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April 04, 2016, 05:45:20 PM
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This smells funny,it does little to slow down the refugee issue and will cause disruption in Turkey that they really can not afford right now.
I know they are doing this to be in the EU but it seems like the EU is gambling that Turkey some how falls apart before that happens.
Actually now that I think about that,thats most likely what they think will happen. Do not see them giving Turkey what was agreed to and I also
do not think Turkey can handle the influx. So combine that with the border wars and you know they are going to fall into a interupted state.

Fuck Turkey, they are the ones funneling most of them into Europe. You think Greece is more able to handle them? Please. Do unto others.
Many of SOBs insult Turkey. Why? Why Turkey didn't hold them. Turkey already has 3 million refugees and provides their all necessity without any support of EU. Some of them go to Europe with hope of better life standards but God damn greece coastal security boats get sank their boats by shooting.

Because Turks should help their Muslims brothers and sisters.

Greeks have nothing to do with Islam and their ISIS Jihad.

Saudi Arabia should be taking all Muslim refugees from Europe.  Muslims don't belong in Europe.
They belong in the Middle East.

EU should help them because west brought them chaos. There's good benefit to sell weapons to sides in Syria. They will sell weapons, they will support each side for sustaining chaos there and why they come here! FU!
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April 04, 2016, 07:10:44 PM
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This smells funny,it does little to slow down the refugee issue and will cause disruption in Turkey that they really can not afford right now.
I know they are doing this to be in the EU but it seems like the EU is gambling that Turkey some how falls apart before that happens.
Actually now that I think about that,thats most likely what they think will happen. Do not see them giving Turkey what was agreed to and I also
do not think Turkey can handle the influx. So combine that with the border wars and you know they are going to fall into a interupted state.

Fuck Turkey, they are the ones funneling most of them into Europe. You think Greece is more able to handle them? Please. Do unto others.
Many of SOBs insult Turkey. Why? Why Turkey didn't hold them. Turkey already has 3 million refugees and provides their all necessity without any support of EU. Some of them go to Europe with hope of better life standards but God damn greece coastal security boats get sank their boats by shooting.

Because Turks should help their Muslims brothers and sisters.

Greeks have nothing to do with Islam and their ISIS Jihad.

Saudi Arabia should be taking all Muslim refugees from Europe.  Muslims don't belong in Europe.
They belong in the Middle East.

EU should help them because west brought them chaos. There's good benefit to sell weapons to sides in Syria. They will sell weapons, they will support each side for sustaining chaos there and why they come here! FU!

Religion brought chaos,otherwise the Middle East would not be so easy to manipulate into eating its self.
People would be less likely to attack another area if they felt the people across the way where like them.
So chaos was just ripe for the picking and the correct buttons are pushed to achieve a weakened state.
Do you blame the West or do you blame the Middle East for not seeing through the bullshit?

The ultimate manipulation is religion its self and that is true problem in the Middle East.

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April 04, 2016, 07:37:09 PM
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This smells funny,it does little to slow down the refugee issue and will cause disruption in Turkey that they really can not afford right now.
I know they are doing this to be in the EU but it seems like the EU is gambling that Turkey some how falls apart before that happens.
Actually now that I think about that,thats most likely what they think will happen. Do not see them giving Turkey what was agreed to and I also
do not think Turkey can handle the influx. So combine that with the border wars and you know they are going to fall into a interupted state.

Fuck Turkey, they are the ones funneling most of them into Europe. You think Greece is more able to handle them? Please. Do unto others.
Many of SOBs insult Turkey. Why? Why Turkey didn't hold them. Turkey already has 3 million refugees and provides their all necessity without any support of EU. Some of them go to Europe with hope of better life standards but God damn greece coastal security boats get sank their boats by shooting.

Because Turks should help their Muslims brothers and sisters.

Greeks have nothing to do with Islam and their ISIS Jihad.

Saudi Arabia should be taking all Muslim refugees from Europe.  Muslims don't belong in Europe.
They belong in the Middle East.

EU should help them because west brought them chaos. There's good benefit to sell weapons to sides in Syria. They will sell weapons, they will support each side for sustaining chaos there and why they come here! FU!

Religion brought chaos,otherwise the Middle East would not be so easy to manipulate into eating its self.
People would be less likely to attack another area if they felt the people across the way where like them.
So chaos was just ripe for the picking and the correct buttons are pushed to achieve a weakened state.
Do you blame the West or do you blame the Middle East for not seeing through the bullshit?

The ultimate manipulation is religion its self and that is true problem in the Middle East.
Historic blow to human rights? Where was the worldwide concern for human rights.
the question is why Saudi Arabia banned the refugees from entering their borders?

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April 04, 2016, 07:45:34 PM
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This smells funny,it does little to slow down the refugee issue and will cause disruption in Turkey that they really can not afford right now.
I know they are doing this to be in the EU but it seems like the EU is gambling that Turkey some how falls apart before that happens.
Actually now that I think about that,thats most likely what they think will happen. Do not see them giving Turkey what was agreed to and I also
do not think Turkey can handle the influx. So combine that with the border wars and you know they are going to fall into a interupted state.

