'Recruiting' Participants?

[Muhammed Zakir]

Not sure how that has any relevance to my post? I don't really care who it is about and i never asked to be fair.

You said about Marco regarding "if it was you", "you would even want to think about..." etc... So I said this thread is probably about Carra23's actions.

Also surprised that you think it has a possibility of being allowed. "Marco may want to spam pms", nice advice.

If it is "allowed", it wouldn't be a spam.

It won't be allowed if more than one person does not want to receive the pms and he gets reported and as stated before gets a nice long ban for his trouble. I don't see the point not even for the best of posters, the line is to thin to try tiptoe across. Anyway i can not put anymore than i have so bye for now.  

What you said is true but I agree with this:

I, personally, wouldn't mind as long as the message is personalized and prepared for me, not for a hundred people. Just make it useful, show that it was dedicated to certain member, show that you've put in some work in examining and personalizing said message for the member in question and in my books you'd be OK. This is where global mods like SaltySpitoon, grue and the admins, BadBear and theymos, could express their opinion.

Bolding is my courtesy.

[maku]

I think that is should be allowed with no restrictions really. If manager of certain campaign is pertinacious enough to invite some users to his campaign why not? As long as he is sending 1-2 messages and don't spam it is acceptable. And I am fine with this.

[Quickseller]

I would say as it was you then you probably should not think about such tactics, maybe recruit someone who does not mind taking the risk of sending the few messages for you. I find it hard to believe you would even want to think about risking it with 2 pm spams in the past lol 3rd time you will get 30-60days or even perm ban, i would go with the latter. Also if i received the unsolicited pm from marcotheminer i would report you because i don't think it should be aloud it isn't asif i could not find your service bumped every 5mins on service thread or signatures plastered on every thread. Advice think no more and be happy with the current size campaign maybe even use the energy searching your members recent posters for spam

This is probably about Carra23. And if this is allowed, Marco may want to try it too.

I'm bumping this again.

Quote from: marcotheminer
Did carra23 contact you to join a campaign?

Quote from: bigtimespaghetti (green trusted user)
Hi marco, yes carra23 got in touch to join.

What I want to know is: may a campaign manager 'recruit' participants? If allowed, I'm sure many would (I would with a few users).

EDIT: I'll make a meta thread.

I have received reports that marco was sending PMs as described in the OP to a few people in the default trust network. While it is possible that he is referring to carra23, it is also probable that he is trying to cover his ass ahead of time as he was recently banned for sending unsolicited PMs. 

[EvilPanda]

I can understand why a campaign manager would want to recruit via PMs, especially if he's aiming at trusted members. Trusted people tend to be more influential and of course there's a possibility if getting positive trust from them. It works both ways. A trusted, high level member may negotiate rates and get paid more than he normally would and let's not forget that PMs are here for a reason. If you don't want to participate you can ignore the message or block him, no need to cry about it to a moderator.

[u9y42]

I can understand why a campaign manager would want to recruit via PMs, especially if he's aiming at trusted members. Trusted people tend to be more influential and of course there's a possibility if getting positive trust from them. It works both ways. A trusted, high level member may negotiate rates and get paid more than he normally would and let's not forget that PMs are here for a reason. If you don't want to participate you can ignore the message or block him, no need to cry about it to a moderator.

Well, yes, but if everyone starts doing it, I imagine it would get annoying really fast for those select few victi... trusted members.

Wouldn't another way of dealing with this be to simply pay trusted members more, much like higher ranks and staff already are at the moment? It's certainly less effective, but also less annoying and risky.

[Muhammed Zakir]

Well, yes, but if everyone starts doing it, I imagine it would get annoying really fast for those select few victi... trusted members.

Wouldn't another way of dealing with this be to simply pay trusted members more, much like higher ranks and staff already are at the moment? It's certainly less effective, but also less annoying and risky.

Doing it publicly is riskier than doing in PM, it will be buying trust in public but when doing via PM, many of them won't know about this. You won't get a ban for paying higher amount, however, you can get a ban for PM_spam.

[hilariousandco]

I think that is should be allowed with no restrictions really. If manager of certain campaign is pertinacious enough to invite some users to his campaign why not? As long as he is sending 1-2 messages and don't spam it is acceptable. And I am fine with this.

People are free to do it but if someone reports it as spam then there's nothing you can do about that. I don't mind people sending me unsolicited business offers I may be interested in but I don't want to be spammed by people inviting me to check out their faucet or new crappy bitcoin forum so there's always a risk when you send them. Best choose who you contact wisely or don't do it at all. You could always create a thread asking if certain people are interested and hope they see it I suppose.

[erikalui]

i do not agree....
if a receive a PM asking me to participate to a campaign because i write appreciable posts...
for me it is ok...
i'm in the condition to answer yes or no...
that's all

I guess you have already given your input 3-4 times on this thread and it's your POV. Not necessary that you have to agree with me but I don't want to receive PMs which I am not interested in or don't have time for. I have received numerous pms on another forum where people ask me to join their site and I report all those pms as spam. Here in this case, trusted members who aren't interested in joining signature campaigns and are aware of these campaigns already, it would not be worth sending them a job offer as they are already aware of these campaigns and aren't interested for some or the other reason. It can be surely considered as spam if someone reports them as they did not ask for the same.

[marcotheminer]

I would say as it was you then you probably should not think about such tactics, maybe recruit someone who does not mind taking the risk of sending the few messages for you. I find it hard to believe you would even want to think about risking it with 2 pm spams in the past lol 3rd time you will get 30-60days or even perm ban, i would go with the latter. Also if i received the unsolicited pm from marcotheminer i would report you because i don't think it should be aloud it isn't asif i could not find your service bumped every 5mins on service thread or signatures plastered on every thread. Advice think no more and be happy with the current size campaign maybe even use the energy searching your members recent posters for spam

This is probably about Carra23. And if this is allowed, Marco may want to try it too.

I'm bumping this again.

Quote from: marcotheminer
Did carra23 contact you to join a campaign?

Quote from: bigtimespaghetti (green trusted user)
Hi marco, yes carra23 got in touch to join.

What I want to know is: may a campaign manager 'recruit' participants? If allowed, I'm sure many would (I would with a few users).

EDIT: I'll make a meta thread.

I have received reports that marco was sending PMs as described in the OP to a few people in the default trust network. While it is possible that he is referring to carra23, it is also probable that he is trying to cover his ass ahead of time as he was recently banned for sending unsolicited PMs. 

I didn't send unsolicited ones, neither to solely default trust people. I sent messages to members that I had contact with before and/or were actively seeking signature campaigns. Some happened to be in default trust yes.

[marcotheminer]

I can understand why a campaign manager would want to recruit via PMs, especially if he's aiming at trusted members. Trusted people tend to be more influential and of course there's a possibility if getting positive trust from them. It works both ways. A trusted, high level member may negotiate rates and get paid more than he normally would and let's not forget that PMs are here for a reason. If you don't want to participate you can ignore the message or block him, no need to cry about it to a moderator.

If you don't want to participate you can ignore the message or block him, no need to cry about it to a moderator.

If only that was the case with everyone, then I wouldn't have been banned for sending PMs to campaign managers saying: if you're interested in a signature bot, let me know (basically).

I've gotten enough answers, so I'll lock this thread , if someone wants it unlocked for some reason just PM me!