Bitcoin Forum
June 27, 2024, 03:49:09 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Warning: One or more bitcointalk.org users have reported that they strongly believe that the creator of this topic is a scammer. (Login to see the detailed trust ratings.) While the bitcointalk.org administration does not verify such claims, you should proceed with extreme caution.
Pages: « 1 [2]  All
  Print  
Author Topic: These new EFFICIENT x11 algos everyone is talking about ?? BULLSHIT or real?  (Read 4257 times)
This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic.
e-sushi
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 34
Merit: 0


View Profile WWW
February 25, 2015, 06:03:37 AM
 #21

Sometimes, you stumble upon an older forum thread and even when it’s a years old, you can’t stop yourself from adding your two cents. This is one of these occasions… please feel invited to ignore this near-necro bump. Roll Eyes



1. is it more efficient than qrk?

You would need to define “efficient”. Do you mean power consumption efficiency, hashing speed efficiency, time-needed-to-implement efficiency, or something else? As is, the question is unclear and generally “too broad” too.

2. is it more secure than qrk?

11 hashes compared to a single hash? Sure it’s more secure. If a single hash is broken (eg hash collisions), X11 will have 10 other hashes backing it’s security. Can’t say the same in relation to QRK.

3. is it more efficient than scrypt? or is the miner just crippled and can't use the full potential of the card?

See my answer to Q1 – you need to define what you mean by “efficient”.

Also, you talk about “the miner”. What miner do you mean? The wallet “gen” or a separate mining tool?

Last but not least… what “card”? Looking at the huge market of GPUs and dedicated hashing hardware, just mentioning the word “card” is like talking about a corn of sand without specifying if you’re standing on a beach or in a sandbox.

4. are there more efficient miners already out for x11 that are more optimised?

Same as before: “more efficient” compared to what mining software and/or hardware? And again: what exactly are you aiming at when using the word “efficient“?

5. is it more asic resistant than qrk?

No. But it surely is harder to develop than a simpler QRK asic.

6. is it more asic resistant than scyptN , scrypt jane

Again – no.

7. is it x12, x13, x99 going to be better? will we need to fork all of the coins over and over again?

You really need to work on your questions.

a) What do you mean by “better“? Better in the sense of speed, security, or what? Also, can you point me to the x99 whitepaper? I am not aware of any cryptocurrency using 99 hashing algos (just like I’m pretty sure you won’t find 99 cryptographically secure hashing algorithms).

b) Forking “all of the coins over rand over again” surely doesn’t generally make sense. Actually, this question makes me ask if you know anything about cryptography and cryptocurrency in the first place. Obviously not, based on the fact that you keep repeating the word “better” without having defined what exactly you mean when using that word.

8. how does it compare to myriad, heavycoin and memorycoins algo?

Too broad… you’ld at least need to specify what specifics you want to see compared when asking for a comparison. After all, a cryptocurrency is so much more than a hashing algorithm. When you simply focus on the algos, you’re missing several security aspects of individual cryptocurrencies, and you’re also missing a big chunk of the parts that can make mining individual coins profitable (or non-profitable).

? …back your comments with evidence…

If you really expect to ever get good answers, you should really try to ask better questions using clear definitions instead of weird generalization attempts.

A good start – for example – would be to point me to papers that handle the “x99” you mentioned in question N° 7. As said: I’m pretty sure you won’t find 99 cryptographically secure hashing algorithms. Therefore, it would be good to be able to check what you’re talking about in the first place. Otherwise, you can’t really  expect “comments with evidence” (what I prefer to call “usable answers”).
MehZhure
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 34
Merit: 0


View Profile
July 31, 2015, 10:33:59 AM
 #22

Well, I can't say for sure whether all the hype about the new x11 algos is definitely a thing, but I have tweaked the heck out of my settings, and am getting a really nice efficiency.  When I started last week, i was getting about 4 Mh/s on my r9 290.  Tried some of the bins floating around and managed to get 6 Mh/s while maintaining a stable 60C or less, with a power draw of 113W avg.  I continued to tweak the settings and I finally found the sweet spot for my card.

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x338/fughe/7-31-2015%205-10-01%20AM_zpsxwzoou6l.png

You can see, my last round of tweaks has really squeezed the performance up.  Stable at 64C, the vrm is well below my 90C limit, no HW errors, and stable at 9.6 Mh/s....going on 40 minutes now.  And best of all, the avg power usage is only 155W, and my avg accepted hash rate with my pool (9.84 Mh/s) is higher than the rate I am showing.

Hopefully these settings will prove to be stable over long term.
Pages: « 1 [2]  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!