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April 24, 2017, 07:42:18 AM
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Popularity of XT/Classic nodes rise in proportion to BU nodes:

https://coin.dance/nodes

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April 24, 2017, 07:44:01 AM
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Time and time again, we've seen that the number of nodes means absolutely nothing. It's very easy to fake those numbers by setting up fake nodes in bulk, so don't even bother monitoring nodes stats.

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April 24, 2017, 07:46:37 AM
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Time and time again, we've seen that the number of nodes means absolutely nothing. It's very easy to fake those numbers by setting up fake nodes in bulk, so don't even bother monitoring nodes stats.

Inverse sybil attack?

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April 24, 2017, 09:28:35 AM
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Yes, but compared to Bitcoin Core nodes, they are still insignificant. This really proves toward which solution the general people is dedicated. Miners can make believe regular people Unlimited is a wise choice, we clearly see in the nodes that hopefully people do not think so.
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April 24, 2017, 09:34:34 AM
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Yes, but compared to Bitcoin Core nodes, they are still insignificant. This really proves toward which solution the general people is dedicated. Miners can make believe regular people Unlimited is a wise choice, we clearly see in the nodes that hopefully people do not think so.

Which is to be expected when some sites censor out the choice of alternatives.

No choice of full node here: (no xt/classic/BU)

https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet

Bigger choice available here: (xt/classic/BU + core)

https://www.bitcoin.com/choose-your-wallet

Scaling and transaction rate: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532.msg6306#msg6306
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April 24, 2017, 09:48:36 AM
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Funnily enough, this attack seems to have come about a month after the last ones. So perhaps BU have failed to fix bugs that where responsibly disclosed, and now those bugs have become public knowledge? It would appear BU are not being funded by miners, or they would have employed people to fix them.

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April 24, 2017, 10:03:24 AM
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Yes, but compared to Bitcoin Core nodes, they are still insignificant. This really proves toward which solution the general people is dedicated. Miners can make believe regular people Unlimited is a wise choice, we clearly see in the nodes that hopefully people do not think so.

Which is to be expected when some sites censor out the choice of alternatives.

No choice of full node here: (no xt/classic/BU)

https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet

Bigger choice available here: (xt/classic/BU + core)

https://www.bitcoin.com/choose-your-wallet
Bitcoin.org is the site from the Core team and the official Bitcoin site.  They allow you to download their software, obviously.  The alternative full nodes that are available are irrelevant to Bitcoin.org and the Bitcoin Unlimited site doesn't offer for you to download Bitcoin Core.

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April 24, 2017, 10:45:00 AM
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Which is to be expected when some sites censor out the choice of alternatives.

No choice of full node here: (no xt/classic/BU)

https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet

Bigger choice available here: (xt/classic/BU + core)

https://www.bitcoin.com/choose-your-wallet
Bitcoin.org is the site from the Core team and the official Bitcoin site.  They allow you to download their software, obviously.  The alternative full nodes that are available are irrelevant to Bitcoin.org and the Bitcoin Unlimited site doesn't offer for you to download Bitcoin Core.

Technically, the Bitcoin Core site says that although it shares hosting with bitcoin.org, it's maintained separately:

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About the Bitcoin Core pages on Bitcoin.org

Bitcoin.org hosts several pages about Bitcoin Core as well as the Bitcoin Core downloads, but the Bitcoin.org and Bitcoin Core open source projects are run by separate teams.

So I could understand the Bitcoin Core pages in particular not linking to downloads for other clients, but would have expected the main bitcoin.org pages to be a little more open, transparent and impartial.

Also, if we are to maintain this notion that bitcoin has no owner or controlling central authority, we need to dispel this other, entirely contradictory, notion of an "official Bitcoin site".  
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