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October 08, 2016, 06:45:41 AM
Last edit: October 08, 2016, 04:25:36 PM by Spoetnik
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I want to talk about the fact the older users came here to support a currency..
And how in time this altcoin section has simply turned into a dumping ground for any type of "token" scheme with or with out a blockchain ..traded for profit on centralized US govt controlled exchanges.

Apparently this is fine and you all have decided to call it "innovation"
Such as with Steem or Ethereum.

I guess it's ok to create "schemes" that are really not a currency at all.

Don't get me wrong i am not entirely against the idea of alternative uses for technology.
For example if a system came out to help P2P file sharing i may be able to get on board with that.
There is a problem there that needs a solution.

(without the ICO scammy token trading on Poloniex of course)

I have said lots it seems as if the scene realized adoption was going nowhere and simply shifted gears into something that is fast gratifying.. hobble together some code ICO it and launch it on exchanges..
You don't even need the project completed to do this.. just hold your hand out for millions of dollars in Bitcoin.

You know people all i hear about is "innovation" but where the fuck is it ?
The closest possible thing put out i have seen that *could* be possibly perceived as an innovation in the Altcon scene is the ANON concept.. and even that i think is debatable.
So what else is there for a crypto-currency "innovation" ?
There must be LOTS of it because holy shit do i hear guys cry innovation like a broken record.

I want to know why you all decided to blur the lines and simply go along with what ever is rolled out.
Why is it now acceptable to run an ICO (AKA: a 100% premine) ?
Why is it acceptable to create "scheme" tokens then call them currencies and then place them along side actual currencies here on the forum and all over crypto.

Close enough ?

Profits ?

Just what in the god damn hell is going on ?


Do you all think the changes to the Altcorn scene have been helpful since 2013 ?
You cry innovation and chant how Crypto is doing oooooooh so great all the time.
Yet all i see when i look around is a shrinking crypto-circle jerk with profiteers preaching to the kidiot choir.

Like some new coin comes out and you all start puppet account hopping and spamming etc.
Who are you talking to ? who are you trying to "convince" ?
I'll tell you..
You are talking to the same exact crowd that has been here for ages jumping from coin to coin
and they all could not care less if something is innovative.
They ONLY care about if it will be trending and they can profit from it. $$$

Innovation to 99% of Crypto is irrelevant.
It could be but unless it pads your BTC wallet you guys will avoid it like the plague.. and it will be DOA.

Not sure why you all bother to push on with such a blatant charade when the entire universe sees straight through this entire facade.
You all here must be making a killing in BTC profits with all this "innovation"

How do you all turn your head to such rampant retarded behavior.
Holy god damn tap dancing christ people there is like 6 or 7,000 fucking ANN topics  Shocked
What does that tell you ?


..apparently not a god damn thing.. 7,001 was just ICO'd and it sold out it's scammy "presale"

All i have expected here last couple years is you all to turn your heads and.. count your money.
i'd be shocked if anyone even replies to this topic.. you ignore them all usually.

You all wanna talk about Innovation.. Doge coin supporters ?  Cheesy

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October 08, 2016, 08:11:52 AM
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Such as with Steem or Ethereum.

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October 08, 2016, 09:21:48 AM
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As a small kid i traded + played games at school with Hockey cards.
As an older teen i got into collecting them..
When the boom happened in the early 90's i started a small sports cards business.. by buying a pack of cards.
I used to buy & sell at trade shows or flea markets and it took me literally from one end of Canada in BC to the other side in Ontario.
Later i sold them all off for one giant lump sum.. i did not get all that much cash really but i had LOTS of cards.
it wasn't long before i got the itch again and went and bought a pack of cards at the convenience store.
Once again my small amount spent was built up into a larger & larger value.
I collected them all.. Hockey, Baseball, Football etc

i once opened a pack and found one signed limited edition worth $550 according to price guides.
I sold it to the hockey store guy i bought the pack of cards from.

Nice story huh ?  Grin

Well.. are hockey cards a "currency" ?

I had often used them as a currency or at times they kind of acted like one.
But are they ?

NO !

They are a collectible item with varied value assigned to them but not a currency.

So i think what i see in Altcoin town is people claiming innovation.
..on things that are not really a currency.

When people tout innovation over Bitcoin i think it needs to be a fair comparison.
Currency to Currency.. not Steem or Ethereum vs Bitcoin.
I don't see see either of those two as any type of innovation over Bitcoin.
I would view them as "currency like" with elements of a currency integrated into them
but at the end of the day not a true real currency.. for that intended purpose.
And if you agree then you really can't be claiming those two examples are innovative.

Making something that is *different* is not innovation.

And i know you are all *mostly* willing to say ahh well fuck it.. close enough.
Simply because you NEED to make some money.. and NOW !

Placing hollow pointless temporary support into projects that do not deserve it (or making them)
Is doing Crypto far more harm than good.

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October 08, 2016, 10:54:48 AM
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"token" scheme with or with a blockchain
With or with a blockchain. That's quite a scheme.

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October 08, 2016, 01:00:58 PM
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I've spent 3 years innovating and I finally have all the pieces in place.

You want innovation?  Check back here in about a month when I let rip with our ANN :p

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October 08, 2016, 01:14:45 PM
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I've spent 3 years innovating and I finally have all the pieces in place.

You want innovation?  Check back here in about a month when I let rip with our ANN :p

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October 08, 2016, 01:36:55 PM
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We all know there are so many altcoins claiming to be innovative asides bitcoin, but since everyone is making money off it - I see no harm to bitcoin. It sorts of portray bitcoin as the good old granddaddy. Grin
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October 09, 2016, 02:09:39 AM
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I've spent 3 years innovating and I finally have all the pieces in place.

You want innovation?  Check back here in about a month when I let rip with our ANN :p

pic or it didnt happen (yet?)

either way, i call bull shit but Id love to be proven wrong.

This post sums up why all this bullshit is a scam
Read It. Hate It. Change the facts that it represents.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1606638.msg16139644#msg16139644
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Innovation shows up everyday, we just don't seem to notice sometimes

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October 09, 2016, 10:18:02 AM
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Innovation shows up everyday, we just don't seem to notice sometimes


As he said earlier.. Pic's or it didn't happen ..not more hollow rabble please.

Show me the "digital currency innovation" that you all rail on endlessly about.

What ? Ripple ?
No Block-Chain = Innovation ? Making it more centralized + corporate.

Doge ?
Aping LTC's shit with a long dead unfunny meme ?

Ethereum ?
The scammy manipulated ICO APP's platform ?

Steem ?
A fucking blogging pyramid scheme ?

Like gimme a fucking break people.  Roll Eyes
Can we just grow the fuck up already and start acting like adults ?
And finally move on from the childish little scammy antics for profit ?

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