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November 28, 2015, 09:25:33 AM
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Well looks like this has now turned 100% scam. I had 3 pending payments for what I had remaining short change. No contact from support in the last 2 months and now their site is down and no access and DNS gone offline too. Looks like they where a scam all together all support tickets gone and even their site access gone. 2 things one moving hosting or as I suspect that their site is now in vapor scam land like the rest.

I was told they where in partnership or had some sort of dealing with DigitalBTC and seems when contacting them regarding this they have said they have nothing to do with it yet other people have said different.

Anyone got the knowledge to find out or complete a dox on DigitalBTC or find out if they where behind Mintsy as I might be looking to taking action apon DigitalBTC providing sources and info leads to them owning or being in partnership with.

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November 28, 2015, 03:38:40 PM
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I do believe BitJohn said on another topic recently they don't know who Mintsy is..
And i recall him saying that they ran off with the money.

So.. you're not telling me anything new.

I highly suggest people start paying some attention to what is going on around here.
Rather than stuffing their heads in the sand.

Interrogations on the Cryptsy Scam topic spearheaded by myself and a couple other guys led to this info.
You're welcome.
Good luck noobs getting BitJohn or others to send you private internal info.

ProTip:
They don't divulge private inner workings to noobs via request Wink

Yours truly, your friendly neighborhood evil monster FUD'ing Troll picking on poor innocent people.

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November 28, 2015, 03:55:36 PM
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I do believe BitJohn said on another topic recently they don't know who Mintsy is..
And i recall him saying that they ran off with the money.

So.. you're not telling me anything new.

I highly suggest people start paying some attention to what is going on around here.
Rather than stuffing their heads in the sand.

Interrogations on the Cryptsy Scam topic spearheaded by myself and a couple other guys led to this info.
You're welcome.
Good luck noobs getting BitJohn or others to send you private internal info.

ProTip:
They don't divulge private inner workings to noobs via request Wink

Yours truly, your friendly neighborhood evil monster FUD'ing Troll picking on poor innocent people.

Dude, let me on some of this action. HAHAHA

Here's a thought experiment for the OP.

If you came up with some sort of business idea and sought me out to partner up with you 50/50, would you have its most valuable asset - the business' domain name - in my name?

Mintsy.com et al. is owned by Paul Vernon of Cryptsy, with him and BitJohn fully at the helm, with the latter no longer at Cryptsy when Mintsy went kaputski.

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November 28, 2015, 04:18:37 PM
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Ahh ok i was not honestly clear on those finer points Gleb.
And by all means lead the way Wink

Gleb has been a tour deforce of digging up info.
He is key in provoking info from BitJohn etc on another topic.
Which is how we know what we do about Mintsy.

I was by no means trying to hog the credit.
I was just saying me and Gleb and a couple others were playing good cop / bad cop with BitJohn etc. ROFL
And managed to draw out some info about Mintsy specifically.

I will admit it's buried in a lot off shit to sift through but it is there if you used the search function here..

EDIT:
BitJohn did NOT use the word scam at any point.
But he did say they don't know who they are and they ran off..
So the OP's assertion is entirely valid i would say.

I do believe when we heard that Gleb had commented well isn't that nice ?
Like BJ etc tell us that then but how about the crowd waiting still in the dark ?
See what i mean ?
Like BJ knew this but didn't say anything publicly previously..
For shame.. BJ !
..for shame !!!
tsk tsk !

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November 28, 2015, 04:35:14 PM
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Sorry to here you have been disappointed with Cryptsy in the past. I can assure you that Mintsy is its own entity that will work in conjunction with Cryptsy. The familiar face will be me and Paul who is the CEO beyond that its a different crowd. This has been a partnership long in the making and I think folks are going to be very excited about what we are bringing to the table. Not much I can put out yet but when I can I will. I do hope you reconsider your opinion and hold judgement until the launch. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.

I guess this explains why BitJohn said in this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1XCiqA2CeE - about what Mintsy had up their sleeve upon reading their reports but was unable to disclose anything then. It was right after BitJohn went into detail as to what is and isn't shared by Cryptsy with all the other crypto exchanges.

