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July 01, 2023, 09:33:35 AM
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The world needs a rest from all of these wards and it's almost in every country.

War isn’t so easy to define anymore. I personally believe we are at war though. The flood of drugs killing Americans, the rise of mental illness, our food supply chain being destroyed, outright lies being told by our government. All of this doesn’t happen without major outside influence. I think you’d have to be not paying attention to not see that America is under attack.
I agree, we also do get these wars in cyberspace and even a country's own government is experiencing its own civil war. That's why I don't think that we will see the world take a rest from all of these types of wars and if the actual world war 3 will come for which it will be China and US, that's gonna be big and it could not even be with those arms but with a biological warfare.

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July 01, 2023, 05:23:45 PM
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The world needs a rest from all of these wards and it's almost in every country.

War isn’t so easy to define anymore. I personally believe we are at war though. The flood of drugs killing Americans, the rise of mental illness, our food supply chain being destroyed, outright lies being told by our government. All of this doesn’t happen without major outside influence. I think you’d have to be not paying attention to not see that America is under attack.
I agree, we also do get these wars in cyberspace and even a country's own government is experiencing its own civil war. That's why I don't think that we will see the world take a rest from all of these types of wars and if the actual world war 3 will come for which it will be China and US, that's gonna be big and it could not even be with those arms but with a biological warfare.

It's nice that we can sit here in a free forum and talk. But what can we do about the things we talk about?

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July 01, 2023, 07:38:40 PM
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In as much as World War III is a certain event to take place in the future, the world between Russia and Ukraine will not be a stepping stone to it anytime soon. I've watched documentaries and read history about the various causes of what would happen that can lead to that, and the current conflict between the two countries has nothing to do with it. No matter how long their fight lasts, it will not lead to World fight 3.

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July 02, 2023, 03:52:42 PM
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In as much as World War III is a certain event to take place in the future, the world between Russia and Ukraine will not be a stepping stone to it anytime soon. I've watched documentaries and read history about the various causes of what would happen that can lead to that, and the current conflict between the two countries has nothing to do with it. No matter how long their fight lasts, it will not lead to World fight 3.

The problem with this thinking is that the war is not between Russia and Ukraine. Rather, it is between the US/Nato and Russia. And it is an economic/financial war between them.

As such, this war, since it is also based in the SWIFT financial system vs. the new system being developed by BRICS, easily might be the entry into a new kind of world war.

The SWIFT system is international, even though no country is required to use it. All major countries DO use SWIFT, however, because it works. But many countries don't like the controlling way it works, essentially making slaves of other nations simply by the fact that the US banking system is the one that gets paid by everybody who uses SWIFT.

Perhaps BRICS freedom ideals are based in greed. But their greed is far less than the greed of the banking system that developed SWIFT.

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July 03, 2023, 09:21:31 AM
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The world needs a rest from all of these wards and it's almost in every country.

War isn’t so easy to define anymore. I personally believe we are at war though. The flood of drugs killing Americans, the rise of mental illness, our food supply chain being destroyed, outright lies being told by our government. All of this doesn’t happen without major outside influence. I think you’d have to be not paying attention to not see that America is under attack.
I agree, we also do get these wars in cyberspace and even a country's own government is experiencing its own civil war. That's why I don't think that we will see the world take a rest from all of these types of wars and if the actual world war 3 will come for which it will be China and US, that's gonna be big and it could not even be with those arms but with a biological warfare.

It's nice that we can sit here in a free forum and talk. But what can we do about the things we talk about?

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I don't know, I have my own things to do, and do it in the best that I can. And by doing those, the little thing that another one that I can do is to not contributor to those factors that we've mentioned by simply being a good and law-abiding citizen.

In as much as World War III is a certain event to take place in the future, the world between Russia and Ukraine will not be a stepping stone to it anytime soon. I've watched documentaries and read history about the various causes of what would happen that can lead to that, and the current conflict between the two countries has nothing to do with it. No matter how long their fight lasts, it will not lead to World fight 3.
And by next year, the US presidential election is going to be a big factor for whatever is happening in the world. These wars have been triggered by their funding to these wars and if another president that has the same stance for it then we can't expect anything from it.

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July 03, 2023, 10:44:04 AM
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Most likely the war will end in 2024 or it could have been sooner if US provided Ukraine with long range weapons and now the Biden administration is seriously looking to provide Ukraine such weapons which would end the war sooner than expected.
Even if the US gives Ukraine a wide range of weapons from now until 2024, the Russians won't give up their position on Ukrainian soil anytime soon.
Because the entire war has been fought on Ukrainian soil, Ukraine should exercise caution regarding the ongoing conflict with Russia. The same level of weaponry that was to be given to Ukraine's armies to destroy the Russians, will be the same weaponry Russians will be applied on them back.

