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February 05, 2017, 04:17:29 AM
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I'm fairly new in bitcoin community , so I can't tell how true what you say is, but it's still unfair for certain persons Smiley

In general term anyway, computer world changed a lot , especially since the 90, there has been the hype at first with website, php, then same hype/bubble with web 2.0, Android applications, all serving the same thing over and over again pretending at some innovation  to get increased worth, and the IT industry become very speculative and less and less people really want to bother with code or see it as something cool and fun like it could be before.

Personally im also an oddball, I pretty much left companies behind some years ago because I think professionnal IT is becoming whatever, especially since web 2.0 era, people putting software stack upon software stack upon software to get 40mo to have the most simple application, framework get bigger and bigger all the time and software quality is decreasing à lot.

And especially in france, the culture is not that much tech friendly or on open market, id say on the over all very conservative, and I dont see a lot of companies pulling that much great things currently.

But it's why I took lot of time to develop systems that are much smaller and easy to grasp for even noob developpers, that can still deal with internet standard, like javascript & json, rpc, dynamic typing, hierarchised data, and can replace boost and templated c++ very efficiently for lot of different purposes, in a way inspired from AS3 logic.

Actually I crossed the blockchain world accidentelly, but I was already interested in developping small optimised and portable solution to deal with distributed component, asynchronous requests, keeping things safe and private in open world, and I was turning this problem around until I stumbled on blockchain who completly solve all this in very elegant manner.

It's how I came up with making a coin and implementing the functions needed to run a blockchain as a proof of concept application for my framework. But it's already quite advanced, especially on optimising parallele systems, dealing with json dynamic data, having a very robust and safe memory system.

Need less to say I did all this for free without having clear commercial objective in mind, im still un sure how to goes with this, but ico still seem to me a good way to rise funds for projects, and still keep the possibility to maintain high quality open source software without having to deal with all the complexity of patents, NDA, proprietary software, and without having to ressort on sun day afternoon coding or part time developpers who drop a line of code when they have free time.

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February 05, 2017, 11:53:29 PM
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No one is forced to give anyone money. So you ask the wrong question
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February 06, 2017, 03:17:31 AM
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No one is forced to give anyone money. So you ask the wrong question

You are right no one is forced to get lured into a Pyramid scheme.

Problem is when it happens it turns that person into a corrupt sleazeball searching for other victims to pass the buck on.

Trust me i love your precocious angle on it but you are missing the reality of it here.

For example i can right now start an ICO and chances are there would be a lot of investors.
I have been around for ages and seem fairly trust worthy.. that is far more than enough.
Once i have ! god damn fucking MILLION dollars in cash and time goes by and i have started to dip into the money for random items like new houses and fur coats and rings for my girl-friend / wife then i start to wonder hmmm.. maybe i should just tell these Investards at Bitcointalk that "Haxors" got me or some other cliche'd excuse.

AKA: Pulling a Paul Vernon from Cryptsy (pulling a BigVern)

And to be honest i probably would too.. it's too easy.
Especially when you hold a dim view on the useless broken English greedy little morons that show up here desperate for profits.
After a while you prob have lost so much respect for this trash that you figure hey, fuck 'em.

Maybe we can do the "due diligence" dance now ?

Or maybe i can tell you all to research scams and listen to the testimonials from those victimized by them ?
You might see similarities to this bullshit ?
No, YOU WILL !

You late comer's popped up here spouting off about entitlement and minding my own business so you can siphon cash off the bigger greedy fool.

Verbal gymnastics don't keep you out of jail or fool the dreg's that come here either.
All this crap is painfully transparent and obvious.

No one is being fooled by the usual bullshit from the usual suspects with the usual cliche'd defense retorts.
Especially not the IRS, FBI, Police, FiNCEN, SEC, Home Land Security etc.
Cry FUD to them and see how well it works profiteers.  Cheesy
Feel free to tell them you are "entitled" to money.
..just don't be surprised if they have a dim view on your silly Altcoin rhetoric.

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February 06, 2017, 05:59:40 AM
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No one is forced to give anyone money. So you ask the wrong question
For example i can right now start an ICO and chances are there would be a lot of investors.