Not bad for someone who hawked Cryptsy prior to its official launch, then became a mod there, then promoted to PR, HR, etc., to handling Mintsy developed by some others with Paul Vernon owning the domain names, then left Cryptsy the same time Mintsy went kaputski.

For shits and giggles search "Road Town" (with quotes) on this forum, an address that Mintsy uses in the Virgin Islands.

BITCOIN Panel / Virtual Currencies ---SFAFP Wednesday, February 26th at the Bankers Club in Miami 11:45am

I can easily place Mintsy in that same building where the above was held.

http://member.afraccess.com/media?id=CMN://6A691469&filename=20140917/DCC_01553559.pdf



https://twitter.com/shanewmurphy



http://www.fticonsulting-asia.com/about/locations/florida



http://www.sfafp.org/event-834610



That must've been one helluva discussion given the impressive website maintained by one of the panelist: http://bitcoinoftheamericas.com/ (try not to laugh)

https://twitter.com/bohan_h/status/526735070220910596



Great meeting with NIERs & Victor H. Miesel, Chief Economist from @CherryBekaert Auditors. http://www.cbh.com/about/our-professionals/victor-h-miesel/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_Bekaert_LLP

Cherry Bekaert LLP (formerly Cherry, Bekaert & Holland L.L.P.) is the second largest certified public accounting firm headquartered in the Southeast United States.[1] With offices located in Florida, Virginia, Georgia, North Carolina, and South Carolina,[2] Cherry Bekaert ranks in the top 30 US accounting firms.[3] Employing nearly 750 professionals, Cherry Bekaert reported revenues of $127.47 million in 2011.[3]

https://twitter.com/bohan_h/status/526735070220910596


Great meeting with NIERs & Victor H. Miesel, Chief Economist from @CherryBekaert Auditors. http://www.cbh.com/about/our-professionals/victor-h-miesel/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_Bekaert_LLP

Cherry Bekaert LLP (formerly Cherry, Bekaert & Holland L.L.P.) is the second largest certified public accounting firm headquartered in the Southeast United States.[1] With offices located in Florida, Virginia, Georgia, North Carolina, and South Carolina,[2] Cherry Bekaert ranks in the top 30 US accounting firms.[3] Employing nearly 750 professionals, Cherry Bekaert reported revenues of $127.47 million in 2011.[3]

LOL solid finally found new picture which he can post to defend his scam. But still did not provide any proof for ORDERS IN JULY and URO Protocol being fake.



Check out the thread where the above two quotes were gleaned.
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=786492.0



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https://twitter.com/Bit_John



BitJohn starts takin' 'bout Mintsy here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1XCiqA2CeE&feature=youtu.be&t=2850 (@2850 second mark)

@2900 second mark, BitJohn discloses that he owns and maintains Mintsy's Twitter site.

http://web.archive.org/web/20150518015224/https:/twitter.com/digitalXmintsy You'll see that the first post was a retweet penned by BigVern.
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November 28, 2015, 05:23:59 PM
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So this whole ordeal is out of my hands since I have limited involvement with the business side of Mintsy, but I thought I would update folks with what I know especially since I promoted it in its early stages. Mintsy is a standalone joint venture between Cryptsy, and DigitalBTC.

Cryptsy was to provide the development DigitalBTC the mining, and hashrate. Without discussing the legal side of this they pulled out the the deal rather abruptly. Leaving everyone in a lurch. I know Paul who is still on the board of directors for Mintsy is trying to find another partner/provider, and then find a way to refund or recover lost work for those that had contracts.

I did find this article and I can only assume it may be related.
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/digitalbtc-reports-6-77-million-first-year-net-loss-management-nonetheless-bullish/

About all I know at this time. If I can find out more I will post it.

Be nice if there was a bit more transparency then. Mintsy.co is still signing up new people, there is zero indication of any issues on the front page and I've been told refunds are not an option. To me looks an awful lot like a scam that took several hundred dollars from me and many others I'm sure.

I asked about the new signups you cant actually buy a contract at this time. Still no word on a new provider since DigitalBTC pulled out of Mintsy. Has anyone written to DigitalBTC?

