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September 06, 2015, 05:52:01 AM
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But how I will use that bitcoin when they are not physic form? And it will not be the same with the fiat money because the credits will have the same fees to pay?

There are already a few bitcoin debit cards available which you can use at anywhere that takes Visa
https://in.xapo.com/campaign/debit/
https://cryptopay.me/bitcoin-debit-card

But since these run on Visa network, similar fees do apply
I think a new bitcoin card specific network would have to be created in order to get lower fees

Sorry but have serious problems. Two rows above your citation from my post is written: "Because a debit card can be used with bitcoin in the same way like will fiat money." This does it mean that I know that have bitcoin debit card. Who told that don't have bitcoin debit card?

Or your post was to clarify mine?
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September 09, 2015, 12:23:12 PM
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Banks and bankers are ultimately too big to fail,
and governments will do anything they need to
in order to stay in business.
If the financial system starts moving to bitcoin,
then the banks will just buy out bitcoin
companies.
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September 09, 2015, 03:34:30 PM
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Banks and bankers are ultimately too big to fail,
and governments will do anything they need to
in order to stay in business.
If the financial system starts moving to bitcoin,
then the banks will just buy out bitcoin
companies.

I`d be happy with that. It's better to have the banks as your ally than your enemy.

I have no problems absolutely with the banks, and this would be the best thing that could happen, to resolve this conflict in a civil way.

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September 09, 2015, 04:06:06 PM
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Banks are only necessary if people need to deposit their money in them. With bitcoin there is really no reason to keep your bitcoins in a bank.

However, it is foreseeable that people may want to keep their bitcoins safe by keeping them in a bank that they trust. Even if this occurs, bitcoin allows for PROOF OF SOLVENCY which means that everyone can verify that the bank is actually storing their bitcoins for them.

This effectively eliminates the possibility of Fractional Reserve Banking. Who in their right mind is going to give their bitcoins to a bank that turns our around and lends them to other people and makes bets in the stock market with them? Nobody.

Only those banks that embrace PROOF OF SOLVENCY will survive with bitcoin. Those banks that try to hide what they are doing with people's money or try to give some reason why people should allow them to keep only 3% of deposits in reserve and lend the rest out, will not survive. Nobody will use these when there are PROVEN SOLVENT banks now in existence.

What you think?

In an ideal world (a world where banks aren't this powerful and people are willing to take responsability) banks will become obsolete for the citizenship and small bussinesses, only useful for companies in need of big amounts of liquid assets. The reason behind this statement is that not very long ago most of the tasks that banks do today were solved in contracts among individuals.

For example the payment conditions for mortgages were stipulated in a contract between the interested parties (usually an individual owner and the buyer) and was in rare ocassions where a bank was involved. The contract was as valid as any other legal document and the law protected the owner in case of dues being unpaid or the buyer in case any of the contract conditions weren't met by the owner. Another example are personal loans which were done among individuals as well and all the conditions and interest rate arranged via a notary contract. Nowadays this would be a very valid way for people and small bussiness with some saving to have a good return for an investment with small risks since, again law protected the loaners against unpayment and loanees against not stipulated in the contract.

Right now I don't recollect the link but there are law firm websites which promotes and try to educate the population about the laws that were valid in the past can still be applied today for doing these kinds of bussiness arragements without a bank being part of the equation. A bank gives more security to the transactions and makes all the work for you but if the parties take the time to prepare the contract and hire a notary and educate themselves a bit about contract law both will benefit more since they won't have a middleman who asks for its share.
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September 10, 2015, 05:34:02 AM
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Banks and bankers are ultimately too big to fail,
and governments will do anything they need to
in order to stay in business.
If the financial system starts moving to bitcoin,
then the banks will just buy out bitcoin
companies.

I`d be happy with that. It's better to have the banks as your ally than your enemy.

I have no problems absolutely with the banks, and this would be the best thing that could happen, to resolve this conflict in a civil way.

The best thing to do. It it will be the ideal choice if banks will adopt bitcoin as a currency with all the best it has. But I'm fear that this will fight the other currencies and it will not be possible. Only if the bankers find other incentives for the other currencies that can compete in some ways bitcoin.
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September 10, 2015, 05:16:31 PM
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Banks and bankers are ultimately too big to fail,
and governments will do anything they need to
in order to stay in business.
If the financial system starts moving to bitcoin,
then the banks will just buy out bitcoin
companies.

I`d be happy with that. It's better to have the banks as your ally than your enemy.

I have no problems absolutely with the banks, and this would be the best thing that could happen, to resolve this conflict in a civil way.

The best thing to do. It it will be the ideal choice if banks will adopt bitcoin as a currency with all the best it has. But I'm fear that this will fight the other currencies and it will not be possible. Only if the bankers find other incentives for the other currencies that can compete in some ways bitcoin.

I think the banks will like cryptocurrency eventually. They are already in this monetary system, gaining advantage of fiat, by printing it.

But when it collapses, the banks have to switch, to save their own businesses, and then it can come quite handy for a bank to be the first one to adopt bitcoin.

And politicians? They will love to get campaign donations via bitcoin, because it will be easier for them to raise money.

So its all set and done, its only a question of time until it becomes mainstream.

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September 16, 2015, 08:57:29 PM
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with Bitcoin I run my own bitcoin bank... that's one of the points and advantages of using bitcoin after all.
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September 17, 2015, 04:50:56 AM
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with Bitcoin I run my own bitcoin bank... that's one of the points and advantages of using bitcoin after all.

I don't know in which country you live but to run a bank needed to many licenses and capitals. It will be wonderful if it will be a bitcoin bank. By first of all bitcoin must be accepted and regulated by the Central Bank of the country (your country). Hope that this thing is ok in your case.
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September 17, 2015, 05:29:23 AM
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Bitcoin will provide all the banking facility to us at the free of cost. We can hold money and or receive. Other than paying interest we can enjoy all the benefits of banking with bitcoin technology. Now a days in many developed countries negative interest is practice already.
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