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December 08, 2015, 08:11:31 PM
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Fox News Wants Your Kids to Charge at Active Shooters

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According to the FBI, the first two things your kids should attempt in any active shooting situation are 1) run or, if that’s not possible, 2) hide. According to Fox & Friends, Little Johnny needs to stand his goddamn ground.

In a segment earlier today, Elizabeth Hasselbeck brought on two martial arts instructors who have apparently been busy teaching children the art of running at active shooters. But as Media Matters points out, never once does anyone explain that staying to fight should be an absolute last resort.

Hesselbeck starts by noting that “in an active shooter situation, five seconds can mean the difference between life and death. But there are some things you can do and your children can do to make a difference.”

She then asks trainer Tony Morrison (not that Toni Morrison) whether “we need to be having this conversation.” Tony replies:

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Well, we can’t make our kids ignorant about the fact that the world is a dangerous place right now.... We start by telling them what kinds of things to look for, to be more vigilant, to start paying attention to their surroundings, and we call it situational awareness.

When Tony’s assistant successfully disarms him of his stapler, Elizabeth remarks on the fact that she then “turned and used some moves on him.” So if your school-age child manages to somehow approach and steal an active shooter’s gun, should they then keep pummeling the presumably enraged murderer—or should they run?:

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Once you engage the gunman, you have to—you have to just take him out. You have to fight strong. So you’re not actually going to try and get away until you actually make sure that you’ve done some damage to him. Because if you don’t, then he’ll just pursue you.

“Once you engage the gunman, you have to take him out” is a “stop, drop, and roll” for a new generation of American children.

If you really want to keep your children as safe as possible, don’t ever let them watch Fox & Friends.

[h/t Media Matters]

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December 08, 2015, 08:24:55 PM
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I can't decide if this is completely irresponsible or just plain stupid. Although we should teach people to be ready to fight for their lives, if it is necessary, I don't think this is the way to teach our young ones. If we want them to stay alive that is.
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December 09, 2015, 01:38:21 AM
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Fox News Wants Your Kids to Charge at Active Shooters
 According to Fox & Friends, Little Johnny needs to stand his goddamn ground.

In a segment earlier today, Elizabeth Hasselbeck brought on two martial arts instructors who have apparently been busy teaching children the art of running at active shooters.
heroism doesnt work in the real world, what kids should be taught when confronted is to run the fuck away; without at least military level hand to hand combat training youre more than likely to die against anything as dangerous as a knife.

I can't decide if this is completely irresponsible or just plain stupid. Although we should teach people to be ready to fight for their lives, if it is necessary, I don't think this is the way to teach our young ones. If we want them to stay alive that is.
fight or flight is a basic instinct, and fox is trying to teach these kids that flight shouldnt be considered; theyre telling kids to run to their deaths.

then again, anyone with a quarter of a brain should know that fox is a joke of a station.

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December 09, 2015, 02:58:32 PM
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Fox News Wants Your Kids to Charge at Active Shooters
 According to Fox & Friends, Little Johnny needs to stand his goddamn ground.

In a segment earlier today, Elizabeth Hasselbeck brought on two martial arts instructors who have apparently been busy teaching children the art of running at active shooters.
heroism doesnt work in the real world, what kids should be taught when confronted is to run the fuck away; without at least military level hand to hand combat training youre more than likely to die against anything as dangerous as a knife.

I can't decide if this is completely irresponsible or just plain stupid. Although we should teach people to be ready to fight for their lives, if it is necessary, I don't think this is the way to teach our young ones. If we want them to stay alive that is.
fight or flight is a basic instinct, and fox is trying to teach these kids that flight shouldnt be considered; theyre telling kids to run to their deaths.

then again, anyone with a quarter of a brain should know that fox is a joke of a station.

Standard military training is that an engagement distance of less than twenty feet, a gun is equal, not superior, to a knife.    Granted this is military (or martial arts) training, but there are numerous cases where a gunman has been swarmed by his supposed victims.

There are also numerous cases where a gunman has been presented with a large number of nice, cowardly targets to take shots at.
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December 09, 2015, 03:02:08 PM
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Just make sure your kid is armed to the hilt.   Smiley

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December 09, 2015, 04:27:02 PM
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Just make sure your kid is armed to the hilt.   Smiley
I'm not opposed to that.  But I'm probably a minority voice....

On the issue of "rushing the bad guy,"  given the attitude of school teachers and administrators, why is it I feel certain they would be cowering in the back, while urging on the kids on the front lines?
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