Any chance you could push for some movement on refunds waiting for 100% to be back on line could be anytime and later than sooner only going to cause more problems. Do you have any influence on refunds or just part of programming coding and promoting though cryptsy thought where related to crypto?

I can talk to Paul some of it is in legal limbo at the moment I am guessing. Its like going to dinner with a buddy and having him walk out sticking you with the check. I do think something needs to be done sooner rather than later so ill address it with him.
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November 28, 2015, 05:28:07 PM
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well if that doesn't put the finger on Cryptsy what will ?

And i oooooooh so love that part in one of the pictures where it says NO FUD'ing allowed   HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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ahahahahaha

hahahah

HA !

Dick heads set up scams.. cry fud.
run away.
do it again.

round and round we go ..

it makes me sick hearing this scammy losers cry FUD over and over.
And then how the greedy morons who couldn't care less if something is a ponzi scam
simply run with it ..chanting FUD !

Crypto is a joke.
It's infested with maggots lying their ass off 24/7
and.. crying FUD all the way to the bank $$$

Drown fuckin' rats.

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November 28, 2015, 07:32:29 PM
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Intresting reading here yet the claims hes owns or so and then denies it. Well I lost a little but not much I got a fair share of coins from mining that did prove to be about 80% ratio so not much lost. But their support is still open but site down and no word.

Seems that no word ever happened from Paul that BitJhon said would happen in previous posts and quotes above. And cryptsy owning and pulling out then other pulling out seems little odd when things go tits up all turn on each other or have no knowledge of what is really going on. Think it is safe to say no matter what mining corp comes along all leads to total BS and people losing out. I know for one thing I am keeping to one and one only when prices are good. Eobot despite how small it is and growing has out lived all other cloud mining company and actually continue to add new hardware and so forth but fees are shocking so not worth it. Only thing to do is just to buy coin hold for the future and fuck this type of crap off.

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I stopped using Cryptsy ages ago, at least a year. Has it gotten worse?

*Disclosure. I own shares in this company. Smiley


DigitalBTC Makes History With Australian Stock Market Debut.
http://www.coindesk.com/digitalbtc-makes-history-australian-stock-market-debut/

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Australian multi-service bitcoin company digitalBTC will make history today as the first bitcoin-focused company to trade on a major mainstream stock exchange.

It's a very interesting story. They have already mined at least 5100 BTC, and have said they want to release a BTC debit card, and create applications that use BTC. http://www.digitalbtc.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/03/digitalBTC-Trading-and-Market-Update.pdf
The executive chairman of the company Zhenya Tsvetnenko has already enjoyed significant success in other tech ventures.
http://au.linkedin.com/in/zhenyatsvetnenko

I can forward the publicly available Investor Presentation to anyone who would like to see it (can't seem to find a link on their website.
http://www.digitalbtc.com/

Added in edit:

Apologies. I missed that there was already a thread on this. Can a Mod please merge my post. Thank you

http://digitalxmintsy.com.w3snoop.com/

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digitalxmintsy.com whois information
Domain Name: DIGITALXMINTSY.COM
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Registrant Name: Fab Rodriguez
Registrant Organization: digitalBTC
Name Server: NS65.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS66.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned

Fabricio "Fab" Rodriguez is also the Registrant Name for coin.org, digitalx.com and digitalbtc.com.
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November 28, 2015, 10:29:00 PM
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So who is actually owning or has shares in mintsy then would this be pointing to Digital even tho have said they have nothing to do with it. Anyone got any detective stuff that shows them commenting having shares or partnership or involvement in. Lot of stuff being posted already love it when a community works together and puts all the stuff down in one thread. Keep it up as I am going to be putting a case forward to whoever owns or part of it and taking relevant action against them and to see what happens if anything. I doubt much will happen but no harm in trying. Least if something does happen then am sure many who where in this will be happy maybe get some refund but as the old saying goes, time will tell in this matter but 90% fact no refund will happen.


Updates maybe they are changing servers but who knows.

mintsy.co - Resolving failed
Error code 22
The proxy failed to resolve site from host name, if this site was recently added please allow a few minutes before trying again.

