[POLL] CoinMarketCap Needs to get their shit together ?

[instacalm]

Oh he does a good job does he ?

REMINDER:

It was a little known guy here named.. SPOETNIK that got him to add the ASTERISK to coins.
Do you fathom what that means ?

Users were gaming the Market Cap data charts buy manipulating coin supplies with ICO coins.
I told him they were using it to rig the game in advance in an unfair way.
I told him i had guys selling info privately about what would leap frog the charts even before they released it ..for sale for a fee. (i still have the proof of this)

What did he do ?
Him and his cheerleaders here screamed FUD and Troll at me trying to insult and discredit me for ages.
Once again i had to defend myself.. on & on wasting my time defending myself from attacks.

Later..

Quietly when no one was looking he did what i suggested and.. added asterisk' to the site.

YOU ARE WELCOME UNGRATEFUL INVESTARDS  

..and no of course i did not get an apology or even recognition for my idea and improvement on the entire crypto scene.

Quit playing stupid with idealistic rabble sleaze balls.
You know damn well that Noobs show up here and see coins listed on Exchanges and on CoinMarketCap and other sites then *assume* they must be legit *enough* to buy them etc.

I am talking about coins that are proven to be a fucking scam people.
Such as MLM coins that are verified.. like LEO Coin

LEO Coin is what i was thinking off starting this topic.
Things have changed people.. we have lowered the bar even more now.
Over time this has gotten more and more silly with pointless greedy cash grab scam coins.
It's time to rethink the whole "Freedom" bullshit routine.
For one thing it died long ago.. as you all mouthed me off all cocky saying, "They can't do anything"
Bullshit they can't.

- Tax laws can be put out. (like USA & CAN)
- FiNCEN can hand out fines (such as with Ripple)
- The SEC can issue a FRAUD Alert. (like they did on January 2016)
- Exchanges can be forced to rat out customers behind closed doors and take your Picture ID etc.
- Guys selling BTC on LocalBitcoins were arrested in Florida by the FBI in 2013.

You are forcing the govt's hand to enforce regulations and law on us all by playing dumb.
If you all won't police your shit they will do it for us !

You are saying hey we need to have freedom which in turn makes you a defender of Pyramid Scheme PONZI Coins like LEO Coin.. while you say it's because of idealism.. which does not exist.

There are consequences for your actions and you will all be held accountable.
And i know 99% of you are fucking big mouth pussies.
You will all be hiding under your bed or ratting out the guy next to you in a fucking heart beat.
You have BIG talk here but when it comes down to it and the cops come knocking.. none of you will man up.
When you are requested to come to court are you prepared for a lengthy COSTLY bill to back up your mouth ?

I am.

I paid the lawyer fee's for my battle with Bitcoin + Paypal and i won.. i kicked their god damn ass.

Ready to defend that scammer "freedom" Profiteers ?

..i think not

PS:
The votes went from 50/50 to 75% YES = FUD is winning  

PPS:
Gambling ?
uhhhmm yeah, no.
Gambling is regulated dumb fucks.. this shit is not.
Nice try, but retort fucking fail.  

You all have never had a shred of concern for fraud victims.
You all don't give two shits as long as your precious scam scene is protected so You can keep exploiting naive users coming to crypto.
This whole, aww.. well, fuck 'em attitude is sickening.

Spoetnik, have you contacted Gliss regarding the removal of scam coins? Perhaps he agrees with you on certain coins, as you seem to have a deeper understanding of which ones are morally questionable.

[thepo1m]

I think we should thread gentlely in this area, I know personally that we have more scam projects more than genuie ones in cryptospace but there is no sound and solid criteria to distinguished them, for someone like Tony Vay all altcoins are scam coin, which is wrong. I will like them to be more critecal of these coin before list them

[instacalm]

I think we should thread gentlely in this area, I know personally that we have more scam projects more than genuie ones in cryptospace but there is no sound and solid criteria to distinguished them, for someone like Tony Vay all altcoins are scam coin, which is wrong. I will like them to be more critecal of these coin before list them

Yes but Spoetnik seems to know which coins are not trustworthy and hence can safely be regarded as scams. Is that what he claims? If so, he can contact Gliss, the owner of Coinmarketcap, on these regards. I'm sure he'd respond.

