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September 17, 2017, 08:03:20 AM
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controversial fight
i think canelo alvares must win this fight, much boxing analys same with me this controversial fight

i think is only bussiness, next time can fight canelo vs GGG part II
if result draw in second fight can much money, difference is this macth not draw

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September 17, 2017, 08:54:06 AM
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What a scam this sport is.  I mean we all know some of the huge Vegas bookies and the Mafia or whoever pays off the judges the refs and whoever it takes to manipulate the results.  It's kinda like insider trading in Wall Street which happens more than we're lead to believe.

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September 17, 2017, 11:12:01 AM
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Many were failed about speculations. It ended up draw. The fight is really good. GGG is very strong at the latter rounds and Canelo is just playing it wisely and he won the six rounds. Good decision by Canelo for not go toe to toe with GGG. He will not gonna last if he go toe to toe or exchange punches with GGG. He dodged GGG's heavy punches. Some of them landed great but Canelo's chin is really good. I agree at the split draw decision because Canelo is pretty exhausted at the second half of the fight because the volume of his punches is very low while GGG is throwing more punches.
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September 17, 2017, 12:54:17 PM
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Ha! So the two best middleweight fighters (arguably)... are still the two best fighters! I'm sort of kicking myself here, personally thought there was just too little between them to call any sort of result and a 25/1 return on the draw should have deserved a small tiny bet. But did you see how everyone watching seemed to be rather pleased? Cause if a rematch doesn't ring in more cash, then I don't know what will! As Golovkin said after the match: "a drama show". Least I made a profit on a hedged 8-12 round bet.

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September 17, 2017, 03:03:41 PM
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well its a draw and we really don't know what happen it seems that both ends have their own fixers behind, maybe many gamblers loses their money
and mafias are very happy right now enjoying with their profits. lets wait what will be their plan after.

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September 17, 2017, 05:18:21 PM
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What a scam this sport is.  I mean we all know some of the huge Vegas bookies and the Mafia or whoever pays off the judges the refs and whoever it takes to manipulate the results.  It's kinda like insider trading in Wall Street which happens more than we're lead to believe.

I don't see how the result is a scam. Was a draw that farfetched? I think it's not an insane decision to give the fighters a draw on this one. Sure there was some retarded judge that gave Canelo a lot of rounds, but if you even out all the scoring it's pretty tight. I think it was good, and we the fans will get a rematch with a lot more hype than if yesterday someone was given a win.

In close matches, no matter the outcome, there will always be unhappy people about it. It is what it is.
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September 18, 2017, 02:26:12 AM
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In my perspective, if it would not be a draw I'll definitely go with Canelo as the winner. It's a tough match and as for the scoring, I'll leave triple G with less one point than canelo considering how he answered every blows.
I'm not a fan of Canelo and it's my first time to watch his fight so this is an unbias decision from me. I guess this fight was the nearest defeat for triple G  Shocked
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September 18, 2017, 05:28:39 AM
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In my perspective, if it would not be a draw I'll definitely go with Canelo as the winner. It's a tough match and as for the scoring, I'll leave triple G with less one point than canelo considering how he answered every blows.
I'm not a fan of Canelo and it's my first time to watch his fight so this is an unbias decision from me. I guess this fight was the nearest defeat for triple G  Shocked

Exactly, Canelo looks like winning than triple G, it's just rather unfair to settle for a draw but what can you say it's boxing and if you don't go with your own judge by knocking down your opponent it's likely to be decided against you.
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September 18, 2017, 09:09:25 AM
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Quite controversial but neither fighter did a lot of damage to the other. I guess this is all set up for a lucrative rematch. A cynical fan might say it was a fix to make sure there is a rematch?

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September 18, 2017, 10:10:35 AM
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Like Pacman's said this the chance for boxing to reclaim the trust of the people but then again they screwed up. Kodus for both fighters but a draw? I had it GGG won that fight. Boxing really became a business, In which promoters doesn't care about the essence of Boxing but instead they eye for the money. This is another example why a lot of Boxing fan before hates the sports now. A rematch would likely to happen and for sure it will happen early next year.

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September 18, 2017, 10:11:06 AM
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How wrong were we, lol. I was almost starting to lean towards over 11.5 as the odds were pretty juicy as well as the feel around the match could of told us something like this could happen.

Either way, nice fight, not great, and I'm hoping the rematch (has to be one) will be a bit more interesting Cheesy

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September 18, 2017, 11:30:23 AM
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In my perspective, if it would not be a draw I'll definitely go with Canelo as the winner. It's a tough match and as for the scoring, I'll leave triple G with less one point than canelo considering how he answered every blows.
I'm not a fan of Canelo and it's my first time to watch his fight so this is an unbias decision from me. I guess this fight was the nearest defeat for triple G  Shocked

Exactly, Canelo looks like winning than triple G, it's just rather unfair to settle for a draw but what can you say it's boxing and if you don't go with your own judge by knocking down your opponent it's likely to be decided against you.

