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January 01, 2016, 03:39:23 PM
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 Fri Jan 1, 2016 7:33am EST

(Reuters) -- Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan, who is pushing for executive powers, cites Hitler's Germany as an example of an effective presidential system, in comments broadcast by Turkish media on Friday.

Erdogan wants to change the Turkish constitution to turn the ceremonial role of president into that of a chief executive, a Turkish version of the system in the United States, France or Russia.

Asked on his return from a visit to Saudi Arabia late on Thursday whether an executive presidential system was possible while maintaining the unitary structure of the state, he said: "There are already examples in the world. You can see it when you look at Hitler's Germany.

"There are later examples in various other countries," he told reporters, according to a recording broadcast by the Dogan news agency.

The ruling AK Party, founded by Erdogan, has put a new constitution at the heart of its agenda after winning back a majority in a November parliamentary election.

It agreed with the main opposition CHP on Wednesday to revive efforts to forge a new constitution.

Opposition parties agree on the need to change the constitution, drawn up after a 1980 coup and still bearing the stamp of its military authors, but do not back the presidential system envisaged by Erdogan, fearing it will consolidate too much power in the hands of an authoritarian leader.

(Reporting by Asli Kandemir; Writing by Nick Tattersall; Editing by Louise Ireland)

http://www.reuters.com/article/turkey-erdogan-hitler-idUKKBN0UF1T320160101

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January 01, 2016, 06:57:48 PM
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Erdogan is dangerous, It's coming to the point to see if Turkey is really a reliable NATO ally. Coordinating intel with the barbarians in Syria,not closing the border, going after the Kurds- now he likes Hitler's form of government?

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January 01, 2016, 07:12:37 PM
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No, he fits in perfectly. It´s an organization without any responsibility, accountability or morals for that matter. Fascists usually aren´t overly concerned about other fascists, especially if it´s allies.

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January 01, 2016, 07:59:41 PM
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hahaha as a turk im laughing now .. erdogan = hitler.

edit:it is not irony im serious
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January 01, 2016, 08:07:01 PM
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Erdogan is a former football player, some degree of stupidity is ok for people of this kind.
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January 01, 2016, 08:08:42 PM
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One thing is for absolutely sure: Garbage media and other fruitcakes that are constantly worried about the new and next Hitler here and there, won´t see any of that in this Erdogan guy, especially since he mentions how great a model Hitler is.

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January 01, 2016, 08:13:37 PM
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More funny thing here is that Hitler's Germany was not a presidential republic. Hindenburg died in 1934 and presidential office was vacant since this time until Hitler's death. The institution of presidential power was defunct during his rule.


P.S. Maybe he tried to say that he's going to commit suicide? Dead Erdogan ~= dead Hindenburg, almost perfectly matches with the German version of successful presidential system.
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January 01, 2016, 08:32:17 PM
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He´s talking about a chief-executive, a sort of strongman, in today´s more or less fake democracies and draws  comparison from Hitler in that context. It´s a valid point to some degree but probably not for the reason that he intended.


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January 01, 2016, 09:41:02 PM
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Erdogan sold billions of dollars worth government owned properties, and companies, and pocketed all the money. "Then he bought western media and politician with this money"
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January 10, 2016, 03:02:42 PM
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Fri Jan 1, 2016 7:33am EST

(Reuters) -- Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan, who is pushing for executive powers, cites Hitler's Germany as an example of an effective presidential system, in comments broadcast by Turkish media on Friday.

Erdogan wants to change the Turkish constitution to turn the ceremonial role of president into that of a chief executive, a Turkish version of the system in the United States, France or Russia.

Asked on his return from a visit to Saudi Arabia late on Thursday whether an executive presidential system was possible while maintaining the unitary structure of the state, he said: "There are already examples in the world. You can see it when you look at Hitler's Germany.

"There are later examples in various other countries," he told reporters, according to a recording broadcast by the Dogan news agency.

The ruling AK Party, founded by Erdogan, has put a new constitution at the heart of its agenda after winning back a majority in a November parliamentary election.

It agreed with the main opposition CHP on Wednesday to revive efforts to forge a new constitution.

Opposition parties agree on the need to change the constitution, drawn up after a 1980 coup and still bearing the stamp of its military authors, but do not back the presidential system envisaged by Erdogan, fearing it will consolidate too much power in the hands of an authoritarian leader.

(Reporting by Asli Kandemir; Writing by Nick Tattersall; Editing by Louise Ireland)

http://www.reuters.com/article/turkey-erdogan-hitler-idUKKBN0UF1T320160101

As  turkish citizens, we are ruled by a hitler like president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan..  he wants to have all the powers.. he dont believe in seperations of power like Hitler for these reasons, he makes hitler his idol and desires to turn Turkey a racist , ruled by dictatorship country. hitler and recep tayyip erdogan share same goals..  both of them have evil mind..

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January 10, 2016, 03:12:40 PM
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Erdogan wants to change the Turkish constitution to turn the ceremonial role of president into that of a chief executive, a Turkish version of the system in the United States, France or Russia.
Russia and France aren't implementing the presidential system, but rather semi-presidential.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-presidential_system
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January 10, 2016, 08:13:30 PM
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Erdogan seems like he has good humor approach.
I mean I don't think he would say something like that in serious tonne.
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January 11, 2016, 12:15:43 AM
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Erdogan seems like he has good humor approach.
I mean I don't think he would say something like that in serious tonne.

Yeah well, the graveyards of the world are full of people that didn´t think that this nutcase or that in power here and there

could really be serious.

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January 11, 2016, 02:55:46 AM
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Fri Jan 1, 2016 7:33am EST

(Reuters) -- Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan, who is pushing for executive powers, cites Hitler's Germany as an example of an effective presidential system, in comments broadcast by Turkish media on Friday.

Erdogan wants to change the Turkish constitution to turn the ceremonial role of president into that of a chief executive, a Turkish version of the system in the United States, France or Russia.

Asked on his return from a visit to Saudi Arabia late on Thursday whether an executive presidential system was possible while maintaining the unitary structure of the state, he said: "There are already examples in the world. You can see it when you look at Hitler's Germany.

"There are later examples in various other countries," he told reporters, according to a recording broadcast by the Dogan news agency.

The ruling AK Party, founded by Erdogan, has put a new constitution at the heart of its agenda after winning back a majority in a November parliamentary election.

It agreed with the main opposition CHP on Wednesday to revive efforts to forge a new constitution.

Opposition parties agree on the need to change the constitution, drawn up after a 1980 coup and still bearing the stamp of its military authors, but do not back the presidential system envisaged by Erdogan, fearing it will consolidate too much power in the hands of an authoritarian leader.

(Reporting by Asli Kandemir; Writing by Nick Tattersall; Editing by Louise Ireland)

http://www.reuters.com/article/turkey-erdogan-hitler-idUKKBN0UF1T320160101

As  turkish citizens, we are ruled by a hitler like president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan..  he wants to have all the powers.. he dont believe in seperations of power like Hitler for these reasons, he makes hitler his idol and desires to turn Turkey a racist , ruled by dictatorship country. hitler and recep tayyip erdogan share same goals..  both of them have evil mind..

i  agree with you. R. Tayip Erdogan want to be A.Hitler.! he is a dictator.!
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