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February 01, 2016, 05:48:24 AM
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That is how the s5 temps usually are I wouldn't worry too much about the difference. I would underclock it to get it under 70 max temp. When adjusting clock or airflow always use the higher temp as the actual temp.

EDIT: Got a picture of the top and how a fan is sucking air out?

The only thing is I'm guessing he is still having winter weather.  OP is that correct? I could be wrong.   But if 74c is with winter weather he really needs to solve it a little more before summer heat's up.

I'm still thinking he might need a fan or something to push air.  I'm thinking in a box with vent's likely is not moving hot air away from miner.  One PC fan is not moving much air.  I'm talking about like a box fan or something with decent CFM.
So' I'm in South Eastern Australia: Middle of summer, but currently very mild, only 20C. Likely to be much higher, although it is a little insulated from heat under the house.

I've added a duct to the exhaust fan on the miner:
http://imgur.com/LbTI6iK
(hey, I've now used cable ties AND duct tape! Smiley)

63C now is highest, but its only had a few minutes to warm up

Crash

EDIT: Seems to have settled at 66C

That at least is some improvement the other temperature just is to hot for me to like it personally.    This one still might be a problem when it warms up there.

I really suggest looking at something such as a box fan and push some decent CFM's through it's box.  My mining summer how I got through it was with lot of CFM's from fans.   
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February 01, 2016, 06:05:19 AM
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That is how the s5 temps usually are I wouldn't worry too much about the difference. I would underclock it to get it under 70 max temp. When adjusting clock or airflow always use the higher temp as the actual temp.

EDIT: Got a picture of the top and how a fan is sucking air out?

The only thing is I'm guessing he is still having winter weather.  OP is that correct? I could be wrong.   But if 74c is with winter weather he really needs to solve it a little more before summer heat's up.

I'm still thinking he might need a fan or something to push air.  I'm thinking in a box with vent's likely is not moving hot air away from miner.  One PC fan is not moving much air.  I'm talking about like a box fan or something with decent CFM.
So' I'm in South Eastern Australia: Middle of summer, but currently very mild, only 20C. Likely to be much higher, although it is a little insulated from heat under the house.

I've added a duct to the exhaust fan on the miner:
http://imgur.com/LbTI6iK
(hey, I've now used cable ties AND duct tape! Smiley)

63C now is highest, but its only had a few minutes to warm up

Crash

EDIT: Seems to have settled at 66C
That at least is some improvement the other temperature just is to hot for me to like it personally.    This one still might be a problem when it warms up there.
I really suggest looking at something such as a box fan and push some decent CFM's through it's box.  My mining summer how I got through it was with lot of CFM's from fans.   
You're talking about big, 20-30cm (8-12") type fans aren't you, not little cpu type fans?
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February 01, 2016, 08:13:58 AM
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That is how the s5 temps usually are I wouldn't worry too much about the difference. I would underclock it to get it under 70 max temp. When adjusting clock or airflow always use the higher temp as the actual temp.

EDIT: Got a picture of the top and how a fan is sucking air out?

The only thing is I'm guessing he is still having winter weather.  OP is that correct? I could be wrong.   But if 74c is with winter weather he really needs to solve it a little more before summer heat's up.

I'm still thinking he might need a fan or something to push air.  I'm thinking in a box with vent's likely is not moving hot air away from miner.  One PC fan is not moving much air.  I'm talking about like a box fan or something with decent CFM.
So' I'm in South Eastern Australia: Middle of summer, but currently very mild, only 20C. Likely to be much higher, although it is a little insulated from heat under the house.

I've added a duct to the exhaust fan on the miner:
http://imgur.com/LbTI6iK
(hey, I've now used cable ties AND duct tape! Smiley)

63C now is highest, but its only had a few minutes to warm up

Crash

EDIT: Seems to have settled at 66C
That at least is some improvement the other temperature just is to hot for me to like it personally.    This one still might be a problem when it warms up there.
I really suggest looking at something such as a box fan and push some decent CFM's through it's box.  My mining summer how I got through it was with lot of CFM's from fans.  
You're talking about big, 20-30cm (8-12") type fans aren't you, not little cpu type fans?