Like Pacman's said this the chance for boxing to reclaim the trust of the people but then again they screwed up. Kodus for both fighters but a draw? I had it GGG won that fight. Boxing really became a business, In which promoters doesn't care about the essence of Boxing but instead they eye for the money. This is another example why a lot of Boxing fan before hates the sports now. A rematch would likely to happen and for sure it will happen early next year.

These replies show that some people saw Canelo as a winner and other saw Golovkin as the winner, so I guess the best decision was a draw, but most boxing experts point to a win of GGG. The 118-110 card in favor of Canelo by one of the judges was absolutely fucked tho.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/4483759/canelo-vs-ggg-who-is-adalaide-byrd-scorecard-controversial/

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September 19, 2017, 04:32:22 AM
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In my perspective, if it would not be a draw I'll definitely go with Canelo as the winner. It's a tough match and as for the scoring, I'll leave triple G with less one point than canelo considering how he answered every blows.
I'm not a fan of Canelo and it's my first time to watch his fight so this is an unbias decision from me. I guess this fight was the nearest defeat for triple G  Shocked

Exactly, Canelo looks like winning than triple G, it's just rather unfair to settle for a draw but what can you say it's boxing and if you don't go with your own judge by knocking down your opponent it's likely to be decided against you.

Like Pacman's said this the chance for boxing to reclaim the trust of the people but then again they screwed up. Kodus for both fighters but a draw? I had it GGG won that fight. Boxing really became a business, In which promoters doesn't care about the essence of Boxing but instead they eye for the money. This is another example why a lot of Boxing fan before hates the sports now. A rematch would likely to happen and for sure it will happen early next year.

These replies show that some people saw Canelo as a winner and other saw Golovkin as the winner, so I guess the best decision was a draw, but most boxing experts point to a win of GGG. The 118-110 card in favor of Canelo by one of the judges was absolutely fucked tho.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/4483759/canelo-vs-ggg-who-is-adalaide-byrd-scorecard-controversial/

Just like what I said it's solely based on what I've seen on the fight and I wouldn't make a debate for who truly is the winner. I'm just an ordinary viewer, nothing else.
As for the official score card, Adelaide's point given to Canelo was remarkably weird and naive regarding how close the match was. Anyone who have watch the fight might raise their eyebrow on that scores.
Well, looks like triple G really won the fight if just Adelaide was not a judge on that day. (still on my eyes , Canelo won)
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September 19, 2017, 04:50:09 PM
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In my perspective, if it would not be a draw I'll definitely go with Canelo as the winner. It's a tough match and as for the scoring, I'll leave triple G with less one point than canelo considering how he answered every blows.
I'm not a fan of Canelo and it's my first time to watch his fight so this is an unbias decision from me. I guess this fight was the nearest defeat for triple G  Shocked

Exactly, Canelo looks like winning than triple G, it's just rather unfair to settle for a draw but what can you say it's boxing and if you don't go with your own judge by knocking down your opponent it's likely to be decided against you.

Like Pacman's said this the chance for boxing to reclaim the trust of the people but then again they screwed up. Kodus for both fighters but a draw? I had it GGG won that fight. Boxing really became a business, In which promoters doesn't care about the essence of Boxing but instead they eye for the money. This is another example why a lot of Boxing fan before hates the sports now. A rematch would likely to happen and for sure it will happen early next year.

These replies show that some people saw Canelo as a winner and other saw Golovkin as the winner, so I guess the best decision was a draw, but most boxing experts point to a win of GGG. The 118-110 card in favor of Canelo by one of the judges was absolutely fucked tho.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/4483759/canelo-vs-ggg-who-is-adalaide-byrd-scorecard-controversial/



That one judge who scored the fight 118-110 should be banished. But as per NSAC, will not suspend her and still can judge but won't work anytime soon. Her scoring is very controversial. Is she watching a different fight? Its not even reflective of the other two judges who score it very very very close. For me NSAC needs to suspend her and possible ban her from judging if she have made another controversial scoring in the future..

http://www.boxingscene.com/nsac-director-put-byrd-back-soon-still-judge--120609
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September 20, 2017, 12:03:31 PM
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In my perspective, if it would not be a draw I'll definitely go with Canelo as the winner. It's a tough match and as for the scoring, I'll leave triple G with less one point than canelo considering how he answered every blows.
I'm not a fan of Canelo and it's my first time to watch his fight so this is an unbias decision from me. I guess this fight was the nearest defeat for triple G  Shocked

Exactly, Canelo looks like winning than triple G, it's just rather unfair to settle for a draw but what can you say it's boxing and if you don't go with your own judge by knocking down your opponent it's likely to be decided against you.

Like Pacman's said this the chance for boxing to reclaim the trust of the people but then again they screwed up. Kodus for both fighters but a draw? I had it GGG won that fight. Boxing really became a business, In which promoters doesn't care about the essence of Boxing but instead they eye for the money. This is another example why a lot of Boxing fan before hates the sports now. A rematch would likely to happen and for sure it will happen early next year.

