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October 16, 2010, 08:17:18 AM
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This got my attention, and want to know more about Wirtland. Can you describe your experiences thus far?
Well, I enjoy my Wirtland identity, I also have a plastic ID card from Wirtland. I have made a contribution to the Wirtland project by creating a network of Russian-speaking witizens (i.e. citizens of Wirtland). I follow Wirtland news. What else? I have Wirtland gold (see pic below) and silver coins. Occasionally I wear my Wirtland sweater  By the way, every witizen can submit articles to Wirtland's newspaper. I think those BC-enthusiasts, who join Wirtland, should suggest some material for publication in "The Times of Wirtland" - to explain Bitcoin, etc. Just an idea... http://s3.amazonaws.com/silo.grou.ps/userimages/witizens/20100809043532-bnlfsbvllfkjqlywz.jpg |
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October 16, 2010, 08:38:16 AM |
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I didn't know about Wirtland. This surely seems like a nice project, especially on these times where nations are trying to force the idea of a world government.
With increase communication possibility, the urge for a territorial domain in order to maintain a large human organised society decreases. Thus, a supra-territorial organisation seems logical.
It's not new, though. Somehow, one can consider organisations such as freemsonery ("franc maçonnerie") to be some kind of supra-national state.
Still, it's a good things such projects developp. The more they are, the better they will be able to counterweight the raise of world government.
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October 16, 2010, 09:05:31 PM |
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This got my attention, and want to know more about Wirtland. Can you describe your experiences thus far?
Well, I enjoy my Wirtland identity, I also have a plastic ID card from Wirtland. I have made a contribution to the Wirtland project by creating a network of Russian-speaking witizens (i.e. citizens of Wirtland). I follow Wirtland news. What else? I have Wirtland gold (see pic below) and silver coins. Occasionally I wear my Wirtland sweater By the way, every witizen can submit articles to Wirtland's newspaper. I think those BC-enthusiasts, who join Wirtland, should suggest some material for publication in "The Times of Wirtland" - to explain Bitcoin, etc. Just an idea...  So far, Wirtland seems to be an early version of a 'phyle'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Diamond_Age#Phyleshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirtland_(micronation) And the coins look awesome. How can I get some? |
"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."
- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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October 16, 2010, 09:56:47 PM |
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This got my attention, and want to know more about Wirtland. Can you describe your experiences thus far?
Well, I enjoy my Wirtland identity, I also have a plastic ID card from Wirtland. I have made a contribution to the Wirtland project by creating a network of Russian-speaking witizens (i.e. citizens of Wirtland). I follow Wirtland news. What else? I have Wirtland gold (see pic below) and silver coins. Occasionally I wear my Wirtland sweater By the way, every witizen can submit articles to Wirtland's newspaper. I think those BC-enthusiasts, who join Wirtland, should suggest some material for publication in "The Times of Wirtland" - to explain Bitcoin, etc. Just an idea... So far, Wirtland seems to be an early version of a 'phyle'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Diamond_Age#Phyleshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirtland_(micronation) And the coins look awesome. How can I get some? Writcoin and bitcoin exchange market! |
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October 17, 2010, 01:08:33 AM |
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This got my attention, and want to know more about Wirtland. Can you describe your experiences thus far?
Well, I enjoy my Wirtland identity, I also have a plastic ID card from Wirtland. I have made a contribution to the Wirtland project by creating a network of Russian-speaking witizens (i.e. citizens of Wirtland). I follow Wirtland news. What else? I have Wirtland gold (see pic below) and silver coins. Occasionally I wear my Wirtland sweater By the way, every witizen can submit articles to Wirtland's newspaper. I think those BC-enthusiasts, who join Wirtland, should suggest some material for publication in "The Times of Wirtland" - to explain Bitcoin, etc. Just an idea... So far, Wirtland seems to be an early version of a 'phyle'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Diamond_Age#Phyleshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirtland_(micronation) And the coins look awesome. How can I get some? Maybe they could sell them for bitcoins? |
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October 17, 2010, 11:00:37 AM |
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Yesterday I read a little about Wirtland, and I'm sorry, but I still don't get it... I didn't read too much so maybe I'm missing something, but, if you people can't be free from the state laws of the place you live in - and, as far as I understood, the wirtland project doesn't intend to do so like the seasteading project for example -, so, what's the point in it?
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Vic (OP)
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October 17, 2010, 05:46:42 PM |
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Yesterday I read a little about Wirtland, and I'm sorry, but I still don't get it... I didn't read too much so maybe I'm missing something, but, if you people can't be free from the state laws of the place you live in - and, as far as I understood, the wirtland project doesn't intend to do so like the seasteading project for example -, so, what's the point in it?
Some people are happy with virtual country, but for those who want more there are bigger plans - read this: http://wirtlandinstitute.blogspot.com/2010/09/how-to-sell-square-mile-of-wasteland.html |
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October 17, 2010, 05:54:31 PM |
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Personally I don't agree that Wirtland has anything common with a cyberpunk novel or fantasy. It's not one of virtual worlds, not a game, and not intended for entertainment. We prefer to discuss down-to-earth, pragmatic subjects. That's why I'm asking practical questions about Bitcoins -- because we want Wirtland to be useful to its members. |
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October 17, 2010, 06:21:37 PM |
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Personally I don't agree that Wirtland has anything common with a cyberpunk novel or fantasy. It's not one of virtual worlds, not a game, and not intended for entertainment. We prefer to discuss down-to-earth, pragmatic subjects. That's why I'm asking practical questions about Bitcoins -- because we want Wirtland to be useful to its members. I agree with Vic. |
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October 17, 2010, 08:31:30 PM |
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Personally I don't agree that Wirtland has anything common with a cyberpunk novel or fantasy. It's not one of virtual worlds, not a game, and not intended for entertainment. We prefer to discuss down-to-earth, pragmatic subjects. That's why I'm asking practical questions about Bitcoins -- because we want Wirtland to be useful to its members. I'm guessing you didn't read Diamond Age. A phyle is pretty much exactly a voluntarily-joined non-geographic state. Unless I don't understand, that's what Wirtland is aspiring to. |
Play Bitcoin Poker at sealswithclubs.eu. We're active and open to everyone. |
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October 17, 2010, 08:43:04 PM |
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I had read about this proposition to Nauru and all. It's interesting, but... even if works out, you'll remain subject to the laws of the state you live in... Besides role-playing, the main reason I'd see for trying to fund a new nation is to live under new laws... |
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Vic (OP)
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October 23, 2010, 06:05:53 PM |
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I had read about this proposition to Nauru and all. It's interesting, but... even if works out, you'll remain subject to the laws of the state you live in...
Besides role-playing, the main reason I'd see for trying to fund a new nation is to live under new laws...
But Wirtland is not about abandoning your current laws and your country. It is about getting additional possibilities, which come with Wirtland citizenship. Yes, each citizens of Wirtland may be subject to his home laws, but as community Wirtland is subject to its own law only. It's not hostile to any real countries, it's actually indifferent to them. That's my understanding.  |
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October 24, 2010, 08:58:50 PM |
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That's right. See below: Patri FRIEDMAN, founder and executive director of the Seasteading Institute, welcomed possible cooperation with the Wirtland Institute: "I would be delighted if Wirtland would take on research of questions of sovereignty, which are more general than just seasteading and apply to any nation-founding venture, so that we could focus on the specific issues related to nations on the water" (source: http://www.wirtland.org/) |
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