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June 05, 2015, 06:52:39 PM
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I know the large scale miners are surely taking as many tax breaks as they can get for their operations, but have any of you small scale/part time miners or hobbyists tried to claim deductions for mining on your taxes?  I'm assuming you could write off some potrion of your electric bill, your internet, mining rent space area (whether it be home or business), the equipment and whatever else might be able to be written off or deducted.  I'm wondering if I could claim this as a home business and get enough deductions to offset the taxes I pay on my full time real day job?

Example: My wife does mystery shopping part time for play money and made $700 last year.  We had to file that because her mystery shopping company sent her an income tax declatation for being an independent contractor (I can't remember the form number but like a W-2).  Had she stayed under a $400 threshold that we did not know existed, it would have been free money.  Instead, since she made over the $400 low limit they hit her with an independent contractor earnings tax fee of about 40% on her earnings.  Of course she had no receipts for buying mystery shop items or transportation gasoline cost logs etc so she got screwed.  I'm looking to recoup some costs of the mining equipment, electric, internet, etc from my mining hobby/venture...however small it may be...

If this is in the wrong place or it has been addressed previously, feel free to move it or direct me to where I could find such disscussion.  Really curious on how people go about procuring the taxbreaks/offset costs associated with mining.
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June 06, 2015, 03:48:20 PM
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I found some tax software that came out in 2014 that supposedly deducts costs associated for mining and such automatically, anyone heard of anything like it or tried it?  http://libratax.com
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June 06, 2015, 05:18:32 PM
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I found some tax software that came out in 2014 that supposedly deducts costs associated for mining and such automatically, anyone heard of anything like it or tried it?  http://libratax.com

yeah it should be a service that work like cashila.com, bitwa.la and bitbill.eu, those are services that can be used to pay your bills too, but i never tried any of them

some of them appear to have their identity verified at least...
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June 06, 2015, 05:44:51 PM
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I figure if I'm going to try it as a hobby, might as well recoup some costs from Uncle Sam while trying.  Maybe might help to break ROI faster, especially if looking at more than a year for that to happen. 

I built a gaming rig for my step son about 2 years ago and dumped about $2000 in it for his 14th birthday.  I could definitely see dumping another $2000 for another gaming rig for my other son who turns 14 in a year.  Sure would be nice to be able to buy a hardcore chip and top notch graphics cards soon if I could write them off for altcoin mining and then stop and hand the setup to him when he turns 14.  The 1200w power supply I just bought to start out has a 10 year warranty, so no chance of having to buy another before the hardware is outdated.
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June 07, 2015, 04:30:13 AM
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... I'm assuming you could write off some potrion of your electric bill, your internet, mining rent space area (whether it be home or business), the equipment and whatever else might be able to be written off or deducted.  I'm wondering if I could claim this as a home business and get enough deductions to offset the taxes I pay on my full time real day job?

Yes you can on a Form 1040 Schedule C subject to certain limitation, but the idea of claiming the mining expenses is to offset the mining income and hopefully have a profit. Hint: utilize §179 deduction to expense all of your initial hardware purchases in the year of purchase. If you are doing something for fun and not worried about losing money, you can't offset these "hobby losses" against your other income.  Three years of straight losses and the IRS will assume that it is a hobby.  However, the IRS will make you pay tax if you make money on the hobby.

We had to file that because her mystery shopping company sent her an income tax declatation for being an independent contractor (I can't remember the form number but like a W-2).  Had she stayed under a $400 threshold that we did not know existed, it would have been free money.  Instead, since she made over the $400 low limit they hit her with an independent contractor earnings tax fee of about 40% on her earnings.

It was a Form 1099 that your wife got.  In her case if she made $399 it would still be taxable; the company just doesn't need to report the income to the IRS.  Similarly, there is no such de minimis exception for mining income:  you make $1 and the law requires your to pay income tax and self employment tax.
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