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February 03, 2017, 05:08:50 PM
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I have an account with a Indian reputed wallet company and I have sent 1.5382 BTC  erroneously from my Permanent BTC address to my temporarily created BTC Address which was created when I sent BTC to someone else earlier from the SAME Wallet., the transactions was successful and 1.5382 BTC has been deducted from my main wallet.

After that I felt I have sent BTC to my BTC Address which was temporarily created in an earlier transaction, however I hope that the BTC address is also pertains to me and BTC will get back/reverse to my main BTC Address.  But it has not happened, accordingly  I contact support and submit the problem and matter was under correspondence since one month. Today they intimated following (.)  QUOTE (.)
 

The wallet address we provided to you is your address and we recognize any bitcoin coming into that address (technically called a listener) and we will give those credit to your (COMPANY NAME)  wallet. However, this is only the mechanism for you to deposit bitcoin into your wallet. We keep moving these funds to cold storage periodically to secure your funds on the background for any unforeseen circumstances our server could face.

When you send out bitcoin, we debit your (COMPANY NAME) wallet balance but the bitcoin goes out from the global pool that is dedicated for sending out the transactions. The temporary addresses that gets generated at this time wont belong to you in any manner. We also will be consolidating the sends (like let us say in that same minute if 3 customers are sending out bitcoin, then all these three happen under the same transaction hash and from our one temporary address). The address is public in nature and any one can put bitcoin into it, but no claims can be done on them as such address will belong to none. Also we wont be able to credit them to your (COMPANY NAME) wallet or reverse such transactions. (UNQUOTE)
In this matter please clarify whether above reply is correct and I have lost my 1.5382 BTC ?
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February 03, 2017, 05:21:48 PM
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Why you don't post the TRX hash? Just for try to understand what happened.

Also, if transaction is confirmed , i think that you cannot delete this .

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February 03, 2017, 05:25:31 PM
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 I have purchased BTC through onlinebank transaction, the temporary BTC Address means, earlier I have sent BTC from my same wallet to anyone and then in my hash link a new BTC Address has been created automatically in place of my main BTC Address during the transacations
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February 03, 2017, 05:31:36 PM
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I have an account with a Indian reputed wallet and I have sent 1.5382 BTC  erroneously from my Permanent BTC address to my temporarily created BTC Address which was created when I sent BTC to someone else from the SAME Wallet earlier, the transactions was successful and 1.5382 BTC has been deducted from my main wallet.   After that I felt I have sent BTC to my temporarily created BTC Address, immediately I contact support and submit the report to them and correspondence was on going.  Today they intimated following (.)  QUOTE (.)

The wallet address we provided to you is your address and we recognize any bitcoin coming into that address (technically called a listener) and we will give those credit to your (COMPANY NAME)  wallet. However, this is only the mechanism for you to deposit bitcoin into your wallet. We keep moving these funds to cold storage periodically to secure your funds on the background for any unforeseen circumstances our server could face.

When you send out bitcoin, we debit your (COMPANY NAME) wallet balance but the bitcoin goes out from the global pool that is dedicated for sending out the transactions. The temporary addresses that gets generated at this time wont belong to you in any manner. We also will be consolidating the sends (like let us say in that same minute if 3 customers are sending out bitcoin, then all these three happen under the same transaction hash and from our one temporary address). The address is public in nature and any one can put bitcoin into it, but no claims can be done on them as such address will belong to none. Also we wont be able to credit them to your (COMPANY NAME) wallet or reverse such transactions. (UNQUOTE)
In this matter please clarify whether above reply is correct and I have lost my 1.5382 BTC ?

 You're not being clear enough for anyone to help you.  What security did you purchase with these Bitcoins?  There is no such thing as a temporary Bitcoin address - this is the beauty of Bitcoin; addresses are permanent!

I have purchased BTC through onlinebank transaction, the temporary BTC Address means, earlier I have sent BTC from my same wallet to anyone and then in my hash link a new BTC Address has been created automatically in place of my main BTC Address during the transacations
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February 03, 2017, 05:58:01 PM
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 You're not being clear enough for anyone to help you.  What security did you purchase with these Bitcoins?  There is no such thing as a temporary Bitcoin address - this is the beauty of Bitcoin; addresses are permanent!

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February 03, 2017, 06:03:30 PM
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Who is the company and what were you trying to do with them?

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February 03, 2017, 06:07:02 PM
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Who is the company and what were you trying to do with them?

Unocoin, I try to get back my BTC to my main wallet
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February 03, 2017, 06:29:43 PM
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Your post is a little hard to follow.

If I understand you correctly, you created a "temporary" address on a website some time ago in order to receive Bitcoin there. Then recently you accidentally sent some more Bitcoin to that "temporary" address but it has not appeared in your account. Is this correct?

