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Hi,
I partially own pay-dice.com (together with bandit and others), which got robbed of 440 XPY. Like you I was really pissed at first when we heard there was a backdoor used, even more pissed I became when johny told us he didn't refund. Yesterday we found out that Johny is not responsible for our hack, and I can't blame him for not refunding us. Please stop using us/paydice as an example for your witchhunt, it was our dumb fault. Also pretty amazing how people complain after getting their money back, when purchasing software with an open code. Perhaps Johny should've done a better job on securing his software, but in no way can he be blamed for an entire hack.
Who the fuck used you as an example ? I am a victim my self so I am a fucking live example, his code was shitty and poorly written, obvious vulnerabilities were left for a reason....now he claims that he was just an idiot and he didnt knew about the vulnerabilities, but I don't fucking care...I lost €7500 and I am not buying his drama....literally most of his customers got wiped out. He keeps deleting every negative feedback, he deleted hundreds of posts from unhappy customers who had their sites hacked and their wallet emptied...why the fuck he did that if he is innocent ? here is a bit old mirror of the coindice thread with the posts that he deleted
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mmitech (OP)
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January 13, 2015, 12:24:10 AM |
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I just randomly ran across this thread and stopped in mainly because of the title. For what it's worth, I thought it was important to vouch for Johny1976 because of an incident that occurred in the Project Development thread earlier that I happened to see as well. I ran across someone trying to give away his script and that they had put a backdoor in it, the community here was downloading and getting ready to use the script, which was being provided for free by the hacker(s).
First, let me state that I'm a customer of Johny's, I purchased one of his scripts for Bitcoin (I think 1 or 2 BTC) in September 2014 and have been running since then with no thefts. Second, some of his less reputable customers purchase the script from him, modify it with a backdoor, then redistribute it either for free or a cost. This has led to many of the incidents where funds have been lost. I am aware though of an earlier bug that led to a user being able to double withdrawal, but that was fixed in about week. There were a few customers that lost some money, but when I followed up with them, Johny did reimburse them some funds. Johny has offered technical support, assistance, and free upgrades to his script all without backdoors.
Like anything here in the forums, you can either take or leave it, but I think the accusations here against Johny1976 haven't had the due diligence necessary to label him as a scam artist. Again, this is just based on my experience and how he's dealt with other customers that I've spoken to as well outside the forums.
Good luck to all, and be careful.
Oh you don't say, can you give me the link to your site please, I want to check something.... EDIT: BTW, I fucking bought the code from him, I don't know why you have to bring the free fucking code and backdoor shit up when it is unrelated to this subject, and I can start counting the number of bugs that I found and submitted to be fixed... it didn't help because the code has so many vulnerabilities that made me lose €7500, it was only then when I gave up and stopped using it, and for your information I was quiet for almost 6 months and just watching how he keep fucking people over and over and all over again, this has to come to an end. And next time go chill somewhere else... you fucking idiot.
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January 13, 2015, 02:20:41 AM |
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I just randomly ran across this thread and stopped in mainly because of the title. For what it's worth, I thought it was important to vouch for Johny1976 because of an incident that occurred in the Project Development thread earlier that I happened to see as well. I ran across someone trying to give away his script and that they had put a backdoor in it, the community here was downloading and getting ready to use the script, which was being provided for free by the hacker(s).
First, let me state that I'm a customer of Johny's, I purchased one of his scripts for Bitcoin (I think 1 or 2 BTC) in September 2014 and have been running since then with no thefts. Second, some of his less reputable customers purchase the script from him, modify it with a backdoor, then redistribute it either for free or a cost. This has led to many of the incidents where funds have been lost. I am aware though of an earlier bug that led to a user being able to double withdrawal, but that was fixed in about week. There were a few customers that lost some money, but when I followed up with them, Johny did reimburse them some funds. Johny has offered technical support, assistance, and free upgrades to his script all without backdoors.
Like anything here in the forums, you can either take or leave it, but I think the accusations here against Johny1976 haven't had the due diligence necessary to label him as a scam artist. Again, this is just based on my experience and how he's dealt with other customers that I've spoken to as well outside the forums.
Good luck to all, and be careful.
