War on Terrorism and the media induced hysteria !!!

[nichu]

Since 2001 we have being hearing this term TERROR, who is terrorizing whom, is this a war against any particular country, state or individual.
To fully understand the meaning of the term "WAR ON TERROR" coined by George Bush took me several years to understand.Even then i had a difficulty understanding whether it is a political agenda or a humanitarian issue. Yes terrorism should be wiped out for sure . But how do we do that .Is it the american way ,hell no, US has being chasing a ghost forever draining out trillions of dollars ,human causalities worldwide, i don't have a statistics regarding that but its really high and we are nearing 2016 ,almost 15 LONG YEARS of so called WAR ON TERROR and what do we have now .We are facing more terror than there was in the beginning.

So how does the american policy changed the world we live now. if we look at the statistics of that we are sure we will get the answer regarding that. here is the list of question i wanted to ask

1. how often have u heard about suicide bombers prior to 2001, probably only a few once a few months around the globe to once every week since 2002
2. Demolished Iraq, libiya ,syria ,i dont want to mention afghanistan because it was already in deep trouble with the help of US 
3. The war literally started against al qaeda and continuing in the name of ISIS why did they create both in the first place, to showcase their agenda. to literally rule the entire oil fields, there were bloody greater problems in africa, no one seemed interested cause they dont have anything to gain ?
4. The media is selling the war properly. they are influencing our conscious and subconscious minds to influence our opinions and behavior.
Everything we heard about Iraq libya syria turned out to be false.

i am writing this post as i have seen many threads regarding religion , terrorism and i have seen many people amalgamating things.
Infact there are many things to be said but i dont want you to be bored reading everything. if there is anything that should be heard or may be if  u want to have a debate i am ready for it



PS: I started writing about this two hours ago, but was distracted in the middle as one of my friend is leaving for brazil today ,he came down to see me and while he left i was stranded out from my flat as i forgot to take my key. had to break in after half hours of struggle to open the door. i am a little bit stressed bcos of that i couldnt complete or write down everything i started writing in the first place..
will talk about it later down the thread

[bitsmichel]

1. how often have u heard about suicide bombers prior to 2001, probably only a few once a few months around the globe to once every week since 2002

Unreported does not mean it did not occur. A lot of stories are censored.

3. The war literally started against al qaeda and continuing in the name of ISIS why did they create both in the first place, to showcase their agenda. to literally rule the entire oil fields, there were bloody greater problems in africa, no one seemed interested cause they dont have anything to gain ?

Al qaeda was not created by the United States.  Al qaeda was fighting the Soviet Union several decades ago. After the Soviet Union fell, they started to attack us.

[nichu]

1. how often have u heard about suicide bombers prior to 2001, probably only a few once a few months around the globe to once every week since 2002

Unreported does not mean it did not occur. A lot of stories are censored.

3. The war literally started against al qaeda and continuing in the name of ISIS why did they create both in the first place, to showcase their agenda. to literally rule the entire oil fields, there were bloody greater problems in africa, no one seemed interested cause they dont have anything to gain ?

Al qaeda was not created by the United States.  Al qaeda was fighting the Soviet Union several decades ago. After the Soviet Union fell, they started to attack us.

Then how did they form in the first place, are they afghan rebels. how did they get weapons, did they mine or dig up weapons or russia handed them over before coming in .. just explain me this

[bitsmichel]

1. how often have u heard about suicide bombers prior to 2001, probably only a few once a few months around the globe to once every week since 2002

Unreported does not mean it did not occur. A lot of stories are censored.

3. The war literally started against al qaeda and continuing in the name of ISIS why did they create both in the first place, to showcase their agenda. to literally rule the entire oil fields, there were bloody greater problems in africa, no one seemed interested cause they dont have anything to gain ?

Al qaeda was not created by the United States.  Al qaeda was fighting the Soviet Union several decades ago. After the Soviet Union fell, they started to attack us.

Then how did they form in the first place, are they afghan rebels. how did they get weapons, did they mine or dig up weapons or russia handed them over before coming in .. just explain me this

The US government supported them with weapons during the cold war, because they were fighting against the soviet union.  They had additional funding from criminal activities (drugs, extortion), single person donations, saudi arabia and others.