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November 28, 2015, 11:12:22 PM
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So who is actually owning or has shares in mintsy then would this be pointing to Digital even tho have said they have nothing to do with it. Anyone got any detective stuff that shows them commenting having shares or partnership or involvement in. Lot of stuff being posted already love it when a community works together and puts all the stuff down in one thread. Keep it up as I am going to be putting a case forward to whoever owns or part of it and taking relevant action against them and to see what happens if anything. I doubt much will happen but no harm in trying. Least if something does happen then am sure many who where in this will be happy maybe get some refund but as the old saying goes, time will tell in this matter but 90% fact no refund will happen.


Updates maybe they are changing servers but who knows.

mintsy.co - Resolving failed
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http://www.zdnet.com/article/digital-cc-ditches-bitcoin-rebrands-to-digital-x/

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Earlier this month, Digital X told shareholders that it had terminated its Mintsy joint-venture agreement, citing ongoing concerns it held with Mintsy and the company's inability to meet its contractual requirements.

"Under such circumstances, [Digital CC] had no choice other than to terminate its role and relevant interests under the agreement," executive chairman Zhenya Tsvetnenko said at the time.

I'll repeat, the key players behind Mintsy were Paul Vernon and BitJohn, with Paul having all the related domain names in his name.

http://samesites.com/www/mintsy.com

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The domain name has registered. TLD (Top level domain) of the domain name is com and SLD (Second level domain) length equals to 6.. It's seems appropriate for SEO and human-memorability. Domain name choosing is important to maximize search engine-referred traffic.

mintsy.com was created by PAUL VERNON on 05/05/2009 . You can contact to domain owner at PAUL@MINTSY.CO . For further raw whois information please take a look at the Whois section.

mintsy.com's A record assigned to 98.124.198.1 . if you want to see such as Name Server, CNAME, MX etc. please look at the DNS section.
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So who is actually owning or has shares in mintsy then would this be pointing to Digital even tho have said they have nothing to do with it. Anyone got any detective stuff that shows them commenting having shares or partnership or involvement in. Lot of stuff being posted already love it when a community works together and puts all the stuff down in one thread. Keep it up as I am going to be putting a case forward to whoever owns or part of it and taking relevant action against them and to see what happens if anything. I doubt much will happen but no harm in trying. Least if something does happen then am sure many who where in this will be happy maybe get some refund but as the old saying goes, time will tell in this matter but 90% fact no refund will happen.


Updates maybe they are changing servers but who knows.

mintsy.co - Resolving failed
Error code 22
The proxy failed to resolve site from host name, if this site was recently added please allow a few minutes before trying again.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/digital-cc-ditches-bitcoin-rebrands-to-digital-x/

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Earlier this month, Digital X told shareholders that it had terminated its Mintsy joint-venture agreement, citing ongoing concerns it held with Mintsy and the company's inability to meet its contractual requirements.

"Under such circumstances, [Digital CC] had no choice other than to terminate its role and relevant interests under the agreement," executive chairman Zhenya Tsvetnenko said at the time.

I'll repeat, the key players behind Mintsy were Paul Vernon and BitJohn, with Paul having all the related domain names in his name.

http://samesites.com/www/mintsy.com

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The domain name has registered. TLD (Top level domain) of the domain name is com and SLD (Second level domain) length equals to 6.. It's seems appropriate for SEO and human-memorability. Domain name choosing is important to maximize search engine-referred traffic.

mintsy.com was created by PAUL VERNON on 05/05/2009 . You can contact to domain owner at PAUL@MINTSY.CO . For further raw whois information please take a look at the Whois section.

mintsy.com's A record assigned to 98.124.198.1 . if you want to see such as Name Server, CNAME, MX etc. please look at the DNS section.

Thanks Gleb. Have had a long day and half asleep here reading from top to bottom and reading though it all I know that BitJohn did say would contact Paul but that was that and heard nothing more of it so am guessing theirs been no contact made. sent another email over to DigitalBTC and seeing what they have to comment on if anything or going to stick to their guns and not admit anything.

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http://www.coindesk.com/digitalbtc-buys-10-1m-in-bitcoin-in-q2-2015/

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Australian cryptocurrency firm DigitalBTC bought $10.1m worth of bitcoin in Q2 of this year, the company's latest quarterly report reveals.