Oh you don't say, can you give me the link to your site please, I want to check something.... EDIT: BTW, I fucking bought the code from him, I don't know why you have to bring the free fucking code and backdoor shit up when it is unrelated to this subject, and I can start counting the number of bugs that I found and submitted to be fixed... it didn't help because the code has so many vulnerabilities that made me lose €7500, it was only then when I gave up and stopped using it, and for your information I was quiet for almost 6 months and just watching how he keep fucking people over and over and all over again, this has to come to an end. And next time go chill somewhere else... you fucking idiot. +1. johny1976 is scum. his positive replies are his own. FYI, i just randomly ran across this thread too. Johny's cost people a lot of money, he is a thief and a liar/cheat.
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January 13, 2015, 03:00:32 AM Last edit: January 13, 2015, 04:26:29 AM by jh7phone |
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The overall arrogance of Jhony1976 is what really gets me... he treats his customers like shit & ignored me after I paid. I got terrible support, I bought the scrypt in OCTOBER 2014 over 3 months ago & Jhony could never find the time to help me set up my website. What am I supposed to do? He said "Full Support (Installation + Follow-up Support)" is included. I have been more then patient, after being strung along for months I believe I deserved my money back. When I sent my server details I waited for over a week not getting any response from Jhony, he kept ignoring my PM. I can see he signed in every few days, he just choose to not help me or reply to my messages. This happened more then once he asked for my server details again when he already had them, then I'm waiting 2 more weeks while he ignores me further. So I wait & wait & eventually decided with the horrible customer support I received I didn't want to risk Jhony setting up my site because I couldn't find one site his scrypt is on that hasn't been hacked. I cancelled my VPS & domain then I asked nicely for a refund, he ignored me further so I left negative feedback. Here is the private messages from the morning of January 11th before the two scam accusation threads went up, this actually happened: He basically said "fuck you I'm keeping your bitcoins". This makes Jhony a thief I don't care what anyone else says, if he doesn't respond and act in a fashion I deem timely, he doesn't deserve to be paid. To leave a customer waiting over 3 months is ridiculous. He said "you've gotton what you paid for" that makes him a liar. If I got what I paid for I would of had my site online within a few days. Jhony says "where is the evidence" while ignoring all the evidence posted. +1. johny1976 is scum. his positive replies are his own. FYI, i just randomly ran across this thread too. Johny's cost people a lot of money, he is a thief and a liar/cheat.
He feels the need to create fake positive feedback with noob accounts. Then creates fake negative feedback on his victims. Why do this if he's not up to something shady? This makes him a cheat... why the cover up? This is what a scam artist does, he lies or sugar coats his words while shitting all over you. Unfortunately I have done business with a few guys who turned out to be big-time RUDE, ARROGANT, THIEVING SCAM ARTISTS! I learned when to distance myself from these types of people to avoid getting ripped off. There's no way I would let Jhony set up my website now after these scam threads came online. If you believe he is an honest business man you are blind or retarded. I'm surprised this scumbag scammer is still allowed to do business on these forums.
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January 13, 2015, 04:07:16 AM |
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don't forget to mention he strikes deals to put his existing customer base "on ice" and help a newer customer in exchange for them deleting negative feedback and leaving positive feedback. that's the deal he agreed to with me. hence he kept posting an update was coming since December. once i finally got fed up and requested a refund he decided to put out a newer version of his script. 99.9% of the bug fixes were the bugs i informed him of. he is a low-life czech piece of S$%@
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johny1976
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January 13, 2015, 08:24:18 AM |
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Eoakland, jh7phone:
I didn't cost you any money. You bought script and you've gotten exactly what you've paid for. If you gave me reason to refund, I'd refund you. Nobody has robbed you, nobody stole money from you, nothing bad happened. You didn't give us proper reason to refund, I really don't know what are you complaning about.
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January 13, 2015, 08:54:18 AM |
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Eoakland, jh7phone:
I didn't cost you any money. You bought script and you've gotten exactly what you've paid for. If you gave me reason to refund, I'd refund you. Nobody has robbed you, nobody stole money from you, nothing bad happened. You didn't give us proper reason to refund, I really don't know what are you complaning about.
Not yet you mean?
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I was going to do something today but I haven't finished doing nothing from yesterday...
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January 13, 2015, 09:22:01 AM Last edit: January 13, 2015, 10:17:08 AM by jh7phone |
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Eoakland, jh7phone:
I didn't cost you any money. You bought script and you've gotten exactly what you've paid for. If you gave me reason to refund, I'd refund you. Nobody has robbed you, nobody stole money from you, nothing bad happened. You didn't give us proper reason to refund, I really don't know what are you complaning about.