However, the war on terror program is created by the US. Terror has existed for a long time, but my country did not have to deal with it a lot unlike others.

[nichu]

1. how often have u heard about suicide bombers prior to 2001, probably only a few once a few months around the globe to once every week since 2002

Unreported does not mean it did not occur. A lot of stories are censored.

3. The war literally started against al qaeda and continuing in the name of ISIS why did they create both in the first place, to showcase their agenda. to literally rule the entire oil fields, there were bloody greater problems in africa, no one seemed interested cause they dont have anything to gain ?

Al qaeda was not created by the United States.  Al qaeda was fighting the Soviet Union several decades ago. After the Soviet Union fell, they started to attack us.

Then how did they form in the first place, are they afghan rebels. how did they get weapons, did they mine or dig up weapons or russia handed them over before coming in .. just explain me this

The US government supported them with weapons during the cold war, because they were fighting against the soviet union.  They had additional funding from criminal activities (drugs, extortion), single person donations, saudi arabia and others.

However, the war on terror program is created by the US. Terror has existed for a long time, but my country did not have to deal with it a lot unlike others.

so how can u tell that US didnt create al qaeda and made it powerful. let me ask u one thing, why did they want to support and promote that group to fight against USSR

[bryant.coleman]

Al qaeda was not created by the United States.  Al qaeda was fighting the Soviet Union several decades ago. After the Soviet Union fell, they started to attack us.

Al Qaeda was an Arab extremist organization which was created by the CIA, to supplement the local Afghan Mujaheddin. The Al Qaeda operatives received intense training from the American military instructors, and 100% of their equipment came from the United States. The US even transported the Al Qaeda terrorists from Saudi Arabia to Afghanistan.

[Spendulus]

Al qaeda was not created by the United States.  Al qaeda was fighting the Soviet Union several decades ago. After the Soviet Union fell, they started to attack us.

Al Qaeda was an Arab extremist organization which was created by the CIA, to supplement the local Afghan Mujaheddin. The Al Qaeda operatives received intense training from the American military instructors, and 100% of their equipment came from the United States. The US even transported the Al Qaeda terrorists from Saudi Arabia to Afghanistan.

This basically untrue.  You quote facts but assign them meanings substantially different than they had at the time events were unfolding.  Here is Wikipedia on Al Queda -



Toward the end of the Soviet military mission in Afghanistan, some mujahideen wanted to expand their operations to include Islamist struggles in other parts of the world, such as Israel and Kashmir. A number of overlapping and interrelated organizations were formed, to further those aspirations.

One of these was the organization that would eventually be called al-Qaeda, formed by bin Laden with an initial meeting held on August 11, 1988.[110][111]

Notes of a meeting of bin Laden and others on August 20, 1988, indicate al-Qaeda was a formal group by that time: "basically an organized Islamic faction, its goal is to lift the word of God, to make His religion victorious." A list of requirements for membership itemized the following: listening ability, good manners, obedience, and making a pledge (bayat) to follow one's superiors.[112]

In his memoir, bin Laden's former bodyguard, Nasser al-Bahri, gives the only publicly available description of the ritual of giving bayat when he swore his allegiance to the al-Qaeda chief.[113]

According to Wright, the group's real name wasn't used in public pronouncements because "its existence was still a closely held secret."[114] His research suggests that al-Qaeda was formed at an August 11, 1988, meeting between "several senior leaders" of Egyptian Islamic Jihad, Abdullah Azzam, and bin Laden, where it was agreed to join bin Laden's money with the expertise of the Islamic Jihad organization and take up the jihadist cause elsewhere after the Soviets withdrew from Afghanistan.[115]

Bin Laden wished to establish non-military operations in other parts of the world; Azzam, in contrast, wanted to remain focused on military campaigns. After Azzam was assassinated in 1989, the MAK split, with a significant number joining bin Laden's organization.

[criptix]

Al qaeda was not created by the United States.  Al qaeda was fighting the Soviet Union several decades ago. After the Soviet Union fell, they started to attack us.