I'm saying something like a box fan: http://www.amazon.com/Lasko-3723-20-Inch-Premium-3-SPEED/dp/B000HHJ2I2/ just as a example.  

I just think your box is going to need more air flow then a small computer fan during the hot day's.  I know during summer I had a good amount of watt's in my mining area and I used high CFM fan's and my weather is not great with evaporation cooing.   

And I could be wrong it just seems like from picture it is a decent sized box.  So I turn to bigger fan.
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February 01, 2016, 08:15:53 AM
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Racing along now at 70C, starting to drop (slowly) as night comes on. Ok for mild summer, and def ok for winter but when 40C+ hits...the poor little miner's fkk'd.

Thinking I'm going to have to ditch the box as a bad idea, get a set of wire shelves and work out a different security option. (Wire cable to the shelves perhaps Huh)

Thanks for your advice guys,

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February 01, 2016, 08:34:28 AM
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Racing along now at 70C, starting to drop (slowly) as night comes on. Ok for mild summer, and def ok for winter but when 40C+ hits...the poor little miner's fkk'd.

Thinking I'm going to have to ditch the box as a bad idea, get a set of wire shelves and work out a different security option. (Wire cable to the shelves perhaps Huh)

Thanks for your advice guys,

Crash

If at all possible I would look at inside your house still.   You might need to underclock or something to make it bearable to you.   But I'm not huge fan of under house after thinking about it.  Do you get rain under your house?  Just thinking of environment and setup under house could be hard.

Securing all depends on you honestly.  I know my miners have a alarm system, and cameras.  Is that overkill for most?  Yes chances are it is. But mine is above a garage/crop farm work area.  So it is really to protect both.
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February 01, 2016, 08:55:15 AM
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Racing along now at 70C, starting to drop (slowly) as night comes on. Ok for mild summer, and def ok for winter but when 40C+ hits...the poor little miner's fkk'd.

Thinking I'm going to have to ditch the box as a bad idea, get a set of wire shelves and work out a different security option. (Wire cable to the shelves perhaps Huh)

Thanks for your advice guys,

Crash

If at all possible I would look at inside your house still.   You might need to underclock or something to make it bearable to you.   But I'm not huge fan of under house after thinking about it.  Do you get rain under your house?  Just thinking of environment and setup under house could be hard.

Securing all depends on you honestly.  I know my miners have a alarm system, and cameras.  Is that overkill for most?  Yes chances are it is. But mine is above a garage/crop farm work area.  So it is really to protect both.
Oh yes, the boss  Wink has def made it clear that inside is unacceptable.

I have a garage that I may make use of in the future, it is just too far away from the house for a feasible internet connection. (and so full of cr*p that there's no space). Underhouse is waterproof, but exposed to atmospheric conditions; i.e. humidity, wind, dust  Undecided  Which is why I went the server cabinet (box) option. Advantage for me for underhouse is easy access to internet and power.

As an experiment, and starting point, the location is what the location is; i.e. in the future I may set up in the garage, but as it is about to be demolished, I'm not running power or internet out there. The property is secure, but bad people can always get over fences. Admittedly US$500 is not a big issue for me, but I'd still not loose the miner to theft.

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February 01, 2016, 06:37:03 PM
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Racing along now at 70C, starting to drop (slowly) as night comes on. Ok for mild summer, and def ok for winter but when 40C+ hits...the poor little miner's fkk'd.

Thinking I'm going to have to ditch the box as a bad idea, get a set of wire shelves and work out a different security option. (Wire cable to the shelves perhaps Huh)

Thanks for your advice guys,

Crash

If at all possible I would look at inside your house still.   You might need to underclock or something to make it bearable to you.   But I'm not huge fan of under house after thinking about it.  Do you get rain under your house?  Just thinking of environment and setup under house could be hard.

Securing all depends on you honestly.  I know my miners have a alarm system, and cameras.  Is that overkill for most?  Yes chances are it is. But mine is above a garage/crop farm work area.  So it is really to protect both.
Oh yes, the boss  Wink has def made it clear that inside is unacceptable.