Fuck Turkey, they are the ones funneling most of them into Europe. You think Greece is more able to handle them? Please. Do unto others.
Many of SOBs insult Turkey. Why? Why Turkey didn't hold them. Turkey already has 3 million refugees and provides their all necessity without any support of EU. Some of them go to Europe with hope of better life standards but God damn greece coastal security boats get sank their boats by shooting.

Because Turks should help their Muslims brothers and sisters.

Greeks have nothing to do with Islam and their ISIS Jihad.

Saudi Arabia should be taking all Muslim refugees from Europe.  Muslims don't belong in Europe.
They belong in the Middle East.

EU should help them because west brought them chaos. There's good benefit to sell weapons to sides in Syria. They will sell weapons, they will support each side for sustaining chaos there and why they come here! FU!

Religion brought chaos,otherwise the Middle East would not be so easy to manipulate into eating its self.
People would be less likely to attack another area if they felt the people across the way where like them.
So chaos was just ripe for the picking and the correct buttons are pushed to achieve a weakened state.
Do you blame the West or do you blame the Middle East for not seeing through the bullshit?

The ultimate manipulation is religion its self and that is true problem in the Middle East.
Historic blow to human rights? Where was the worldwide concern for human rights.
the question is why Saudi Arabia banned the refugees from entering their borders?

Are you talking to me because I am the last person you quote and I do not see how it connects with what I was saying!
Give it a shot though...


Turkey is looking to join the EU and this is its way into the fray,Saudi Arabia does not need to bow down or cut a deal at this point with any one. That could change but it would be like slitting their own neck to please some one else. Turkey has always been swayed by other Countries to a extent and is playing ball.

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April 05, 2016, 12:13:18 PM
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This smells funny,it does little to slow down the refugee issue and will cause disruption in Turkey that they really can not afford right now.
I know they are doing this to be in the EU but it seems like the EU is gambling that Turkey some how falls apart before that happens.
Actually now that I think about that,thats most likely what they think will happen. Do not see them giving Turkey what was agreed to and I also
do not think Turkey can handle the influx. So combine that with the border wars and you know they are going to fall into a interupted state.

Fuck Turkey, they are the ones funneling most of them into Europe. You think Greece is more able to handle them? Please. Do unto others.
Many of SOBs insult Turkey. Why? Why Turkey didn't hold them. Turkey already has 3 million refugees and provides their all necessity without any support of EU. Some of them go to Europe with hope of better life standards but God damn greece coastal security boats get sank their boats by shooting.

Because Turks should help their Muslims brothers and sisters.

Greeks have nothing to do with Islam and their ISIS Jihad.

Saudi Arabia should be taking all Muslim refugees from Europe.  Muslims don't belong in Europe.
They belong in the Middle East.

EU should help them because west brought them chaos. There's good benefit to sell weapons to sides in Syria. They will sell weapons, they will support each side for sustaining chaos there and why they come here! FU!

Religion brought chaos,otherwise the Middle East would not be so easy to manipulate into eating its self.
People would be less likely to attack another area if they felt the people across the way where like them.
So chaos was just ripe for the picking and the correct buttons are pushed to achieve a weakened state.
Do you blame the West or do you blame the Middle East for not seeing through the bullshit?

The ultimate manipulation is religion its self and that is true problem in the Middle East.
Historic blow to human rights? Where was the worldwide concern for human rights.
the question is why Saudi Arabia banned the refugees from entering their borders?

Are you talking to me because I am the last person you quote and I do not see how it connects with what I was saying!
Give it a shot though...


Turkey is looking to join the EU and this is its way into the fray,Saudi Arabia does not need to bow down or cut a deal at this point with any one. That could change but it would be like slitting their own neck to please some one else. Turkey has always been swayed by other Countries to a extent and is playing ball.
Friend, Turkey already, has more than 3 million refugees and it has no responsibility on this chaos. Actually Turkish Government and people have no compliance with them and most of people accepted them as their guests. But when EU tries loading a responsibility on Turkey,  naturally Turkey reacts. Turkish President said that " we have 3 million refugees and we spend 7 billion dollars every year for them and what Europe does? Nothing!  Closes borders and prevents refugees."  If EU is sad of their situation, at the least should support Turkey financialy.
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April 05, 2016, 12:43:53 PM
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This can't end well, the problem.of refuges should be solved at the roots. Turkey is dealing with refuges 4 or 5 years now and probably has enough. This is also the good situation for Turkey "to force" he Europe to give to them extra money and make additional pressure to enter the EU.