If so, there is nothing that users here can do to help you. All you can do is contact their support. It would be best if you had the txid of the transaction in question so that you can prove to them that Bitcoin was sent to the address.

Also, there are no such things as temporary addresses. Addresses are not temporary, they can be sent to multiple times, whenever you want, and the network will not care. However the wallet provider may stop tracking addresses if they so choose, although doing so is typically considered bad as people still send Bitcoin to previously used addresses.

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February 03, 2017, 06:43:27 PM
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Your post is a little hard to follow.

If I understand you correctly, you created a "temporary" address on a website some time ago in order to receive Bitcoin there. Then recently you accidentally sent some more Bitcoin to that "temporary" address but it has not appeared in your account. Is this correct?

If so, there is nothing that users here can do to help you. All you can do is contact their support. It would be best if you had the txid of the transaction in question so that you can prove to them that Bitcoin was sent to the address.

Also, there are no such things as temporary addresses. Addresses are not temporary, they can be sent to multiple times, whenever you want, and the network will not care. However the wallet provider may stop tracking addresses if they so choose, although doing so is typically considered bad as people still send Bitcoin to previously used addresses.
Sir I am not created any temporary address, my case history is as under :-


On 27th Dec. 2016 at 09.58.05 hrs I have remitted 0.16375102 BTC to 36Vde3ZR7JuhsoKSpTDoLJx6JVhxy765h8 from my Unocoin BTC Address 3PA6kinhz2pHXcHNKzLKQP6roC4wpByaKK. But in the transaction hash link my BTC address has been shown as 391eM7KQSyjCUBtRUZT1dcgF29FMQodwuB instead of 3PA6kinhz2pHXcHNKzLKQP6roC4wpByaKK. This means the BTC Address allotted during this transaction in behalf of 3PA6kinhz2pHXcHNKzLKQP6roC4wpByaKK i.e. 391eM7KQSyjCUBtRUZT1dcgF29FMQodwuB is also pertains me I have no awareness about who or in which wallet created this new BTC Address. Because this ID has been created my Unocoin wallet while above transaction made. . In this connection the transaction hash Link may kindly be perused.
https://insight.bitpay.com/tx/dcb6f082e6d63fab9cf96058dd3607c2b4fa0ea087d7fad52f8ae3807f4a4431

Further On 30th Dec. 2016 I need to be remit 1.5382 BTC to same vendor to his BTC Address 36Vde3ZR7JuhsoKSpTDoLJx6JVhxy765h8. But erroneously I have send the BTC to 391eM7KQSyjCUBtRUZT1dcgF29FMQodwuB which BTC Address has been generated in my previous transaction on behalf of my Unocoin BTC Address (i.e the BTC address is also pertains to me) and the transaction status has been shown as Payment Successful. That means this BTC should be credited into my BTC account 391eM7KQSyjCUBtRUZT1dcgF29FMQodwuB.

https://bitref.com/391eM7KQSyjCUBtRUZT1dcgF29FMQodwuB

So I don’t know in which wallet I have to use to see my this newly created BTC address to get me the BTC Back.

In view of above, it is requested  to Unocoin support to findout my BTC and same may be credited into my Wallet.  After prolonged correspondence, I have received following reply from them
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The wallet address we provided to you is your address and we recognize any bitcoin coming into that address (technically called a listener) and we will give those credit to your Unocoin wallet. However, this is only the mechanism for you to deposit bitcoin into your wallet. We keep moving these funds to cold storage periodically to secure your funds on the background for any unforeseen circumstances our server could face.

When you send out bitcoin, we debit your Unocoin wallet balance but the bitcoin goes out from the global pool that is dedicated for sending out the transactions. The temporary addresses that gets generated at this time wont belong to you in any manner. We also will be consolidating the sends (like let us say in that same minute if 3 customers are sending out bitcoin, then all these three happen under the same transaction hash and from our one temporary address). The address is public in nature and any one can put bitcoin into it, but no claims can be done on them as such address will belong to none. Also we wont be able to credit them to your Unocoin wallet or reverse such transactions. (UNQUOTE).  So please guide me there is any possibility to get my BTC
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February 03, 2017, 07:20:57 PM
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i think he cannot get it back.. If you just sent it to a wrong address or in the address you temporary created you have the access of this temporary created.. I check the address where you send btc and its already spent .. Its already send the whole amount to another address...
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February 03, 2017, 07:32:42 PM
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 I have purchased BTC through onlinebank transaction, the temporary BTC Address means, earlier I have sent BTC from my same wallet to anyone and then in my hash link a new BTC Address has been created automatically in place of my main BTC Address during the transacations


Seems to me like you messed things up. If I understand you correctly, You sent Bitcoin out of your wallet and until now, The bitcoin hasn't arrived yet? Unfortunately It could be impossible to recover The bitcoin sent. For one, Bitcoin transactions are not traceable and It appears you gifted someone your bitcoin unknowingly.