I have a garage that I may make use of in the future, it is just too far away from the house for a feasible internet connection. (and so full of cr*p that there's no space). Underhouse is waterproof, but exposed to atmospheric conditions; i.e. humidity, wind, dust  Undecided  Which is why I went the server cabinet (box) option. Advantage for me for underhouse is easy access to internet and power.

As an experiment, and starting point, the location is what the location is; i.e. in the future I may set up in the garage, but as it is about to be demolished, I'm not running power or internet out there. The property is secure, but bad people can always get over fences. Admittedly US$500 is not a big issue for me, but I'd still not loose the miner to theft.

Crash

And your box may be great for short term.  I just think when you hit the hot day's of summer with so little of fan's its going to heat up and be a pretty harsh condition.  And elements from outside is kinda a pain.  

I'm not sure on your electricity prices.  But if your in the market where S5 level miners are still profitable in future maybe look at Avalon 4.1's.  They are not a huge difference on efficiency I think high 50's instead of low 50's if I remember right.   But they run so quiet underclocked they are the most quiet miners I have used (not including like USB sticks, or old blades, etc just modern miners).  So a big difference from the hot/loud of the S5. But again that all depends on your electricity price if they even make sense at this point.
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February 01, 2016, 08:54:07 PM
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Racing along now at 70C, starting to drop (slowly) as night comes on. Ok for mild summer, and def ok for winter but when 40C+ hits...the poor little miner's fkk'd.

Thinking I'm going to have to ditch the box as a bad idea, get a set of wire shelves and work out a different security option. (Wire cable to the shelves perhaps Huh)

Thanks for your advice guys,

Crash

If at all possible I would look at inside your house still.   You might need to underclock or something to make it bearable to you.   But I'm not huge fan of under house after thinking about it.  Do you get rain under your house?  Just thinking of environment and setup under house could be hard.

Securing all depends on you honestly.  I know my miners have a alarm system, and cameras.  Is that overkill for most?  Yes chances are it is. But mine is above a garage/crop farm work area.  So it is really to protect both.
Oh yes, the boss  Wink has def made it clear that inside is unacceptable.

I have a garage that I may make use of in the future, it is just too far away from the house for a feasible internet connection. (and so full of cr*p that there's no space). Underhouse is waterproof, but exposed to atmospheric conditions; i.e. humidity, wind, dust  Undecided  Which is why I went the server cabinet (box) option. Advantage for me for underhouse is easy access to internet and power.

As an experiment, and starting point, the location is what the location is; i.e. in the future I may set up in the garage, but as it is about to be demolished, I'm not running power or internet out there. The property is secure, but bad people can always get over fences. Admittedly US$500 is not a big issue for me, but I'd still not loose the miner to theft.

Crash

And your box may be great for short term.  I just think when you hit the hot day's of summer with so little of fan's its going to heat up and be a pretty harsh condition.  And elements from outside is kinda a pain.  
Definitely a pain!  Roll Eyes
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February 02, 2016, 07:39:49 AM
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Racing along now at 70C, starting to drop (slowly) as night comes on. Ok for mild summer, and def ok for winter but when 40C+ hits...the poor little miner's fkk'd.

Thinking I'm going to have to ditch the box as a bad idea, get a set of wire shelves and work out a different security option. (Wire cable to the shelves perhaps Huh)

Thanks for your advice guys,

Crash

If at all possible I would look at inside your house still.   You might need to underclock or something to make it bearable to you.   But I'm not huge fan of under house after thinking about it.  Do you get rain under your house?  Just thinking of environment and setup under house could be hard.

Securing all depends on you honestly.  I know my miners have a alarm system, and cameras.  Is that overkill for most?  Yes chances are it is. But mine is above a garage/crop farm work area.  So it is really to protect both.
Oh yes, the boss  Wink has def made it clear that inside is unacceptable.

I have a garage that I may make use of in the future, it is just too far away from the house for a feasible internet connection. (and so full of cr*p that there's no space). Underhouse is waterproof, but exposed to atmospheric conditions; i.e. humidity, wind, dust  Undecided  Which is why I went the server cabinet (box) option. Advantage for me for underhouse is easy access to internet and power.

