System building

[ElectricMucus]

Doesn't sound much different from AnCap.

Well there is regenacy inside a large corporation, at least the ones which currently exists. Under anarchism those couldn't exit but there are so in tune with capitalism. Capitalism introduces a concept called a legal personality, an abstract concept consisting of an entity. These entities are supposed to be in charge of cooperations, be liable under law and so on. It separates the subject from the object, and so creates the illusion of personal non-liability.

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Capitalism introduces a concept called a legal personality, an abstract concept consisting of an entity. These entities are supposed to be in charge of cooperations, be liable under law and so on. It separates the subject from the object, and so creates the illusion of personal non-liability.

Capitalism didn't create that legal concept, governments did.

[ElectricMucus]

Capitalism introduces a concept called a legal personality, an abstract concept consisting of an entity. These entities are supposed to be in charge of cooperations, be liable under law and so on. It separates the subject from the object, and so creates the illusion of personal non-liability.

Capitalism didn't create that legal concept, governments did.

Gotcha,
governments are a similar legal concept. They too are entities providing the illusion of non-liability.

Somebody lobbied for that law, and I think it was wealthy capitalists.

[Richy_T]

Capitalism introduces a concept called a legal personality, an abstract concept consisting of an entity. These entities are supposed to be in charge of cooperations, be liable under law and so on. It separates the subject from the object, and so creates the illusion of personal non-liability.

Capitalism didn't create that legal concept, governments did.

Indeed. All capitalism really is is the ability to retain the excess value created from trade. Banks, loans and all the other financial stuff arises from that but corporations are a government created fiction. It can be called more properly corporatism though it might legitimately be called fascism if that term hadn't completely been distorted in it's usage (by the left, no surprise).

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Capitalism introduces a concept called a legal personality, an abstract concept consisting of an entity. These entities are supposed to be in charge of cooperations, be liable under law and so on. It separates the subject from the object, and so creates the illusion of personal non-liability.

Capitalism didn't create that legal concept, governments did.

Gotcha,
governments are a similar legal concept. They too are entities providing the illusion of non-liability

Yes, but government wasn't created by capitalism either.

[ElectricMucus]

Capitalism can't create anything since it is created, by everybody
The term is over- and mis-used for a lot of things. But not only that but every other *-ism as well. It it counter intuitive to use them actually. I'll try to express my true meaning in more detail in future discussions.  

Back to business: Shall it be law to have an entity called a "legal personality" which is liable for the actions of a corporation?
I say: Nay!

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Now that quite a few of us are already or rapidly approaching "wealthy" status I thought I would bump this to see if anyone is seriously interested in building a/o cooperating to build a new system. I don't believe it will be long before many of us here get to choose how we lead the rest of our lives. Some of us will choose jim beam, coke and hookers (power to you), but for the rest of us serious about political reform through practical example, I ask you to either post here or contact me directly. We are very near to having the power to choose the world we live in, let's make the most of it.