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The wallet address we provided to you is your address and we
recognize any bitcoin coming into that address (technically
called a listener) and we will give those credit to your
(COMPANY NAME) wallet. However, this is only the
mechanism for you to deposit bitcoin into your wallet. We
keep moving these funds to cold storage periodically to
secure your funds on the background for any unforeseen
circumstances our server could face.


If you sent them correctly, They would have been received by now. And Just so you know The Third-Party exchange company won't be able to help.

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February 03, 2017, 08:01:55 PM
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Sir I am not created any temporary address, my case history is as under :-


On 27th Dec. 2016 at 09.58.05 hrs I have remitted 0.16375102 BTC to 36Vde3ZR7JuhsoKSpTDoLJx6JVhxy765h8 from my Unocoin BTC Address 3PA6kinhz2pHXcHNKzLKQP6roC4wpByaKK. But in the transaction hash link my BTC address has been shown as 391eM7KQSyjCUBtRUZT1dcgF29FMQodwuB instead of 3PA6kinhz2pHXcHNKzLKQP6roC4wpByaKK. This means the BTC Address allotted during this transaction in behalf of 3PA6kinhz2pHXcHNKzLKQP6roC4wpByaKK i.e. 391eM7KQSyjCUBtRUZT1dcgF29FMQodwuB is also pertains me I have no awareness about who or in which wallet created this new BTC Address. Because this ID has been created my Unocoin wallet while above transaction made. . In this connection the transaction hash Link may kindly be perused.
https://insight.bitpay.com/tx/dcb6f082e6d63fab9cf96058dd3607c2b4fa0ea087d7fad52f8ae3807f4a4431
Just because the transaction was sent from 391eM7KQSyjCUBtRUZT1dcgF29FMQodwuB does not mean that that address is yours. Many online wallets do not actually give you personal addresses. Rather you should think of it as you are depositing Bitcoin into the services wallet, and they in turn have a something on their system that says that you are entitled to withdraw that amount from their wallet, but not necessarily from the addresses in which you deposited. As such, the address above is not actually your address.

Further On 30th Dec. 2016 I need to be remit 1.5382 BTC to same vendor to his BTC Address 36Vde3ZR7JuhsoKSpTDoLJx6JVhxy765h8. But erroneously I have send the BTC to 391eM7KQSyjCUBtRUZT1dcgF29FMQodwuB which BTC Address has been generated in my previous transaction on behalf of my Unocoin BTC Address (i.e the BTC address is also pertains to me) and the transaction status has been shown as Payment Successful. That means this BTC should be credited into my BTC account 391eM7KQSyjCUBtRUZT1dcgF29FMQodwuB.

https://bitref.com/391eM7KQSyjCUBtRUZT1dcgF29FMQodwuB
As I said earlier, this is not the case. That address is not your deposit address and thus the Bitcoin will not be credited to your account but rather someone else's.

With this issue, I highly doubt you will get the Bitcoin back. You have essentially given it away to whoever has that deposit address. You can contact their customer support however I think it is unlikely that they will credit your account with the Bitcoin, although it may be possible. However there is nothing that users here can do to help you. This is entirely a service issue.

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February 03, 2017, 08:47:32 PM
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The address is public in nature and any one can put bitcoin into it[1], but no claims can be done on them as such address will belong to none[2]. Also we wont be able to credit them to your (COMPANY NAME) wallet or reverse such transactions.
They're saying you can't get it back. They can't credit the funds you mistakenly sent to that address. Nor can they reverse them.

But, I wonder why not? That address seems to be controlled by UNOCOIN, so they should have control/access to any funds sent there.
As for proving those funds were yours and it was indeed sent to that address, then a signed message and the TX should be enough.

1. Anyone can put bitcoin into it but, tracing which funds came from which address shouldn't be too hard. Then it'd be just a matter of proving ownership.
2. This is what I don't get. It may not belong to users, but UNOCOIN should have control of this address. 391eM7KQSyjCUBtRUZT1dcgF29FMQodwuB is the address that sent 0.16375102 BTC on behalf of OP's address 3PA6kinhz2pHXcHNKzLKQP6roC4wpByaKK. So UNOCOIN must have control of that address. Or am I missing something?

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February 03, 2017, 09:31:26 PM
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The only possibility to get back this bitcoins, is contacting support. Only your exchange (UNOCOIN) can recover it, try sending another email to support. If they don't want to help you, you lost this bitcoins. For new transactions revise two times before sending to another address.
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February 03, 2017, 09:32:27 PM
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You'd need to contact the service's support for such a thing if you don't have access to the private key yourself.
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February 03, 2017, 10:45:40 PM
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Things don't look good for you mate and you say a month passed Sad maybe try check through your emails you might have got a notification of where funds were spent/received.

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