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July 05, 2015, 01:15:05 PM
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I have a quad-core i7, a quad-core Digital Ocean VM, and a 2-month Azure trial.

How can I mine anything (that I can convert into Bitcoin) profitably? I tried to mine Monero (which is apparently one of the most profitable cryptocurrencies - please correct if this is wrong), and found that with 24 cores of computing power in virtual private servers, I could still only generate $0.15 a day...

I really want to get into mining, and I know it's not easy, but is there any way it is actually profitable? Please help me out.
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July 05, 2015, 01:17:39 PM
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You can't expect to print money without investing.

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July 05, 2015, 01:21:52 PM
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July 05, 2015, 01:35:00 PM
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I understand that, but I have invested in it (unintentionally) by having good(ish) computer hardware. I literally have a quad-i7 computer lying around doing nothing. Sure, I could sell it, but I don't really want to. So isn't this an (accidental) investment into mining, if you see what I mean?
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July 05, 2015, 01:56:11 PM
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Yes, but only if you are patient enough.

The majority of the mining profit calculators only look at the immediate data.  Which is perfect since most people are seeking instant gratification.  However, if you are one of the few intelligent people on the planet then a mining profit calculator is of no use.

You need to look for some low difficulty coins that have gone ignored and can be CPU mined.  X11 is a decent choice but there are some lesser known Scrypt's that are still CPU minable.  Mine these coins for a few months to a year.  Hold these coins and don't sell them.  Put them in cold storage, protect them as much as possible and just forget about them.

Come back in 1 year and most of those coins can be sold at a profit.
Come back 5 to 6 years later.  At least 1 or two of those coins should be worth 1000's of times what you originally found them at.

Trust me, it's been done.
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July 05, 2015, 07:05:21 PM
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Also, if the coin you want to mine is too hard for your CPU, you can always rent some hashing power on nicehash, miningrigrentals, etc...
The investment is minimal, since you rent by the hour, and allows you to mine anything you want.
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July 08, 2015, 07:55:54 PM
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Where can I find a list of good CPU coins to mine?  I always have a dozen or so Quad-Intel Mac Minis idle -- perhaps they could be mining instead?

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July 08, 2015, 09:19:43 PM
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I was looking at this just yesterday, Riecoin only has a CPU mining client and is tradable on Poloniex. ypool is the only pool I know of, however. You might be able to mine Primecoin, as well, although there are GPU miners for that. 
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July 12, 2015, 01:53:33 PM
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Zetacoin Express has it right. Instant gratification attempts just put you up against all the other no-patience types, all screwing each other in an un-winnable hash-rate-war.

Unless you can find folks who are able to be polite, all restraining themselves to using only one or two cores or such, and don't get noticed by someone with lots of cores or a botnet, or someone greedy who fires up a GPU instead of restraining themselves to a core or two, you end up driving up difficulty, and thus electricity expense, for everyone.

You probably do not want an actual per se "CPU coin" because those are what botnets and CPU-multipools will be raping.

Best is to quietly collect a stable of "abandoned" coins no one is mining, or no-one who wastes electricity using any more hashing power than necessary anyway.

Once someone throws a GPU or ASIC at a coin, everyone else tends to have to also, which is just wasteful. If you are going into a hashpower war, stick to merged mining, so your hashes mine as many coins as possible all at the same time using the same electricity.

The best profit I made was with BBQcoin, during the year that one could mine it perfectly well using just one CPU core. We were lucky that the first person to again point a GPU at it was sensible and on the IRC channel, so we were able to convince him to just use a CPU or two to save all of us electricity. When the coin emerged into the public eye again we made fortunes.

Seriously, if an abandoned coin you are considering would need you to point a GPU at it to get a reasonable flow of blocks, just walk on by. Point your GPUs at Blake256 merged mining pools maybe or something like that. (As they don't have ASICs yet. Basically any algo that has no ASICs and has many coins all merged mined together.) For your CPUs just keep picking through purportedly dead coins. The ones that are only being mined by a few CPUs at the moment you can probably point a core or two at without starting a big hashpower war. Don't throw umpteen cores at it though; if you have 24 cores you should be able to mine 12 to 24 "purportedly dead" coins without driving the existing stealth miners into deciding they are no longer getting a large enough piece of the pie thus it is time to bring the coin back into the public eye to cash in what they managed to stealth mine before some rude barbarian barged in and started a hash-power war...

The goal is to mine steadily for as many months or years as possible before either some idiot barges in with too much hashes driving the costs up or someone gets too impatient and decides to bring the coin to the attention of the public, get it on an exchange and so on so they can cash out the months or years of stealth mining they have already invested into it.

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July 13, 2015, 03:05:46 PM
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You can't expect to print money without investing.

at least bitcoin give anyone the opportunity to print money

but you don't need generally 1k rig, you can start with one 750ti and try to instamine some coin
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