The US election will take place in 2024. I sincerely hope that a new administration, not Biden, will be in charge in order to work toward a lasting peace and a referendum between the two countries (Ukraine and Russia).

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July 03, 2023, 04:04:19 PM
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The fast way to solve the Ukraine vs. Russia crisis is not to wait for elections in 2024. The fast way is to support Putin as shown below. Support? Support by showing people that it is really the US that is behind this war, so that they can urge Putin to stop the war, as shown below.

This war has gone way beyond the idea of protecting Russians and Ukrainians in the Donbas regions from the corrupt Ukrainian government and military. Putin >>> STOP THE WAR! You are only hurting yourself, Russia, and Ukraine, by dragging it out, and allowing it to be dragged out, longer.


Geopolitical Evolution: Russia's 'Rebellion' & A Return To Gold-Backed Currency



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At the time of writing, existing members, those who have applied to join and those expressing an interest total 36 nations, with over 60% of the world's population and one-third of global GDP.

Plans for a new trade currency backed by gold appear to be on the agenda for the BRICS meeting in Johannesburg in August. In this article, the geopolitical aspects of its introduction are considered, and the indications that how it will involve gold are discussed. The mechanics of this project are then suggested.

But first, we look at the situation in Ukraine, attempting to put the recent Wagner rebellion into context. Furthermore, Russia's deteriorating trade surplus, weakness of the rouble and rising bond yields suggest that it is time for President Putin to put an end to Ukraine's misery. He is likely to do this by attacking Kiev, which is only 60 miles from Belarus, while the bulk of Ukraine's army is distracted by operations over 400 miles to the south and east.
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July 05, 2023, 05:48:41 PM
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Scary, isn't it! Or haven't you read?

Way past time for everybody to get serious about God and faith in Him. Repent of your evil deeds, and of not believing in the salvation of Jesus, God's Son. Get into the New Testament of the Bible, and the Holy Spirit will show you how to believe.


The Darkness Ahead: Where The Ukraine War Is Headed



https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/the-darkness-ahead-where-the-ukraine
First, is a meaningful peace agreement possible? My answer is no. We are now in a war where both sides – Ukraine and the West on one side and Russia on the other – see each other as an existential threat that must be defeated. Given maximalist objectives all around, it is almost impossible to reach a workable peace treaty. Moreover, the two sides have irreconcilable differences regarding territory and Ukraine's relationship with the West. The best possible outcome is a frozen conflict that could easily turn back into a hot war. The worst possible outcome is a nuclear war, which is unlikely but cannot be ruled out. 

Second, which side is likely to win the war? Russia will ultimately win the war, although it will not decisively defeat Ukraine. In other words, it is not going to conquer all of Ukraine, which is necessary to achieve three of Moscow's goals: overthrowing the regime, demilitarizing the country, and severing Kyiv's security ties with the West. But it will end up annexing a large swath of Ukrainian territory, while turning Ukraine into a dysfunctional rump state. In other words, Russia will win an ugly victory.

Before I directly address these issues, three preliminary points are in order. For starters, I am attempting to predict the future, which is not easy to do, given that we live in an uncertain world. Thus, I am not arguing that I have the truth; in fact, some of my claims may be proved wrong. Furthermore, I am not saying what I would like to see happen. I am not rooting for one side or the other. I am simply telling you what I think will happen as the war moves forward. Finally, I am not justifying Russian behavior or the actions of any of the states involved in the conflict. I am just explaining their actions.

Now, let me turn to substance.

Where We Are Today

To understand where the Ukraine war is headed, it is necessary to first assess the present situation. It is important to know how the three main actors – Russia, Ukraine, and the West – think about their threat environment and conceive their goals. When we talk about the West, however, we are talking mainly about the United States, since its European allies take their marching orders from Washington when it comes to Ukraine. It is also essential to understand the present situation on the battlefield. Let me start with Russia's threat environment and its goals.
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July 06, 2023, 10:40:09 PM
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As much as there are those who benefit from war, I don't think any country wants an all-out world war. It will be too devastating. This is why a lot of countries try their possible best not to involve themselves in the war between Russia and Ukraine officially.
World War 2 was bad, world war 3 will see a total annihilation of cities and even countries.
I cannot predict how things will be in a thousand years to come, but the world is threading on a thin line right now, any little thing can cause trouble and if not checked it can escalate.

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