OKPAY new restriction?

[krileayn]

I have applied to OKPAY to get verified, and logged in to check the status and then I saw this


ATTENTION: Due to the card issuer bank restrictions it is prohibited to pay for the OKPAY Card order and top-up by using the funds received from crypto-currency deposit or exchange.


The whole point of me signing up to OKPAY was to be able to convert crypto to USD when needed and then use their debit card.
Am I understanding this correctly?
Your opinion on this ?

[it-zone]

You understand it very correctly.

It seems like they do not want to announce it clearly to the customers as in effect there will be no customers.

[xtcminer]

Yep, they've just sold you the now-useless card. However you can still marvel at how colourful and shiny it is.

[krileayn]

Total bollocks

Well they can verify me or not, but I'm not using their services.

[malaimult]

it's just a strategy for the moment....

[joesmoe2012]

And just because it says you can't there's nothing that actually prevents you from doing so.

[krileayn]

And just because it says you can't there's nothing that actually prevents you from doing so.

Really?

I assumed they would be able to tell that my USD have come from btc-e, and then prevent me from loading that on my card.

I guess you could withdraw the USD from btc-e to your bank account and then transfer them to OKPAY, but whats the point of that, it just incurs more fees.

Okpay seemed good because of their low fees and min transfer amounts, the minimum bank wire transfer amounts from btc-e are a ridiculous USD1 000 ( at least for me).

[AgoraLive]

I know this thread is old!!!!

Has anybody been able to succesful load a debit card with a BTC payment?

[rammy2k2]

it's just a strategy for the moment....

I wouldnt call it strategy ... i call it lack of marketing

[moni3z]

Stay away from debit cards. Visa/MC/Amex and other worldwide ATM schemes are very particular about not letting anybody in the digital currency world use their products, back in the day they used to wholesale block Liberty Reserve ATM cards and many people lost money.

You also are flagged by your local bank everytime you put a foreign ATM card into a local machine. Do this enough and they will trace the card and request Visa hand over all your information for money laundering investigation, Netherlands is especially big on this tracking all foreign cards.

All those Polish ATM cards were scams back in the mid 2000s and nothing has changed.

You can get ecoin.cc Loyalbank cards, and exchange them p2p for ecoin funds to withdraw to ATM but again it's a foreign card that's going to be flagged and likely yanked by Mastercard and you'll lose all your money.

[AgoraLive]

I would really like to know if it's possible to load a OKPay Mastercard with USD which is from bitcoins, litecoins, doge, etc....? Anybody?

[marcotheminer]

Stay away from debit cards. Visa/MC/Amex and other worldwide ATM schemes are very particular about not letting anybody in the digital currency world use their products, back in the day they used to wholesale block Liberty Reserve ATM cards and many people lost money.

You also are flagged by your local bank everytime you put a foreign ATM card into a local machine. Do this enough and they will trace the card and request Visa hand over all your information for money laundering investigation, Netherlands is especially big on this tracking all foreign cards.

All those Polish ATM cards were scams back in the mid 2000s and nothing has changed.

You can get ecoin.cc Loyalbank cards, and exchange them p2p for ecoin funds to withdraw to ATM but again it's a foreign card that's going to be flagged and likely yanked by Mastercard and you'll lose all your money.

There are services that are fully functional and allowed. Notably: Bit-X (https://card.bit-x.com) and ANX. Xapo seems to ship cards extremely slowly.

[AgoraLive]

Stay away from debit cards. Visa/MC/Amex and other worldwide ATM schemes are very particular about not letting anybody in the digital currency world use their products, back in the day they used to wholesale block Liberty Reserve ATM cards and many people lost money.

You also are flagged by your local bank everytime you put a foreign ATM card into a local machine. Do this enough and they will trace the card and request Visa hand over all your information for money laundering investigation, Netherlands is especially big on this tracking all foreign cards.

All those Polish ATM cards were scams back in the mid 2000s and nothing has changed.