[Spoetnik]

I think we should thread gentlely in this area, I know personally that we have more scam projects more than genuie ones in cryptospace but there is no sound and solid criteria to distinguished them, for someone like Tony Vay all altcoins are scam coin, which is wrong. I will like them to be more critecal of these coin before list them

Yes but Spoetnik seems to know which coins are not trustworthy and hence can safely be regarded as scams. Is that what he claims? If so, he can contact Gliss, the owner of Coinmarketcap, on these regards. I'm sure he'd respond.

How about when the Pakistani govt seizes the LEO Coin bank accounts then the leader is arrested and fired after being accused of running an MLM PONZI Fraud scam ?
..which was obvious to us right ?

Obvious ? Did i just use that word ?
hmm well ? Is it ?

YOU TELL ME PEOPLE

[bathrobehero]

I paid the lawyer fee's for my battle with Bitcoin + Paypal and i won.. i kicked their god damn ass.

When did that happened?

[Spoetnik]

I paid the lawyer fee's for my battle with Bitcoin + Paypal and i won.. i kicked their god damn ass.

When did that happened?

I've told the long story over & over since about January 2014
..while staff permit Paypal + Crypto deals to continue.
It is against the TOS and if you are caught your money will be seized and your account plus all purchases etc will be frozen indefinably.
Apparently staff could care less.. all they did was put a sticky saying "Charge Backs" are a risk.  
(staff have known about this since at least 2012)

Not exactly on topic is it though ?

Calling me out ? I have proof of course

Maybe you should all grow the fuck up ?

Sorry i know there is no age requirement here so i may be talking to 12 year old's losing lunch money on LEO Coin.

Fuck 'em ..user demand.. freedom.. due diligence.. right ?

Gotta go i got ROI'z to count up..

Reality Check:
The entire Altcoin scene combined does not have as much integrity as me.
You are all a bunch of shit talking little bullshitting hypocrites that say one thing and then do the opposite seconds later when no one is looking.. fer teh ROI'z.

Crypto High.. where the brats smoke under the bleachers cause they are bad azz !!!

[bathrobehero]

I paid the lawyer fee's for my battle with Bitcoin + Paypal and i won.. i kicked their god damn ass.

When did that happened?

I've told the long story over & over since about January 2014
..while staff permit Paypal + Crypto deals to continue.
It is against the TOS and if you are caught your money will be seized and your account plus all purchases etc will be frozen indefinably.
Apparently staff could care less.. all they did was put a sticky saying "Charge Backs" are a risk.  
(staff have known about this since at least 2012)

Not exactly on topic is it though ?

Calling me out ? I have proof of course

I just assumed it was earlier.

In early 2014 Paypal didn't give a fuck about Bitcoin and eventually rejected the refund of a dude who tried to scam me after I proved their support that I have indeed paid the guy (in Bitcoin).


On topic, I said my piece but here's a last thought; CMC being a tool, a coin catalog, it's effectively a more complete, better tool the more coin it lists. If they were to remove coins another service might replace them.

It's not a tool for promotion like you seem to make it out to be, it's a tool providing information. It's nice to have all the links and an overview of a coin to help researching if it's a scam or not.

And let's be realistic, even for not obvious scams marketcap is a pretty useless number if you think about it. It doesn't tell you anything even remotely useful alone and even combined with volume (which is super easy to manipulate) and supply it doesn't say that much.

[Spoetnik]

I think we should thread gentlely in this area, I know personally that we have more scam projects more than genuie ones in cryptospace but there is no sound and solid criteria to distinguished them, for someone like Tony Vay all altcoins are scam coin, which is wrong. I will like them to be more critecal of these coin before list them

Yes but Spoetnik seems to know which coins are not trustworthy and hence can safely be regarded as scams. Is that what he claims? If so, he can contact Gliss, the owner of Coinmarketcap, on these regards. I'm sure he'd respond.

How about when the Pakistani govt seizes the LEO Coin bank accounts then the leader is arrested and fired after being accused of running an MLM PONZI Fraud scam ?
..which was obvious to us right ?

Obvious ? Did i just use that word ?
hmm well ? Is it ?

YOU TELL ME PEOPLE

Nice diversion earlier Monero guy 

[BitcoinNational]

I'd support a Spoetnik Approved filter. 