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Are you fuckin delussional? You are the biggest fuckin joke in this place!!!

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For example i can right now start an ICO and chances are there would be a lot of investors.
For example i can right now start an ICO and chances are there would be a lot of investors.
For example i can right now start an ICO and chances are there would be a lot of investors.
For example i can right now start an ICO and chances are there would be a lot of investors.
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February 06, 2017, 06:44:11 AM
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No one is forced to give anyone money. So you ask the wrong question
For example i can right now start an ICO and chances are there would be a lot of investors.

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Spoetnik just reached a new level of retardation!!!!!

Are you fuckin delussional? You are the biggest fuckin joke in this place!!!

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Please call 911! My stomach just burst!!! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

For example i can right now start an ICO and chances are there would be a lot of investors.
For example i can right now start an ICO and chances are there would be a lot of investors.
For example i can right now start an ICO and chances are there would be a lot of investors.
For example i can right now start an ICO and chances are there would be a lot of investors.


54 people said YES including many older users such as exchange staff.

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Yes    - 54 (36.5%)
No    - 86 (58.1%)
Maybe    - 8 (5.4%)

Total Voters: 148

So apparently yeah.. many people would like i said.

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February 07, 2017, 11:50:42 PM
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ICOs are the future. They break down financial barrier of entry. We will see mass rapid innovation because of them!

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February 08, 2017, 12:17:16 AM
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ICOs are the future. They break down financial barrier of entry. We will see mass rapid innovation because of them!
The problem is: they are not regulated by anything, you can start your own ICO and if you have enough charisma, you can bullshit your way thorough.
It is true that they give chance to project which in other way couldn't exists, but the question is: do we need all these projects?
Some of them are designed to lure people by promising them impossible features or are a straightforward scams - like PRISM.
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February 08, 2017, 12:29:25 AM
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most of what you said here doesn't make any sense to me.
i am saying if they are going to make a pump and dump coin to trade and make profit then why should they deserve any money?
Because it takes efforts to write 1000 lines of code ? I'm talking about actual projects here and not clones.Why would someone spend hours doing that if not for money ? They shouldn't deserve anything but we're not paying them out of our pockets,investors are.
But this is the issue, no one asked them to do it, they are doing it because they want, most on the free software scene do stuff just because they like the challenge and not for money, besides if they are any good then they could get recognition and then good pay doing something else.
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February 08, 2017, 04:06:00 AM
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Last thing i did with Bitcoin was donate it to a DEV at XDA for the work he did for free.
I told him to advertise his address.. i don't think he did but i looked right now and i see he has a second payment now.

I gave him maybe $23 worth.

At least he got a gesture of appreciation.
And i got him involved maybe supporting Bitcoin etc.

I have done work before and refused a donation etc.
Then you have guys around here who are demanding a payment of 1 million dollars before they will do any work.

ICO regulations and laws is the big problem i have.

You know people when i showed up here mid-2013 we all thought of "Premines" as bad.
So why are 100% premines (the ICO) acceptable ?

Simple.. morality changed.
It became acceptable because of how history played out.

Users did not want the hassle and expense of buying mining hardware to "support" a coin.
And yes it is support !
If you bought hardware to secure the block-chain then you are providing a useful function.

What happened ? SCRYPT ASICS.
Once those rolled out the markets were getting abused by whales super mining + dumping.
And more and more clones were getting rolled out at a fast pace.

Then the concept of the ICO took hold because BOTH SIDES seen an advantage.
Users dumped all their GPU's on eBay etc.
And dev's started side stepping the issue by doing direct release to ICO schemes.
This enabled cloners to REALLY start pumping shit out.. streamlining the process.

THEN MOST OF YOU SHOWED UP AFTER THE FACT

..thinking this is how it always was and SHOULD BE.

WRONG !

Just because you managed so far to get away with it does not mean you are doing something acceptable.
You all lowered the bar to ridiculous levels.. it's been scrapping on the ground for ages people and it's embarrassing
 Embarrassed

Reality Check:
Think of yourselves as investors all you want but..
Realize you are Lawless "Free Market" Investors.

FUD first & ask questions later™
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