This brings the amount of bitcoin the company has purchased over the past 12 months to almost $29.7m.

The report also shows DigitalBTC – the first crypto firm to list on Australian Securities Exchange (ASX), under Digital CC Limited – closed the quarter with an inventory of $1m in bitcoin.

Nevertheless, the company reported a negative operating cashflow of $1.2m in Q2 of 2015 having received around $10.8m for operating activities, but spending close to $12m.

Expansion

Initially a bitcoin mining company, DigitalBTC has so far expanded into bitcoin trading as well as developing both retail and consumer applications.

The company's private liquidity platform digitalX Direct achieved unaudited revenues of $5.5m in the quarter, which is a 45% increase on the revenue generated in the first quarter of the year.

Over the past three months, the company has been exploring an additional venture into the global remittances market with a soon-to-launch peer-to-peer solution called AirPocket.

"This enables value and cash transfers from anyone to anywhere in the world, and for the value to be easily exchanged across mobile messaging platforms," the report states.

The company aims to initially roll out AirPocket in Latin America and the Caribbean using $3.5m raised through a share placement.

Back in February, Digital CC Limited announced it had suffered a net loss of $2.3m after tax in the six-month period leading up to 31st December 2014.
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So what their saying is they dropped their project fucked every customer off to gain even tho their making claims that they where in negative figures. Find that hard to believe if their working on other projects and more software projected and aiming at with their current project. Sounds more to me used it as a way to feed other project make bull shit up and shaft everyone in the process of it. Once got enough findings put together am sure will be hearing from my legal representatives at recovering my funds put into it and also fees added on top due to them causing me to lose out. Right now just on the gathering information and also finding out is what in terms of grounds I have to submit a case against them.

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So what their saying is they dropped their project fucked every customer off to gain even tho their making claims that they where in negative figures. Find that hard to believe if their working on other projects and more software projected and aiming at with their current project. Sounds more to me used it as a way to feed other project make bull shit up and shaft everyone in the process of it. Once got enough findings put together am sure will be hearing from my legal representatives at recovering my funds put into it and also fees added on top due to them causing me to lose out. Right now just on the gathering information and also finding out is what in terms of grounds I have to submit a case against them.

http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20140930/pdf/42sl7g0b8y66m4.pdf



Translated (by example):

"Hello, prospective investors. We're new to this space, but due to our track record which is an open book, I'm sure you'll agree that we'll have no problem making any shareholders happy.

Here's our plan.

Give us your money, and we'll make widgets.

<Three months later.>

Hello, everybody. Here's our report.

We've made 7,200 widgets, sold them all, and put the net amount in our back, now having one of the largest bank deposit in all of Australia.

<Months later.>

Oopsies! We's operated at a lost, but these things happens as you savvy Investards well know.

Meanwhile, we're getting out of the widget business, and back into the SMS business, but instead of sending text, you'll be sending moneys around the world, which we'll be the entity in the middle making it all happen.

Here's how it'll work.

There are over seven billion people on the planet, and they all love money. But, some are in countries that don't have much per capital. That's where you and I come in. Send me your money and I will send it to those who have a hard time getting money, taking a very small cut for providing the - let's call it remittance - service.

We've already starting building the hardware and software using moneys from our failed widget business. Did I mention we sold 7,200 of them things during the first three months?

God speed!"

BTW, that $4M cash investment mentioned in the pic above to procure miners is bullshit because they got the miners free from BitFury, paying them later via payments, ergo no up-front moneys there.

And, you'll love the part where DirectBTC/X is now hooked up with the CoinX exchange to facilitate their current venture.

You'll also love the part where Alex[ander] Karis is a con artist from way back.

Apologies if this post pissed you off so much that you won't be able to jack off for a couple days due to being too depressed, but be happy to learnt I picked up your slack when I uncovering the news that crypto-themed periodicals continue to fail to cover. HAHAHA

One more thing: Supposedly, DirectBTC had $300K+ USD on Mt Gox, so they used that amount as an asset when seeking funding for their new business. I say that if they tried hard enough, they could of found dead relatives who invested in tulips and are still awaiting a return, declaring any expenditure there also as an asset.
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