's namesake.

Meanwhile, at Slushpool, the Committee focused on Growth. That's where things like Mass advertising, and a slick gui paid
off in spades. Imagine if you will, how much money that Committee earns, from that 2% fee. That's surely going to motivate
them, to keep the users coming to them. They completely understand, how advertising to the "instant gratification" miner
works. That's why Slush is now advertised as "The World's First Bitcoin Mining Pool to Support Asicboost". They worked
very closely with Halongmining, and their Marketing team, to ensure Slush would get the Lion's Share of DragonMint users.
Hell, Halongmining doesn't even advertise the for pool they test their equipment on, and that pool operator wrote their software.
They know users are Familiar with the name--Slush. They can appear to be Trustworthy to consumers, if Slush vouched for them.
It's a Corporate Win/Win that made Millions of dollars.

All the while, users see the pool plow through blocks, and they get their daily payouts. However, are they getting their fair share???
Do they even notice, or suspect any foul play??? Do any of them question how Trustful, the "World's First" is??? Probably not, and
that Corporate Committee understands that, as long as the user is receiving, what the online calculator tells them they SHOULD
earn, nobody will bat an eye. Most of their users have very little knowledge, of what their equipment ACTUALLY does. They just
buy it, hook it up, add Flush as their pool of choice and BOOM!!! They're the owner of a Magical Money Machine, just like the one
they read about online.

Ignorance is Bliss!!!

Anyone here got any experience/advice to running a miner off a wifi hotspot?

Relative to the pool hash rate yes.

The 5Nd is an amount of shares sent to the pool equivalent to 5 average 100% blocks of shares.

If the pool hash rate hasn't changed (but it does all the time ) then the 5Nd on the Help->Payouts page should be close.

If the pool doubled in size then it would take half as long to get to 5Nd
If the pool halved in size then it would take twice as long to get to 5Nd

When we find a block, your reward is based on how much of the last 5Nd of pool shares you submitted.
So if you've only been mining for e.g. 4Nd then you'd get 4/5 of what your hash rate would expect.
Same as if you stop mining, your shares last for 5Nd after you leave.
It takes 5Nd to reward each share.

If you didn't already, have a read of the Help->Payouts page.

Use the apps suggested on the web site and make sure your device has the correct time to the second.

You can check the time is correct on your device by just going to https://kano.is/
In the bottom left is the correct current server UTC time.
In the bottom right is the local time your device thinks it is.
Check they have the same or very close MM:SS
They are quite small so you'll have to expand them to read them.

If they are more than a few seconds different then you will regularly have trouble using 2FA as it explains on the 2FA page.
It they are out by 30 seconds then you wont be able to ever get it right.

Should be close to six days even now on the 5nd


MINE ON WITH KANO-SAN!

Sounds like someone was lying to you.
A miner uses less network in a day than watching a single video on youtube.

Miner network per day:
18 SPM to node + tcp data reply from node
Each share also has a reply from the node + tcp data reply to the node
2 work per minute from node + tcp data reply to the node
1 extra work per network block from node + tcp data reply to the node

A share is about 190 bytes if the usename+worker is 17 bytes (so it can be a bit bigger or smaller dependsing on your username+workername)
the tcp data reply is about 51 bytes
The share reply is about 98 bytes
with again a tcp reply of about 51 bytes.

So total per share is about 390 bytes
At 18 SPM that 18 * 60 * 24 per day = about 25920 shares per day.
= about 10.1MBytes a day in shares

Second is the work, data on one I jsut checked was 1317 bytes
This cna vary a bit due to the number of transactions available - but we'll go with 1319 since it makes a nice round number
the tcp data reply is again about 51 bytes.

So total per work is about 1370 bytes
You get 2 per minute plus one per block change = average about 2 * 60 * 24 per day + 144 blocks per day = about 2880 + 144 per day
= under 4.2MBytes a day in work

So say about 15MB a day per miner ...

I see you logged in and are OK now?
There was no lockout/ban in the log but I did see you verified the account

which country is this? if there isn't a law, the confiscation is unlawful which could be challenged?

How do you decide when is a good time to purchase miners? During a bear market like now would be a suitable time.
So it depends on factors that affect ROI:

1. Future technology mining roadmap e.g. introduction of 7nm
2. Bitcoin price outlook e.g. filing for Bitcoin ETF
3. Network difficulty

Any others?