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April 05, 2016, 07:14:12 PM
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They seem to know very well that the emotional pull is how they are going to achieve their plight and get more of them into Europe and other locations around the world. I still recall at the start when they had a dead kid washing up on the shore and the media blizted us with photos.
The family ended up here in Canada and are now making the campaign into how we are not doing enough for thoses that arrived here.
Most of the people where sponsered by family meaning the family agreed to help them out and be responsible for them but now that they are here they are looking for the government to do something about it.

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April 06, 2016, 02:21:05 AM
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Germany warns Italy not to send migrants its way | Reuters

Apr 6, 2016 03:46 IST

VIENNA Italy should refrain from sending migrants north towards Austria and Germany or face restrictions on traffic along an important north-south transport corridor, German Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere said on Tuesday.
Austria, which has mainly acted as a conduit into Germany for migrants who have flocked to Europe since last autumn, also played a leading role in effectively closing the main migrant route into Europe, through the Balkans from Greece.

With warm weather returning to the continent, Austria is preparing for the arrival of more migrants taking another route - travelling up Italy after having crossed the Mediterranean from North African countries such as Libya.
Vienna has said it is preparing to introduce tighter border controls if necessary at the Brenner crossing, an important gateway for goods flowing between Italy and northern European countries such as Germany.

"Italy cannot depend on Brenner always staying open," de Maiziere told ORF television during a visit to Austria to meet his counterparts from other German-speaking countries, adding that Rome could not "as in the past simply guide people north".
Austria has said that tighter controls, such as vehicle checks and crowd-control measures including barriers and a fence like those at its main crossing with Slovenia, will be introduced at Brenner if the number of arrivals requires it.

"We hope that it will not have to be necessary to decide on such matters," de Maiziere told ORF, an Austrian broadcaster. He added, however, that it would also depend on Italy's behaviour.
"That is assuming that the numbers coming to Italy are not too high. That is assuming that Italy fulfils its obligations," he said, adding that he had been briefed on Austria's plans.

An Austrian Interior Ministry spokesman said on Tuesday the number of migrants crossing Austria on their way to Germany had fallen to zero. De Maiziere said recently it had fallen to about 140 a day in March, compared to thousands just a few months ago.
De Maiziere said that if the number of arrivals stayed low, Germany would scrap border controls that have held up traffic and angered many people who travel to Germany from Austria.

"According to the current estimate, if the numbers remain this low, we would not continue border controls beyond May 12," he said, adding that Germany still wanted to be prepared for a possible change in the trend.
(Reporting by Francois Murphy; Editing by James Dalgleish)

http://www.firstpost.com/world/germany-warns-italy-not-to-send-migrants-its-way-reuters-2714596.html

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April 06, 2016, 05:17:22 AM
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This can't end well, the problem.of refuges should be solved at the roots. Turkey is dealing with refuges 4 or 5 years now and probably has enough. This is also the good situation for Turkey "to force" he Europe to give to them extra money and make additional pressure to enter the EU.

Why should Europe give them the money? Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the other GCC nations provoked the civil war in Syria, by arming various Islamist factions such as the Jabhat Al Nusra, ISIS and the Jaysh al Islam. This in turn created the refugee influx. So it is the responsibility of the GCC nations to take care of the refugees.
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April 06, 2016, 09:32:10 PM
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Friend, Turkey already, has more than 3 million refugees and it has no responsibility on this chaos. Actually Turkish Government and people have no compliance with them and most of people accepted them as their guests. But when EU tries loading a responsibility on Turkey,  naturally Turkey reacts. Turkish President said that " we have 3 million refugees and we spend 7 billion dollars every year for them and what Europe does? Nothing!  Closes borders and prevents refugees."  If EU is sad of their situation, at the least should support Turkey financialy.

From what I have read this is part of the agreement that the EU has made with Turkey to allow Turkey to get into the EU.
From a far it looks like Turkey is branching out into to many proxy wars and its going to drag them into potential issues with Russia all the well trying to figure out the Kurdish,ISIS and other issues. If Turkey is feeling hard done by it should never have agreed to the deal in the first place.
Seems what you are being told is different from what is being told outside Turkey.
I am presuming you are in that area due to the context of your threads,are you in Turkey?

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April 19, 2016, 08:45:42 PM
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How is this working for Greece economically? Was not long a go they where talking about locked banks with limits and a exodus of young people across Europe. So I can not imagine this is helping matters,unless the Euro zone is some how picking up the tab.


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April 20, 2016, 01:21:20 AM
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How is this working for Greece economically? Was not long a go they where talking about locked banks with limits and a exodus of young people across Europe. So I can not imagine this is helping matters,unless the Euro zone is some how picking up the tab.

The invasion of these third world barbarians are putting an enormous strain on the Greek government resources. The European Union is not helping out either. They have provided just a few million EUR to the Greek government. Now compare that to the € 20 billion which the Turks are about to get from the EU, for sending the invaders to Europe. 
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April 20, 2016, 01:35:21 AM
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So crash Turkey and Greece at the same time. Greece already screwed and Turkey stretched thin with all these boder scrimmages.
Think Turkey would wake up from being lead around with a carrot.

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