You can get ecoin.cc Loyalbank cards, and exchange them p2p for ecoin funds to withdraw to ATM but again it's a foreign card that's going to be flagged and likely yanked by Mastercard and you'll lose all your money.

There are services that are fully functional and allowed. Notably: Bit-X (https://card.bit-x.com) and ANX. Xapo seems to ship cards extremely slowly.

And with bit-x.com how do we order cards?

[marcotheminer]

Stay away from debit cards. Visa/MC/Amex and other worldwide ATM schemes are very particular about not letting anybody in the digital currency world use their products, back in the day they used to wholesale block Liberty Reserve ATM cards and many people lost money.

You also are flagged by your local bank everytime you put a foreign ATM card into a local machine. Do this enough and they will trace the card and request Visa hand over all your information for money laundering investigation, Netherlands is especially big on this tracking all foreign cards.

All those Polish ATM cards were scams back in the mid 2000s and nothing has changed.

You can get ecoin.cc Loyalbank cards, and exchange them p2p for ecoin funds to withdraw to ATM but again it's a foreign card that's going to be flagged and likely yanked by Mastercard and you'll lose all your money.

There are services that are fully functional and allowed. Notably: Bit-X (https://card.bit-x.com) and ANX. Xapo seems to ship cards extremely slowly.

And with bit-x.com how do we order cards?

Just have a read through https://card.bit-x.com/ and the official thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1006153.0

They'll have a shipping form soon.

[AgoraLive]

Stay away from debit cards. Visa/MC/Amex and other worldwide ATM schemes are very particular about not letting anybody in the digital currency world use their products, back in the day they used to wholesale block Liberty Reserve ATM cards and many people lost money.

You also are flagged by your local bank everytime you put a foreign ATM card into a local machine. Do this enough and they will trace the card and request Visa hand over all your information for money laundering investigation, Netherlands is especially big on this tracking all foreign cards.

All those Polish ATM cards were scams back in the mid 2000s and nothing has changed.

You can get ecoin.cc Loyalbank cards, and exchange them p2p for ecoin funds to withdraw to ATM but again it's a foreign card that's going to be flagged and likely yanked by Mastercard and you'll lose all your money.

There are services that are fully functional and allowed. Notably: Bit-X (https://card.bit-x.com) and ANX. Xapo seems to ship cards extremely slowly.

And with bit-x.com how do we order cards?

Just have a read through https://card.bit-x.com/ and the official thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1006153.0

They'll have a shipping form soon.

With bit-x why are the bitcoin adress starting with a 3? Have anybody been able to load their accounts with BTC's?

[marcotheminer]

Stay away from debit cards. Visa/MC/Amex and other worldwide ATM schemes are very particular about not letting anybody in the digital currency world use their products, back in the day they used to wholesale block Liberty Reserve ATM cards and many people lost money.

You also are flagged by your local bank everytime you put a foreign ATM card into a local machine. Do this enough and they will trace the card and request Visa hand over all your information for money laundering investigation, Netherlands is especially big on this tracking all foreign cards.

All those Polish ATM cards were scams back in the mid 2000s and nothing has changed.

You can get ecoin.cc Loyalbank cards, and exchange them p2p for ecoin funds to withdraw to ATM but again it's a foreign card that's going to be flagged and likely yanked by Mastercard and you'll lose all your money.

There are services that are fully functional and allowed. Notably: Bit-X (https://card.bit-x.com) and ANX. Xapo seems to ship cards extremely slowly.

And with bit-x.com how do we order cards?

Just have a read through https://card.bit-x.com/ and the official thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1006153.0

They'll have a shipping form soon.

With bit-x why are the bitcoin adress starting with a 3? Have anybody been able to load their accounts with BTC's?

They are multi-signature bitcoin addresses! If someone could link a multi-signature explanation, I'd appreciate (on mobile).

[favdesu]

They are multi-signature bitcoin addresses! If someone could link a multi-signature explanation, I'd appreciate (on mobile).

https://coincenter.org/2015/01/multi-sig/ is a neat article on mulit sig. Hope this explains it