He said "you've gotton what you paid for" that makes him a liar. If I got what I paid for I would of had my site online within a few days. Jhony says "where is the evidence" while ignoring all the evidence posted.
This comment shows the arrogance I was talking about, he just repeats the same bullshit over & over instead of listening to what we say. You are so full of shit Jhony. You don't know why we complain? Did you even read our posts? I won't be silenced, don't act innocent & don't tell me how to feel about your shitty service . I wait months while you ignore my PM & you don't know why I complain... amazing. You have some serious problems. You will NOT give my 1.2BTC back you made that clear so I'm done with you. I won't bother putting any more time or energy into this pointless back and fourth where I say there's a problem and you dismiss it saying there is no problem. It's very annoying. The truth is here, Jhony ripped me off end of discussion. Jhony you can fuck off to your self-moderated thread with your fake noob accounts and hope the newbies don't read your trust rating or search for you name in the scam section. I accept the loss & now all I can do now is give honest feedback sharing my personal experience with you. Take it for what it is.. A FUCKING NIGHTMARE!!! If you want to trust Jhony go ahead but remember he has a long history of disappointed customers & hacked casinos.
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January 13, 2015, 11:04:44 AM |
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Eoakland, jh7phone:
I didn't cost you any money. You bought script and you've gotten exactly what you've paid for. If you gave me reason to refund, I'd refund you. Nobody has robbed you, nobody stole money from you, nothing bad happened. You didn't give us proper reason to refund, I really don't know what are you complaning about.
He said "you've gotton what you paid for" that makes him a liar. If I got what I paid for I would of had my site online within a few days. Jhony says "where is the evidence" while ignoring all the evidence posted.
This comment shows the arrogance I was talking about, he just repeats the same bullshit over & over instead of listening to what we say. You are so full of shit Jhony. You don't know why we complain? Did you even read our posts? I won't be silenced, don't act innocent & don't tell me how to feel about your shitty service . I wait months while you ignore my PM & you don't know why I complain... amazing. You have some serious problems. You will NOT give my 1.2BTC back you made that clear so I'm done with you. I won't bother putting any more time or energy into this pointless back and fourth where I say there's a problem and you dismiss it saying there is no problem. It's very annoying. The truth is here, Jhony ripped me off end of discussion. Jhony you can fuck off to your self-moderated thread with your fake noob accounts and hope the newbies don't read your trust rating or search for you name in the scam section. I accept the loss & now all I can do now is give honest feedback sharing my personal experience with you. Take it for what it is.. A FUCKING NIGHTMARE!!! If you want to trust Jhony go ahead but remember he has a long history of disappointed customers & hacked casinos. Stop that lies. You didn't wait "months", it took about 2 weeks waiting. You've agreed to wait with installation until new update is released.
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January 13, 2015, 11:47:39 AM |
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Eoakland, jh7phone:
I didn't cost you any money. You bought script and you've gotten exactly what you've paid for. If you gave me reason to refund, I'd refund you. Nobody has robbed you, nobody stole money from you, nothing bad happened. You didn't give us proper reason to refund, I really don't know what are you complaning about.
He said "you've gotton what you paid for" that makes him a liar. If I got what I paid for I would of had my site online within a few days. Jhony says "where is the evidence" while ignoring all the evidence posted.
This comment shows the arrogance I was talking about, he just repeats the same bullshit over & over instead of listening to what we say. You are so full of shit Jhony. You don't know why we complain? Did you even read our posts? I won't be silenced, don't act innocent & don't tell me how to feel about your shitty service . I wait months while you ignore my PM & you don't know why I complain... amazing. You have some serious problems. You will NOT give my 1.2BTC back you made that clear so I'm done with you. I won't bother putting any more time or energy into this pointless back and fourth where I say there's a problem and you dismiss it saying there is no problem. It's very annoying. The truth is here, Jhony ripped me off end of discussion. Jhony you can fuck off to your self-moderated thread with your fake noob accounts and hope the newbies don't read your trust rating or search for you name in the scam section. I accept the loss & now all I can do now is give honest feedback sharing my personal experience with you. Take it for what it is.. A FUCKING NIGHTMARE!!! If you want to trust Jhony go ahead but remember he has a long history of disappointed customers & hacked casinos. Stop that lies. You didn't wait "months", it took about 2 weeks waiting. You've agreed to wait with installation until new update is released. you know what is really hard to understand ? it is not the scams and lies and shady business you do, this is understandable because you are a low life human, but what I don't get is the way you think what you do is justified and OK, you managed to fuck hundreds of people but you didn't have a clear moment you feel guilty or at least when you realize that this is just enough, you keep hiding your scam and your shady business with all means.... this really strikes me.
