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July 02, 2015, 03:05:25 AM
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Given the U.S. Supreme Court’s recent ruling that same-sex marriage is legal in all 50 states, a Lockwood family is now looking to solidify rights of its own.

We first told you about the Colliers in January of 2015 when the polygamist family appeared on an episode of the TLC show, “Sister Wives.”

The polyamorous movement is a national push to allow marriage between multiple partners.

Nathan Collier and his two wives, Vicki and Christine, said Tuesday that they are simply looking for equality.Nathan is legally married to Vicki, but also wants to legally wed Christine.

On Tuesday, Nathan and Christine traveled to the Yellowstone County Courthouse to see if they would be awarded the right to marry under the Marriage Equality Act.

Polygamy is illegal under Montana state law, and recognized as a misdemeanor offense.

“We just want to add legal legitimacy to an already happy, strong, loving family,” said Nathan.

As the two filled out their marriage application they were met with questions.

“There’s a spot on there where you put the dissolution date of your previous marriage and we put ‘not applicable,'” said Christine.

In fact, the couple was met with varied reaction from employees, who were caught off guard.

“So, are you legally married, you didn’t get divorced?” asked one clerk.

“We’ll have to deny that, let me go grab the other supervisor real quick so I can get confirmation but as far as I’m aware you can’t be married to two people at the same time,” said another clerk.

The Colliers were initially denied the license, and the clerk later returned to tell the couple that they would have to check with the Montana Attorney General’s office.



http://www.krtv.com/story/29450937/montana-polygamist-family-applies-for-marriage-license



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July 02, 2015, 04:21:48 AM
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This is interesting, not that they applied but following the same sex marriage legislation that just passed in the US. Is polygamy marriage next?

This tough one...

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July 02, 2015, 11:47:16 AM
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Let them be, the world's evolving,  humans are breaking free from "perfect society" rules put there by man.
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July 02, 2015, 11:58:39 AM
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Polygamy should be de jure legal, as it is already de facto legal. If an individual is allowed to have two girl-friends at the same time, then why can't he be allowed to have two wives? At least marriage means that the person will have to show some responsibility towards his wives and children, in case they breakup.
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July 02, 2015, 02:38:23 PM
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Polygamy should be de jure legal, as it is already de facto legal. If an individual is allowed to have two girl-friends at the same time, then why can't he be allowed to have two wives? At least marriage means that the person will have to show some responsibility towards his wives and children, in case they breakup.


In case of a divorce or inheritance who gets to keep the kids, the house? How does that work in polygamist societies?


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July 02, 2015, 03:06:46 PM
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Polygamy should be de jure legal, as it is already de facto legal. If an individual is allowed to have two girl-friends at the same time, then why can't he be allowed to have two wives? At least marriage means that the person will have to show some responsibility towards his wives and children, in case they breakup.


In case of a divorce or inheritance who gets to keep the kids, the house? How does that work in polygamist societies?




How would children get it when there's more than one? Split it evenly. Don't know why people feel the need to make their wives official in the eyes of the law any way. Get a will or just have a private ceremony. Doesn't need to be officially married.

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July 02, 2015, 03:38:34 PM
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Why people say US is the best country
  • US has legalized marijuana
  • US has legalized gun
  • US has legalized same-sex marriage

Well, let us add one more thing to the list. How is about polygamy? We just gather the human rights activists, tell them we need equality, and I think it will be legalized soon.


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July 02, 2015, 04:38:18 PM
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In case of a divorce or inheritance who gets to keep the kids, the house? How does that work in polygamist societies?

For the kids, there can be only one father and one mother. So in case of divorce, the settlement will be similar to that of monogamous couples. The kid will either stay with his dad, or with his mom. Else, he will alternate between both the parents. And regarding inheritance, the property will be equally divided among the kids.
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July 02, 2015, 05:37:05 PM
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In case of a divorce or inheritance who gets to keep the kids, the house? How does that work in polygamist societies?

I think it will be weird for kids in polygamist home, maybe he will get extra money from his step mother, or in otherwise he can be ignored by his dad since his mom is not favorite wife for his dad.

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July 02, 2015, 11:50:42 PM
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In case of a divorce or inheritance who gets to keep the kids, the house? How does that work in polygamist societies?

I think it will be weird for kids in polygamist home, maybe he will get extra money from his step mother, or in otherwise he can be ignored by his dad since his mom is not favorite wife for his dad.


What if the real mom hates her kid and the step mom wants full custody after the divorce? I think there is a simple reason why polygamy never went mainstream and mostly stayed with tribe like societies...


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July 03, 2015, 09:18:38 AM
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In case of a divorce or inheritance who gets to keep the kids, the house? How does that work in polygamist societies?

I think it will be weird for kids in polygamist home, maybe he will get extra money from his step mother, or in otherwise he can be ignored by his dad since his mom is not favorite wife for his dad.
What if the real mom hates her kid and the step mom wants full custody after the divorce? I think there is a simple reason why polygamy never went mainstream and mostly stayed with tribe like societies...

Sounds complicated to me, I'm wonder how men in Arab can practice polygamy without problems there. I think a man can't be really fair to his wives in love, financial, etc.

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July 03, 2015, 03:09:57 PM
Last edit: July 03, 2015, 03:46:32 PM by Wilikon
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In case of a divorce or inheritance who gets to keep the kids, the house? How does that work in polygamist societies?

I think it will be weird for kids in polygamist home, maybe he will get extra money from his step mother, or in otherwise he can be ignored by his dad since his mom is not favorite wife for his dad.
What if the real mom hates her kid and the step mom wants full custody after the divorce? I think there is a simple reason why polygamy never went mainstream and mostly stayed with tribe like societies...

Sounds complicated to me, I'm wonder how men in Arab can practice polygamy without problems there. I think a man can't be really fair to his wives in love, financial, etc.


It is complicated and sad already and what I wrote is not even a joke scenario...


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July 03, 2015, 03:15:10 PM
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Sounds complicated to me, I'm wonder how men in Arab can practice polygamy without problems there. I think a man can't be really fair to his wives in love, financial, etc.

Whether he can be fair to all his wives or not is his problem, not ours. If 90-year old Hugh Hefner is allowed to have a dozen teenage girlfriends at the same time in the United States, then why can't a 30-year old Arab living in Saudi Arabia have two wives who are in their 20s? And believe it or not, polygamy is rare in the Middle East. Only a small part of the population practices it (mostly Bedouins).
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July 03, 2015, 03:58:03 PM
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Sounds complicated to me, I'm wonder how men in Arab can practice polygamy without problems there. I think a man can't be really fair to his wives in love, financial, etc.

Whether he can be fair to all his wives or not is his problem, not ours. If 90-year old Hugh Hefner is allowed to have a dozen teenage girlfriends at the same time in the United States, then why can't a 30-year old Arab living in Saudi Arabia have two wives who are in their 20s? And believe it or not, polygamy is rare in the Middle East. Only a small part of the population practices it (mostly Bedouins).

I think the polygamist marriage by an Arab guy is not related to Hugh Hefner, that's a weird opinion. Do you think Middle East countries government legalized polygamy just because they were jealous to Hefner? Although its rare (below 5%) in Middle East, they have given inspiration by US men to get their "right" too in US.

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