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August 25, 2016, 09:44:59 PM
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So I am exploring the option to perhaps become a trader in the near future. I see a lot of trades for PayPal on LBC require ID verification. I understand the reasoning since PayPal is reversible. While I think it would definitely help as a deterrent for people to try to issue chargebacks, what happens if someone charges back even after being verified. As I understand trading BTC for PayPal is forbidden according to their rules, so I am thinking there is a chance they would ban both the buyer and seller.

What experience do you guys have in this matter? Has anyone ever tried to chargeback you after ID verification? Did you manage to get your money back?
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August 26, 2016, 05:48:22 AM
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I remember one time when i was newbie , i traded my bitcoin for skrill in localbitcoin but after some days my skrill get blocked with all the funds in it (i think). I never knew what was the reason for this and as paypal is also reversible payment gateway and forbid bitcoin related deals, they may also do same.

About chargebacks in paypal, i got scammed by some guy over facebook. I tried to buy bitcoin from him and sended him paypal in small block of 10$ but he even scammed me that 10$. And after 6 hour or something i placed chargeback stating digital goods is not as described and after few weeks i get that 10$ back, i think paypal don't get any clue this transaction was for bitcoin. And i think the one buying bitcoin with paypal in LBC can also do same if he is fraud.
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August 26, 2016, 06:10:02 AM
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So I am exploring the option to perhaps become a trader in the near future. I see a lot of trades for PayPal on LBC require ID verification. I understand the reasoning since PayPal is reversible. While I think it would definitely help as a deterrent for people to try to issue chargebacks, what happens if someone charges back even after being verified. As I understand trading BTC for PayPal is forbidden according to their rules, so I am thinking there is a chance they would ban both the buyer and seller.

What experience do you guys have in this matter? Has anyone ever tried to chargeback you after ID verification? Did you manage to get your money back?

I don`t think that ID verification can help all the time.The other guy can still chargeback with paypal.

ID verification is more like using the buyers personal info as a collateral to guarantee that there won`t be any

scam attemps and the deal will happen smoothly.

That`s just my opinion...

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August 26, 2016, 08:13:51 PM
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I remember one time when i was newbie , i traded my bitcoin for skrill in localbitcoin but after some days my skrill get blocked with all the funds in it (i think). I never knew what was the reason for this and as paypal is also reversible payment gateway and forbid bitcoin related deals, they may also do same.

About chargebacks in paypal, i got scammed by some guy over facebook. I tried to buy bitcoin from him and sended him paypal in small block of 10$ but he even scammed me that 10$. And after 6 hour or something i placed chargeback stating digital goods is not as described and after few weeks i get that 10$ back, i think paypal don't get any clue this transaction was for bitcoin. And i think the one buying bitcoin with paypal in LBC can also do same if he is fraud.
Your situation is kinda reverse to what I was saying. PayPal didn't get a a clue that this transaction included Bitcoins, my concern is that the if the second party rejects the claim and PayPal investigates, they may ban both users.


I don`t think that ID verification can help all the time.The other guy can still chargeback with paypal.

ID verification is more like using the buyers personal info as a collateral to guarantee that there won`t be any

scam attemps and the deal will happen smoothly.

That`s just my opinion...
That's what I was thinking, that the ID is more of a deterrent than an actual insurance against chargebacks.
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