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April 17, 2020, 07:00:17 AM
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There appears to be no end in sight for the COVID-19 disaster. While a long term shutdown of people's liberties is certainly not a great idea, the situation remains. How is the government planning to handle the viral threat after ending the shutdown? When people go back to their daily lives and put the crisis in the back of their minds, the virus will still be out there. It seems the safest bet is to think for yourself and not depend on government guidelines. Stay safe and thoughtful of the people around you. Individuals collectively have the power to reduce the scale of this disaster.

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April 17, 2020, 07:52:32 AM
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This would be counter productive. If you withdraw lockdown then there is risk of spreading the virus. There is nothing can be done at this moment. Don't travel, drive or engage in the market. Previously it was thought that virus dies in 26 to 27 degree celcius. But experiment tell us that virus can survive in 70 degree. So, coronavirus is very strong and it is adapting with situations. Pandemic strikes in history. We should think that this is the beginning. It will cost millions of lives before it stopped.
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April 17, 2020, 01:56:23 PM
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It's a complicated situation, not only for US but the entire world
In the country I live the next week people will open their business, the president want to open economy as soon as possible, just like Donald Trump, and I'm afraid that we will have a huge number of infecteds in a few weeks, because until now with the lockdown the situation is controlled

The same problem we are facing in our country. Most of the countries cannot afford a lock down for more than a month, because they do not have the funds to feed the people. The more the lock down continues, then it will have more bad effect on the world's economy.

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April 17, 2020, 04:24:35 PM
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If the world is about to be eaten by the pandemic would we just sit and watch or act in time?
This is the World's problem puzzle that we need to solve. In able to so I think it is time to put out the differences and Unite as one to fight our common foe. I believe that Unity brings prosperity for all of us inhabitant of Earth. Lockdown is worse now people die because of hunger no work means more income and no income means no more food in the table of the families who struggle to live and survive this pandemic.

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April 17, 2020, 04:34:50 PM
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Lockdown needs to stay until the infections would be highly decreased.
Social distancing is a way to eliminate the virus and it has worked in a lot of countries around the world - the rate has been decreased till governments has taken this measure but it needs to wait sometime in order to see the real results.
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April 17, 2020, 06:10:14 PM
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This would be counter productive. If you withdraw lockdown then there is risk of spreading the virus. There is nothing can be done at this moment. Don't travel, drive or engage in the market. Previously it was thought that virus dies in 26 to 27 degree celcius. But experiment tell us that virus can survive in 70 degree. So, coronavirus is very strong and it is adapting with situations. Pandemic strikes in history. We should think that this is the beginning. It will cost millions of lives before it stopped.


Lockdown needs to stay until the infections would be highly decreased.
Social distancing is a way to eliminate the virus and it has worked in a lot of countries around the world - the rate has been decreased till governments has taken this measure but it needs to wait sometime in order to see the real results.


Shutdowns are counterproductive because we are simply comparing two risks:
1. Self-destruction by unlimited CV;
2. Self-destruction by starvation and other things from shutdowns.

Nobody knows what will happen with the CV risk. While there absolutely is a Covid-19, other Covids, and at least several Coronaviruses, many of them have been with us for years. They haven't been destructive to society as a whole. Sure, people die. But it seems that people die from all kinds of things... not only the Coronavirus series. People have been dying from something for thousands of years.

Almost everybody knows what will happen if shutdowns continue and are increased:
- Mass starvation lack of food production and shipment.
- Economy total disruption from changes in the flow of money.
- Disease setting in from things other than CV.
- People with all kinds time on their hands (no work) forming gangs and little armies that kill off police and anybody else they want to kill. Remember, big as the US and State reserves are, when they get hungry, they will stop being efficient, and maybe stop obeying orders to quell the gangs, even if they could manage to do so.
- Attacks from nations that stop their shutdowns, onto nations that remain weak and shut down.

Want peace and prosperity? Shut down the shutdowns. Remember that there is so much contradictory info about CV, that it may not be much worse than the standard flu... if allowed to simply run its course. Check out the series of Coronavirus videos at The Highwire - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6oOuhSx7ESreh6m9LGy6Q/videos - where doctors and heads of state are interviewed to show us that the CV pandemic is a panic caused by the media rather than a real reason for a pandemic.

And certainly let us all know if you find some concrete, non-media-hype, that proves that CV is a bigger threat than the shutdowns. I mean concrete. Things that are literally documented by people going in and proving that they went in and saw how bad CV really is... or isn't.

Include real doctor-backed reports rather than second-hand stuff that some doctors said. Investigate before you make your final decision about what to do. If you guess wrong, or don't even realize that you are guessing, you help to destroy yourself and the rest of us.

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April 18, 2020, 01:20:49 PM
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Coronavirus has been placed into people through the flu shot. It is activated by the Covid-19 activator. Generally speaking, people under 60-y-o will not be affected. People who are over 80, who have had flu shots, will be affected most. It seems that some people in the medical have set this into play intentionally.

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TRUMP WARNS OF SMALL BUSINESS REVOLT: SAYS SOME STATES CAN REOPEN BEFORE MAY 1



And that cannot happen soon enough. Tyrant Anthony Fauci wants as many Americans fearful and living in poverty as possible and as long as small businesses obey his commands, he will get his way.  However, it appears that the tides are finally shifting and many Americans may be realizing that the government only has power over them if they allow it. It looks like Trump has figured this out too.

The elitists may have pushed too far this time and tried to control too much by lying about and manipulating the coronavirus data. This could be the end of many of those in power. According to a report by The Washington Times,  small businesses may take "economic recovery into their own hands by going back to work before federal or statewide coronavirus closures are lifted." If that happens, people around the world will know that all the governments and the elitists of the world no longer have nearly as much power over everyone else as they once did.

Trump and the mainstream media (who willingly lied and reported manipulated data to panic the masses) will go down in history with the other tyrants of the world.  The trust in mainstream media will wane because of this and unless Trump tells the entire country to resume their lives and reopen their businesses and never let a command to eliminate your livelihood stop you again. It isn't likely he'll do that.  He'll pander to the elitists while "allowing" some areas and businesses to reopen. It's a fine line, but he will not likely be on the side of human rights, as unfortunately, he hasn't been during this entire scamdemic.


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April 19, 2020, 02:26:35 AM
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This would be counter productive. If you withdraw lockdown then there is risk of spreading the virus. There is nothing can be done at this moment. Don't travel, drive or engage in the market. Previously it was thought that virus dies in 26 to 27 degree celcius. But experiment tell us that virus can survive in 70 degree. So, coronavirus is very strong and it is adapting with situations. Pandemic strikes in history. We should think that this is the beginning. It will cost millions of lives before it stopped.

Isolation and mitigation should always be done in the presence of an incurable virus, this is so basic it is baffling how the USA is failing so hard at it.
It is reasonable to leave it to the States, and within States smaller areas should be isolated depending on situation. If you have confirmed cases in a community, the logical thing to do is to quarantine it and treat the patients.

Pretending nothing is occurring is irresponsible at beast, or right Machiavellian at worst. Who happens to need to go out to work? Not exactly the wealthy who can easily stay home for months...

So either you don't care, or you actually want certain segment of the population to just go. Trump is now doing an universal wage kind of thing, exactly what socialists want. But then, those 1200 USD everyone is getting comes from printing money... It is a facade that could cause the collapse of the USD.

So restarting the economy becomes urgent no matter the cost. He is literally gambling at least one quarter of the population, by letting the virus spread.

A new study says the virus survives 60°C, so forget the summer theory. And besides, its not like people don't have air conditioners and such in office buildings and malls where the virus can easily spread.

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