The words of OP are a big and strange wonder which cannot become true even if with the adoption of its model be involved all the community of bitcoiners and the people who will accept bitcoin (as it is told at the example at the main post) will be paid over the amount of value of "thing" which will be bought only for accepting the proposed transaction of OP. Leaving aside the mess and the confusion in him's thoughts I am giving below only one of the much probable situations that can be verified only for the first example given by him in which someone else pay a service for you and you pay him with bitcoin for the money spent by him from him's pocket.
Firstly the person who will buy for you the "thing" must be a bitcoiner (and normally cannot be - are to few the bitcoiners) otherwise for what is needed to him the bitcoin which will receive for him's service. He have not even the most little idea what is bitcoin and you can stay with him all the day to give arguments about the beauty of bitcoin and at the end for sure you will have this simple the question: What to do with it?
And if you will tell him that bitcoin one day will have high price he can ask: but you how do you know this? And if you will try to explain him the limit supply of it in market or the halving every four years or the spread of it every day more, he will see you like someone who is came from the moon. You will understand him's thoughts from him's face and will change discussion telling that bitcoin has big value and can be sold at to many exchanges. If you will tell that to have him's money must find a good exchange but needed to give a mountain of documents to be verified, that must be paid "fat" fees and that to change must have much more than the bitcoin had from you (which have paid to pay the everyday bread) because those are to few and go all for the fees he for sure will make the most normal question: why to make all these things when I can pay with my credit card and everything end within seconds.
A wall of text that makes no sense at all.
You saying a person who use this service, has to be a bitcoiner? You get a lot of people who have been unbanked by banks, who would use this service and some users that ran into difficulties with other services like PayPal, but still need to buy something. I have only mentioned a few of the examples, why people might want to use this service, there is much more.
When someone blocks you from using your credit card or your PayPal account, what other options do you have? Currently there are very limited options and a service like this, could be the answer. ^hmf^
Have no meaning to discuss or to read your posts because is time lost but for this time (I'm feeling patient) I will do a reply to you. You again tells bullshits in the above post. Anyhow i will try to answer. First you don't specify who is the person for whom you talk in your above post in which replied to me: him who will use the others to have a service and will pay them with bitcoin or the other one which will serve someone else which has need to buy something and will receive from him its bitcoins for the service given. Both may be unbanked, both may be unpaypaled, both my be in need to earn something or to lend oneself in order to have something, both user of the service imagined in your open eyes dreams (one as a giver of himself to earn something over lending himself and the other as a taker of service given by the first), and both may be in your dreams with the open eyes. So who is the user of the service about whom you talk in your "excellent", conflictual, confusional reply to my post?
This is the main specific of your posts: put together words and create confusion with those like no one else. There are clearly very conflictual or cannot understandable things - to much for that amount of words used by you - in your post. But I will analyse only some of those.
Lets start with the choose of the role of the person for whom you write in your reply to my post. Lets guess that the person for whom you speak in your reply to me (the unbanked, the unpaypaled, who is in need for your proposed service) is the first. It is who will give the bitcoins to have the service from another (normally cannot be another but the sentence before this one - which define him - put this clear thing in full discussion; the poster express him's surprising condition about the being bitcoiner of this person which use him/s open eyes service called Bit4You).
If we go ahead and read him's pearls we can find a fact which testify him's total confusion in your mind. I bring here him's main sentence analised in this post and written by him in the above post quoted by me: "
You saying a person who use this service, has to be a bitcoiner?" For sure must be a bitcoiner. He want to buy something which cannot be bought with bitcoin. For this kind of person is made your proposition. He must be the main person who will use this service called Bit4You (good name, very attractive). Who more than a bitcoiner can have need for a service called Bit4Youit? Who have bitcoin to give except a bitcoiner? Who want to buy with bitcoin for having something and can't because the merchant don't accept bitcoin? For what reason someone who have not bitcoin will want to use this kind of open eyes dream service called Bit4You (except when someone is called promising profit in bitcoin and he accept to have those)? Everyone can have all he want paiyng with the normal money. Why seems strange to you this sentence?
Repeat the phrase: "
You saying a person who use this service, has to be a bitcoiner?". No must not be him. It is the other one who will have the bitcoin from the lend of himself to the bitcoiner. This other one, which lend himself, must be bitcoiner in order to have probability that your dream with open eyes become true. Otherwise (so if the person who lend himself) is not a bitcoiner, one of the must probable scenario (because can be to many and almost all will have the same end; the one written in my post) that can happen is all the story showed by me in my post and not understood at all by you (will be never understood seeing how you write).
I am telling below with few rows the aim of my primary post.
The problem is not who need to buy something (he/she which will need firstly your proposed service and will pay with bitcoin) but the other part: him who will earn from the service (will lend himself) given to that person who is unbanked, who is unpaypaled or whatever may be him in your dreams with open eyes. For the second one is my example. If he don't know what the hell is this bitcoin (so is not a bitcoiner) and what he can do with the few (or with to many but yet) satoshi received for the service given to the unbanked, to the nopaypaled or to him who is in your dreams with open eyes person, then he will see you like a fool (at the moment of your proposal to give to him satoshi in order that him lend himself for you) and (repeat) will ask to you: what to do with this things given by you?
For more, who want, read my previous post.