Just as a tab.  CMC needs more tabs/categories.

Examples:
ALL
Assets
Spoetnik Approved
POS
POW
ico/premine
+3 years old

[BTCLovingDude]

coinmarketcap should only be used to see what coins are available and where. nothing else on there is reliable.
the ranking is complete bullshit.
the volume is not a good source of comparison either.

and worst of all is their exchange ranking, last time i checked Yobit was climbing the rank with supersonic speed!!! and the strange part is that the combined orderbook size in yobit is half of the shittiest coin volume traded on polo or even bittrex. how they are reporting that volume!

[bathrobehero]

coinmarketcap should only be used to see what coins are available and where. nothing else on there is reliable.
the ranking is complete bullshit.
the volume is not a good source of comparison either.

and worst of all is their exchange ranking, last time i checked Yobit was climbing the rank with supersonic speed!!! and the strange part is that the combined orderbook size in yobit is half of the shittiest coin volume traded on polo or even bittrex. how they are reporting that volume!

Yobit is full of bots. You can see a bunch of coins constantly blinking as bots keep making trades, increasing volume in the process.

[instacalm]

I'd support a Spoetnik Approved filter. 

Just as a tab.  CMC needs more tabs/categories.

Examples:
ALL
Assets
Spoetnik Approved
POS
POW
ico/premine
+3 years old

I completely agree. This approach would support various views on the ethics of cryptocurrencies. Spoetnik is definitely someone who knows what he's talking about and an official tab for him to distribute his knowledge for the good of the cryptocurrency community is a neat idea in my opinion.

[Spoetnik]

I'd support a Spoetnik Approved filter.  

Just as a tab.  CMC needs more tabs/categories.

Examples:
ALL
Assets
Spoetnik Approved
POS
POW
ico/premine
+3 years old

I completely agree. This approach would support various views on the ethics of cryptocurrencies. Spoetnik is definitely someone who knows what he's talking about and an official tab for him to distribute his knowledge for the good of the cryptocurrency community is a neat idea in my opinion.

That was pretty funny.  

People I ALREADY pointed out more than once i am talking about the BLATANT obvious scams.
When the police come and arrest you for your coin.. i'd say it's a fucking scam don't you ?

You all have been posting but hiding from my point.

You are all saying LEO Coin (for example) deserves to be listed ?

People these things only start and keep going luring in more people BECAUSE OF SUPPORT.
They are supported across crypto from end to end.
LEO Coin guys can have Coindesk stories posted.. Market Cap rankings posted at CoinMarketCap.. they can have Exchanges add the coin.. they can have this forum let them post about it.. they can have pools and other services such as Cloud Mining post it... then all of you can defend their right to post criminal scams.

EVEN after they are god damn arrested by the fucking Police !  

The MLM type scam coins function and continue BECAUSE YOU LET THEM !
Because you loiter around chanting free market etc.

I have seen exchanges review coin code and if they thought it was rigged they would deny adding it.
So why are MLM style scam coins permitted ?
You all forget about Poloniex and the SuperCoin drama ?

Bottom line is if you all will not Police your scene the Fed's will do it for you.

[iGotSpots]

It's cute how much you think you're 'responsible for'

[Spoetnik]

It's cute how much you think you're 'responsible for'

I was responsible for "it"
I said it he mouthed me off then not a week went by and he added it.
Put 2 and 2 together.. i was right and he knew it !

And i am right now too.
Also right when i point out you said you left.
Yet the only time you keep reappearing is to lip me off.

Funny i have more dirt on you than anyone in crypto and you still have the balls to have a run at me ?
Why ?
Because i am undefeated and knocked you on your ass 100% of the time.. and that eats you up inside.
So you eventually come crawling up behind me to lunge at me yet again.. havin' another go at ole' Spoetnik.

I am the for real champ bruh !


EDIT:

By the way, i don't care if you want to leave (your prerogative)
I would prefer you stay if it was up to me.
I was just giving you a hard time basically

Anyone that has been around a long time watching from their own personal perspective will always be a valuable asset to the world of crypto.
Someone needs to preserve the history of "Crypto".

So don't get me wrong people.. i am not advocating the guy leave (just pointing out how he said he was leaving then never did)