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January 13, 2015, 11:40:02 PM |
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I'm not a Coindice buyer, but I've checked out various versions of the script which have found their way into the public, and followed the public opinion on it. From what I've seen, I don't think there's a deliberate backdoor in Johny's version of the code, but I'm not sure he's competent enough to be writing and supporting a script of this nature.
At the moment, I'm not aware of any genuine, successful site using this script. There are some which at least seem to work, but since they operate with a small/no bankroll, they can't really be used as proof that the script is fit for the purpose of running a substantial, secure site. Even those are a minority compared to the ones that are completely broken, or the ones that appear and disappear soon after. Every time a new Coindice site launches, people know it'll be the same story as any one of the previous failures. Johny shouldn't necessarily be blamed for those failures - many are scammers, or people using fake versions of the script, or people who just don't know what they're doing - but how's anyone really to know if it's Johny's fault or not when he hasn't built up any trust?
Ultimately, why is anyone paying good money for a largely unproven script with so much negative feedback around it?
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January 14, 2015, 12:16:44 AM |
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I'm not a Coindice buyer, but I've checked out various versions of the script which have found their way into the public, and followed the public opinion on it. From what I've seen, I don't think there's a deliberate backdoor in Johny's version of the code, but I'm not sure he's competent enough to be writing and supporting a script of this nature.
At the moment, I'm not aware of any genuine, successful site using this script. There are some which at least seem to work, but since they operate with a small/no bankroll, they can't really be used as proof that the script is fit for the purpose of running a substantial, secure site. Even those are a minority compared to the ones that are completely broken, or the ones that appear and disappear soon after. Every time a new Coindice site launches, people know it'll be the same story as any one of the previous failures. Johny shouldn't necessarily be blamed for those failures - many are scammers, or people using fake versions of the script, or people who just don't know what they're doing - but how's anyone really to know if it's Johny's fault or not when he hasn't built up any trust?
Ultimately, why is anyone paying good money for a largely unproven script with so much negative feedback around it?
this is the exact problem, there is no negative feedback in his threads, and you don't get to look at the code until you buy it. I my self found and reported so many vulnerabilities in the code that cost me money/time/energy, even I as a system Admin (not a dev) could see how shitty the code was, first I thought he was just incompetent so I didn't want to make a big deal of it, I swallowed it and accepted the €7500 loss, but then I started following the subject and I saw hundreds of unsatisfied posts being deleted from customers who suffered hacks leaving his thread clean and positive, this for me somehow triggered a red flag, not to mention the IP of the hacker that came from Czech, and the way he did it was just clever, it is like someone who knew the code line by line (I still have the logs), but what really got me angry is when he pushed an update by e-mail and asked people to give him link to their sites...this was just the biggest Red flag.
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January 14, 2015, 01:14:05 AM |
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GUYS, GO THROUGH THE SCRIPT FIRST BEFORE SLINGING MORE MUD!
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eoakland
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January 14, 2015, 03:58:59 AM |
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Eoakland, jh7phone:
I didn't cost you any money. You bought script and you've gotten exactly what you've paid for. If you gave me reason to refund, I'd refund you. Nobody has robbed you, nobody stole money from you, nothing bad happened. You didn't give us proper reason to refund, I really don't know what are you complaning about.
johny, go F yourself.
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January 15, 2015, 12:37:12 AM |
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The guy ripped me off 16 BTC when he was the only one aware of my site at the time (summer 2014), he emptied the hot wallet using his intentional insecure code, I didn't want to flame hip up until I noticed that so many users where hacked the same way I was, and when they go complain in his "self moderated" thread he deletes every post and leaves only positive feed back. Today he push a new Update by e-mail and clearly asks people to give him the link to their sites... why the fuck anyone would do that ? beware, the guy is a scam artist. When I had someone help me setup my website with the back end I made sure it had no links to and sensitive information. Mistake was made hopefully the lesson is now learned for future reference.
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