Al Qaeda was an Arab extremist organization which was created by the CIA, to supplement the local Afghan Mujaheddin. The Al Qaeda operatives received intense training from the American military instructors, and 100% of their equipment came from the United States. The US even transported the Al Qaeda terrorists from Saudi Arabia to Afghanistan.

This basically untrue.  You quote facts but assign them meanings substantially different than they had at the time events were unfolding.  Here is Wikipedia on Al Queda -



Toward the end of the Soviet military mission in Afghanistan, some mujahideen wanted to expand their operations to include Islamist struggles in other parts of the world, such as Israel and Kashmir. A number of overlapping and interrelated organizations were formed, to further those aspirations.

One of these was the organization that would eventually be called al-Qaeda, formed by bin Laden with an initial meeting held on August 11, 1988.[110][111]

Notes of a meeting of bin Laden and others on August 20, 1988, indicate al-Qaeda was a formal group by that time: "basically an organized Islamic faction, its goal is to lift the word of God, to make His religion victorious." A list of requirements for membership itemized the following: listening ability, good manners, obedience, and making a pledge (bayat) to follow one's superiors.[112]

In his memoir, bin Laden's former bodyguard, Nasser al-Bahri, gives the only publicly available description of the ritual of giving bayat when he swore his allegiance to the al-Qaeda chief.[113]

According to Wright, the group's real name wasn't used in public pronouncements because "its existence was still a closely held secret."[114] His research suggests that al-Qaeda was formed at an August 11, 1988, meeting between "several senior leaders" of Egyptian Islamic Jihad, Abdullah Azzam, and bin Laden, where it was agreed to join bin Laden's money with the expertise of the Islamic Jihad organization and take up the jihadist cause elsewhere after the Soviets withdrew from Afghanistan.[115]

Bin Laden wished to establish non-military operations in other parts of the world; Azzam, in contrast, wanted to remain focused on military campaigns. After Azzam was assassinated in 1989, the MAK split, with a significant number joining bin Laden's organization.

Not sure if he just dont understand/think he understands correct or is a straight lier.

He does that pretty much permanently.
From shooting icbms at ships to multi million refugees that in reality dont exist.

i.e.: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1288345.msg13299979#msg13299979


Imo that guy seems to be a sig-spammer.

[ausbit]

1. how often have u heard about suicide bombers prior to 2001, probably only a few once a few months around the globe to once every week since 2002

Unreported does not mean it did not occur. A lot of stories are censored.

3. The war literally started against al qaeda and continuing in the name of ISIS why did they create both in the first place, to showcase their agenda. to literally rule the entire oil fields, there were bloody greater problems in africa, no one seemed interested cause they dont have anything to gain ?

Al qaeda was not created by the United States.  Al qaeda was fighting the Soviet Union several decades ago. After the Soviet Union fell, they started to attack us.

Then how did they form in the first place, are they afghan rebels. how did they get weapons, did they mine or dig up weapons or russia handed them over before coming in .. just explain me this

The US government supported them with weapons during the cold war, because they were fighting against the soviet union.  They had additional funding from criminal activities (drugs, extortion), single person donations, saudi arabia and others.

However, the war on terror program is created by the US. Terror has existed for a long time, but my country did not have to deal with it a lot unlike others.

so how can u tell that US didnt create al qaeda and made it powerful. let me ask u one thing, why did they want to support and promote that group to fight against USSR

Al Qaeda is totally created by united states, it is a kind of marketing of their ammunition, guns military forces bunkers etc. We have see the logic of any war. Why and how it happened. Media plays a great role on this war sometime gives fuel n fire on any small issues and sometimes they sleep even any big things happens because they gets the money not to show the facts and some times due to fear they don't telecast the exact news. And one more things when US stopped giving funds or ammunition to AL Qaeda. They became enemy. ISis is playing same role as al Qaeda.

[bryant.coleman]

And one more things when US stopped giving funds or ammunition to AL Qaeda. They became enemy. ISis is playing same role as al Qaeda.

After the disintegration of the Soviet Union, the military significance of Al Qaeda was reduced to near-Zero. The Americans had no use with them. They were used in a few other regions such as Bosnia and Algeria, but the CIA soon found out that the Jihadis can no longer be controlled by them. So they started to liquidate the organization, which didn't worked out that well.