Gambling with BTC in countries where BTC isn't defined as money - Legality?

[thebitcoinquiz.com]

Bitcoin gambling is not prosecuted right now so you won't have any problems playing anywhere. A lot of americans are betting online with bitcoins and no one cares.

The issue isn't about that no one cares, its about that its still not allowed(even if noone cares), and if they start caring then you can be in a trouble.
Yes, there are a lot of American users but I feel that the gambling websites should at least blacklist the American IPs(it will at least keep the sites safe and more trustable ) however people who gamble wont stop gambling this way.

If you live in a country where unlicensed gambling sites are prohibited you would know that the country ISP's automatically block the websites in question. If they pass a bill to render bitcoin sites unlicensed these will get blocked too. Till then enjoy. Everything else is just chit-chat.

But don't you think that as a responsible website the site needs to blacklist the users who are gambling from a country where gambling is illegal?
Luckybit does it, everyone should follow them.

[arallmuus]

Bitcoin gambling is not prosecuted right now so you won't have any problems playing anywhere. A lot of americans are betting online with bitcoins and no one cares.

The issue isn't about that no one cares, its about that its still not allowed(even if noone cares), and if they start caring then you can be in a trouble.
Yes, there are a lot of American users but I feel that the gambling websites should at least blacklist the American IPs(it will at least keep the sites safe and more trustable ) however people who gamble wont stop gambling this way.

If you live in a country where unlicensed gambling sites are prohibited you would know that the country ISP's automatically block the websites in question. If they pass a bill to render bitcoin sites unlicensed these will get blocked too. Till then enjoy. Everything else is just chit-chat.

But don't you think that as a responsible website the site needs to blacklist the users who are gambling from a country where gambling is illegal?
Luckybit does it, everyone should follow them.

Some website does indeed banned the IP from specific country, i.e Satoshibet, if you are a resident of US, you cant play in there, as for luckyb.it, It does not really a matter if they did bann specific IP from a country because player can play the game without opening the sites

Still the main point is that it is easy to bypass all of this IP issue, so I dont think this will be a problem if you are playing it safely by connecting with a VPN

[Wendigo]

Bitcoin gambling is not prosecuted right now so you won't have any problems playing anywhere. A lot of americans are betting online with bitcoins and no one cares.

The issue isn't about that no one cares, its about that its still not allowed(even if noone cares), and if they start caring then you can be in a trouble.
Yes, there are a lot of American users but I feel that the gambling websites should at least blacklist the American IPs(it will at least keep the sites safe and more trustable ) however people who gamble wont stop gambling this way.

If you live in a country where unlicensed gambling sites are prohibited you would know that the country ISP's automatically block the websites in question. If they pass a bill to render bitcoin sites unlicensed these will get blocked too. Till then enjoy. Everything else is just chit-chat.

But don't you think that as a responsible website the site needs to blacklist the users who are gambling from a country where gambling is illegal?
Luckybit does it, everyone should follow them.

Well most UNLICENSED gambling sites here are banned but I can open Luckybit just fine and click on the 'Agree' button just fine and proceed to gamble some coins right away. There is a misunderstanding between licensed and unlicensed online gambling. Because guess what bitcoins don't need a license. For now

[adaseb]

It probably isn't banned right now in most parts of the world because Bitcoin is pretty new. BUt eventually if it keeps gaining popularity then it probably will get banned everywhere.

[nekochan05]

when we using btc in countries where btc was not yet defined as money legally, we have to bear all risks by ourselves because all transaction with btc have not yet have the legal authorities' guarantees from the goverment.. of course for gambling too..
and even in countries where btc was a legally currency, their goverment have not definitely give a legality for gambling..

[josephno1]

If you live in a country that is against BTC gambling, you could just use a vpn or tor or something. I live in the US and so far it seems that the government only seems to persecute owners of the gambling sites.

[Brewins]

So far no statement about the legal status of people using BTC for gamble. I think it is a big grey area, so far, but no risk if BTC is not illegal where you are.

If you don't want to hear "it is not legal", just dont ask the authorities and be happy with your gambling

[grendel25]

My personal opinion is that any law against liberty is a crime against humanity.  It's odd that there are so many states that can get away with having laws against gambling especially when it is not hurting anyone.  Make aggressive crimes  illegal but something like gambling should 'almost' never be illegal. 

[AlwaysSunny]

The reality is that unless a government has specifically said that it's illegal (as I believe the UK have now), then the legality will only be known for sure once a) someone is prosecuted and convicted, and b) those people who are convicted exhaust all possible means of appealing their conviction. The question is, do you want to risk being the first to go through that ordeal if governments/prosecutors do decide it's illegal under existing laws, and that they're going to come after gamblers (rather than only going after the gambling sites).

As far as Seals With Clubs, wasn't the main guy operating out of Las Vegas? That seems like the worst possible place to be doing something like that and drawing attention to himself - he seems a bit like the Mark Cuban of bitcoin gambling. I'm not surprised he was run out of town...

[ANdr0id]

America is not allowed to online gamble. Does that include Central & South America?
On Cloudbet's website they said their casinos are in South America and in South East asia, so I am guessing that it is allowed there.
I doubt they are in either countries they listed  

[AlwaysSunny]

America is not allowed to online gamble. Does that include Central & South America?
On Cloudbet's website they said their casinos are in South America and in South East asia, so I am guessing that it is allowed there.
I doubt they are in either countries they listed  

It's not quite that simple - as far as I'm aware, the laws in the US don't relate to gambling specifically, they relate to transferring money for the purposes of gambling (although they're loosening these laws with respect to online gambling within your own state, which is why we've recently seen a number of states allowing it and awarding licenses to Pokerstars etc.). As long as bitcoin is not classed as a currency, then it's not black and white as to whether gambling with bitcoin is legal or illegal. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if some agency there decides to it is illegal in which case the high-profile sites like Cloudbet, Primedice, Nitrogen, etc. would likely be the ones in the firing line (assuming the government has a way to get to them).

[adaseb]

Whether bitcoin is considered as money or as a commodity doesn't matter. Look what is happening right now with gambling websites and USA residents.

Gambling is a very risky topic to begin with. Doesn't matter what happens with bitcoin in a legal aspect.

[subSTRATA]

Whether bitcoin is considered as money or as a commodity doesn't matter. Look what is happening right now with gambling websites and USA residents.

Gambling is a very risky topic to begin with. Doesn't matter what happens with bitcoin in a legal aspect.

in the USA, bitcoin gambling is a gray area; PD has cut off USA players to cover themselves in the case bitcoin gambling, specifically, becomes illegal in the US. many casinos still do allow betters from the states to play though.