There will be enthusiasm. Expect it.

[americanpegasus]

Recently some positive topics and comments have come under fire for 'shilling'.  Let's dispense with the idea that any enthusiastic post is shilling.  Sometimes people are just excited about a product.    
  
Here's the rub, and the point of this discussion: there will be many more.  
  
Right now we are coming out of a crypto-lull where the nerd world went gaga for cryptocurrency in 2013/early-2014 and then we hibernated for a while.  But that's gonna end soon, and we will enter a new full blown cryptorush.  Those teens and twenties that were too wet-behind-the-ears to really participate in the last one will be all aboard for this new crypto age.  
  
And yes: there will be shitposting.  It is a marker of success.  
  
Look at the Bitcoin Soeculation board during the last mega-run in 2013.  Did people keep all enthusiasm contained to a few carefully chosen topics and keep their excitement bundled up in a calm and rational manner?  
  
No, they went girls gone wild for that shit, and they will again..  What's more, I think it sends the wrong message to discourage this.  During its heyday, Bitcoin mania was seeping onto investing boards and throughout all manner of social media.  Were the Bitcoin fanatics annoying?  Yes, /r/investing banned discussion of Bitcoin for a long time because of it.  But did it force people to confront an idea they wouldn't have otherwise heard about?  Yes, it did.  
  
Do you think that any major idea swept the world without rampant fervor behind it?  No, absolutely not.  There is no such thing as a quiet and respectful conquest when irrational and emotional humans are involved.  An idea such as religion, language, government, or in this case: cryptocurrency dominates all others specifically *because* of irrational exuberance.  
  
You know that famous "dancing on the hill" clip that everyone likes to cite regarding a movement?  You know what's not always mentioned?  The many annoying people that were probably pestering their friends throughout, 'Hey lets go dance!  Let's go!'  
  
There will be a lot of circlejerking, accidental and amateur 'shilling', and shitposting as out chosen asset rises to be worth $100 each and beyond.  Don't just expect, *encourage* it.  After all, how many people would have ended up dancing if those themselves dancing had encouraged the participants to temper their enthusiasm?  
  
Maybe the solution is to have a serious Altcoin board (like a Technical Discussion) and a non-serious one (like a Speculation one).  I don't know what the exact fix is, but I do not that enthusiasm cannot be stopped - nor should anyone try.  

[TPTB_need_war]

Fine. But that is for you guys. If coders read all that noise, we will get nothing done.

Shrilling doesn't make Monero adopted by millions of users of the currency. 10,000 speculators buying Monero isn't a coin make, although it will raise the price and make you excited. Fine.

[americanpegasus]

I think we honestly need to divide the altcoin boards into a SRS BSNS board and a shitposting/speculation board. 

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Enthusiasm is great but when prices go up for any given altcoin, those who own that altcoin tend to act like complete fools.  Like the guy at a party who puts the lampshade on his head and keeps whipping his dong out.  But it's even worse on this forum because most of what people write is unintelligible excrement anyway.  You turn the enthusiasm dial up to 11 and it is just annoying and you can't stuff these idiots back into the bottle from whence they came. 

Bought some ETH, it went up and then down and then back up and I think I broke even.  I'm done, thank you.

[BigUpGiddyup]

There will certainly be an upcoming surge of new altcoin activity

It's up to all of us to push it forward

[Braino]

People should stop hating the players and pay more attention to learning the game... Then hate the game if they still can't figure it out.

[DaveyJones]

People should stop hating the players and pay more attention to learning the game... Then hate the game if they still can't figure it out.

Or just accept the game and let others play it and watch it from the sidelines

[Braino]

People should stop hating the players and pay more attention to learning the game... Then hate the game if they still can't figure it out.

Or just accept the game and let others play it and watch it from the sidelines

Bravo.

Maybe there is a little hope around these parts.

[TPTB_need_war]

People should stop hating the players and pay more attention to learning the game... Then hate the game if they still can't figure it out.

Or just accept the game and let others play it and watch it from the sidelines

Bravo.

Maybe there is a little hope around these parts.

Except perhaps you didn't understand that in this game there will be one winner that trounces all the rest. I surmise you believe in the game of truth that "all speculators end up back below 0 eventually".

[Braino]

... you believe in the game of truth that "all speculators end up back below 0 eventually".

All, no.

Some, sure.  <-- They should find a new game.

[TPTB_need_war]

... you believe in the game of truth that "all speculators end up back below 0 eventually".

All, no.

All: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Lauriston_Livermore#After_the_Crash_of_.2729

The only gamblers who never fail are those who charge their losses to the collective such as the banksters.

Rational investors who are well diversified can generally be insulated from such carnage.

[BellaBitBit]

I enjoy the enthusiasm around altcoins and wish there was more.  Time and time again, on this altcoin thread, people call everything a "shitcoin". I fail to see them all as that - it is innovation and that is positive movement forward.  I like what you are saying about the twenty-somethings coming back to altcoins, their enthusiasm will be what propels altcoins and BTC as well.  Great post.

[LEONPATTON]

The craze for tech in coins is hyperbole maximised beyond all proportions and expectations of what currently goes on in the real world. What happened over the past four years has been faux programmers, mostly copy and paste artists drilling out coins trumpeting the tech and taking over the Crypto scene, but completely missing the point of digital currency. Bitcoin was designed to encourage free society, be relatively anonymous, and non state controlled. The geeky psychopaths pushed the anonymity aspects of their coins as if the entire world depended on it. Almost none of it to date has been of any use in the real world. Crypto became a wet dream for geek hipsters and failed programmers who cottoned on to the idea of simple copying and pasting of existing code from multiple sources. There are a handful of exceptions where the tech will have some real world use.

The point was to encourage mass adoption of digital currency to walk toward a free open society. Planting the seed governments are not needed to control our money and our lives. How many times do we see a coin that promotes this concept? Its's six years now and the average citizen cant get their heads around any of the crypto world today. That must change or we will be stuck in this echo chamber indefinitely. Crypto needs smart traders, great PR people, genuine entrepreneurs, people that work in the fiat world. It also need programmers who work in the real commercial world who have to design easy to use software for mass consumption.  Theres also way to many socialists around here who are completely against the concept of small, or even no government. They see Crypto only as a cool badge to wear.  It's an ideology which actually goes against everything they believe in.

[LEONPATTON]

it is innovation and that is positive movement forward.  Twenty-somethings coming back to altcoins, their enthusiasm will be what propels altcoins and BTC as well. 

How much innovation do you think we need before we start to push in to the real world. Your missing the point. The innovation is already there. More importantly now we need people who can bring in the masses. Those people currently all work outside of crypto. Why is this point so oblivious to many.

[Braino]

Soooo many people here really need to find new hobbies.