As an experiment, and starting point, the location is what the location is; i.e. in the future I may set up in the garage, but as it is about to be demolished, I'm not running power or internet out there. The property is secure, but bad people can always get over fences. Admittedly US$500 is not a big issue for me, but I'd still not loose the miner to theft.

Crash

And your box may be great for short term.  I just think when you hit the hot day's of summer with so little of fan's its going to heat up and be a pretty harsh condition.  And elements from outside is kinda a pain.  

I'm not sure on your electricity prices.  But if your in the market where S5 level miners are still profitable in future maybe look at Avalon 4.1's.  They are not a huge difference on efficiency I think high 50's instead of low 50's if I remember right.   But they run so quiet underclocked they are the most quiet miners I have used (not including like USB sticks, or old blades, etc just modern miners).  So a big difference from the hot/loud of the S5. But again that all depends on your electricity price if they even make sense at this point.

So the box has failed. Went to work today, came home and the S5 is at 74C Sad (Still working, but unacceptable).
Grabbed a cheap Wi-Fi extender and switch, and moved the S5 to the garage:
http://imgur.com/7eIRFoz
Late in the day now, still day time though and warm at 25C, and the s5 is plugging along at 58C

Cheers and thanks everyone.

Crash
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February 02, 2016, 08:41:39 AM
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Racing along now at 70C, starting to drop (slowly) as night comes on. Ok for mild summer, and def ok for winter but when 40C+ hits...the poor little miner's fkk'd.

Thinking I'm going to have to ditch the box as a bad idea, get a set of wire shelves and work out a different security option. (Wire cable to the shelves perhaps Huh)

Thanks for your advice guys,

Crash

If at all possible I would look at inside your house still.   You might need to underclock or something to make it bearable to you.   But I'm not huge fan of under house after thinking about it.  Do you get rain under your house?  Just thinking of environment and setup under house could be hard.

Securing all depends on you honestly.  I know my miners have a alarm system, and cameras.  Is that overkill for most?  Yes chances are it is. But mine is above a garage/crop farm work area.  So it is really to protect both.
Oh yes, the boss  Wink has def made it clear that inside is unacceptable.

I have a garage that I may make use of in the future, it is just too far away from the house for a feasible internet connection. (and so full of cr*p that there's no space). Underhouse is waterproof, but exposed to atmospheric conditions; i.e. humidity, wind, dust  Undecided  Which is why I went the server cabinet (box) option. Advantage for me for underhouse is easy access to internet and power.

As an experiment, and starting point, the location is what the location is; i.e. in the future I may set up in the garage, but as it is about to be demolished, I'm not running power or internet out there. The property is secure, but bad people can always get over fences. Admittedly US$500 is not a big issue for me, but I'd still not loose the miner to theft.

Crash

And your box may be great for short term.  I just think when you hit the hot day's of summer with so little of fan's its going to heat up and be a pretty harsh condition.  And elements from outside is kinda a pain.  

I'm not sure on your electricity prices.  But if your in the market where S5 level miners are still profitable in future maybe look at Avalon 4.1's.  They are not a huge difference on efficiency I think high 50's instead of low 50's if I remember right.   But they run so quiet underclocked they are the most quiet miners I have used (not including like USB sticks, or old blades, etc just modern miners).  So a big difference from the hot/loud of the S5. But again that all depends on your electricity price if they even make sense at this point.

So the box has failed. Went to work today, came home and the S5 is at 74C Sad (Still working, but unacceptable).
Grabbed a cheap Wi-Fi extender and switch, and moved the S5 to the garage:
http://imgur.com/7eIRFoz
Late in the day now, still day time though and warm at 25C, and the s5 is plugging along at 58C

Cheers and thanks everyone.

Crash

Yea that is hotter then i would like it.  I think you made a smart move taking it out of box.  Likely will take more CFM's from box fan or something big I think for box idea to work.

Glad it worked out in garage.  Looks like much better setup then the box.
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