These replies show that some people saw Canelo as a winner and other saw Golovkin as the winner, so I guess the best decision was a draw, but most boxing experts point to a win of GGG. The 118-110 card in favor of Canelo by one of the judges was absolutely fucked tho.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/4483759/canelo-vs-ggg-who-is-adalaide-byrd-scorecard-controversial/



That one judge who scored the fight 118-110 should be banished. But as per NSAC, will not suspend her and still can judge but won't work anytime soon. Her scoring is very controversial. Is she watching a different fight? Its not even reflective of the other two judges who score it very very very close. For me NSAC needs to suspend her and possible ban her from judging if she have made another controversial scoring in the future..

http://www.boxingscene.com/nsac-director-put-byrd-back-soon-still-judge--120609

Apparently she has fucked up scoring on MMA too. What the hell does that middle aged woman know about boxing? They should get world champions as judges, that actually have fought and know how things work, not some old people with probably no boxing experience.


Anyway, the fight was nice. There's too much hate on the fight due the decision. Even with the Byrd disaster, the fight was tight. People saying GGG clearly won are obvious GGG fanboys. Canelo did a decent job.
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September 20, 2017, 12:43:41 PM
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In my perspective, if it would not be a draw I'll definitely go with Canelo as the winner. It's a tough match and as for the scoring, I'll leave triple G with less one point than canelo considering how he answered every blows.
I'm not a fan of Canelo and it's my first time to watch his fight so this is an unbias decision from me. I guess this fight was the nearest defeat for triple G  Shocked

Exactly, Canelo looks like winning than triple G, it's just rather unfair to settle for a draw but what can you say it's boxing and if you don't go with your own judge by knocking down your opponent it's likely to be decided against you.

Like Pacman's said this the chance for boxing to reclaim the trust of the people but then again they screwed up. Kodus for both fighters but a draw? I had it GGG won that fight. Boxing really became a business, In which promoters doesn't care about the essence of Boxing but instead they eye for the money. This is another example why a lot of Boxing fan before hates the sports now. A rematch would likely to happen and for sure it will happen early next year.

These replies show that some people saw Canelo as a winner and other saw Golovkin as the winner, so I guess the best decision was a draw, but most boxing experts point to a win of GGG. The 118-110 card in favor of Canelo by one of the judges was absolutely fucked tho.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/4483759/canelo-vs-ggg-who-is-adalaide-byrd-scorecard-controversial/



That one judge who scored the fight 118-110 should be banished. But as per NSAC, will not suspend her and still can judge but won't work anytime soon. Her scoring is very controversial. Is she watching a different fight? Its not even reflective of the other two judges who score it very very very close. For me NSAC needs to suspend her and possible ban her from judging if she have made another controversial scoring in the future..

http://www.boxingscene.com/nsac-director-put-byrd-back-soon-still-judge--120609

Apparently she has fucked up scoring on MMA too. What the hell does that middle aged woman know about boxing? They should get world champions as judges, that actually have fought and know how things work, not some old people with probably no boxing experience.


Anyway, the fight was nice. There's too much hate on the fight due the decision. Even with the Byrd disaster, the fight was tight. People saying GGG clearly won are obvious GGG fanboys. Canelo did a decent job.

I agree with you on that, I still can't believe where they do find these so called "experts" with absolutely no experience. I also agree that GGG did not clearly win, not at all. It was close and it was tight, Canelo did great IMO and I'm hoping for a rematch where Canelo will probably win (I'll bet on it) Cheesy.

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September 20, 2017, 08:02:38 PM
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In my perspective, if it would not be a draw I'll definitely go with Canelo as the winner. It's a tough match and as for the scoring, I'll leave triple G with less one point than canelo considering how he answered every blows.
I'm not a fan of Canelo and it's my first time to watch his fight so this is an unbias decision from me. I guess this fight was the nearest defeat for triple G  Shocked

Exactly, Canelo looks like winning than triple G, it's just rather unfair to settle for a draw but what can you say it's boxing and if you don't go with your own judge by knocking down your opponent it's likely to be decided against you.

Like Pacman's said this the chance for boxing to reclaim the trust of the people but then again they screwed up. Kodus for both fighters but a draw? I had it GGG won that fight. Boxing really became a business, In which promoters doesn't care about the essence of Boxing but instead they eye for the money. This is another example why a lot of Boxing fan before hates the sports now. A rematch would likely to happen and for sure it will happen early next year.

These replies show that some people saw Canelo as a winner and other saw Golovkin as the winner, so I guess the best decision was a draw, but most boxing experts point to a win of GGG. The 118-110 card in favor of Canelo by one of the judges was absolutely fucked tho.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/4483759/canelo-vs-ggg-who-is-adalaide-byrd-scorecard-controversial/



That one judge who scored the fight 118-110 should be banished. But as per NSAC, will not suspend her and still can judge but won't work anytime soon. Her scoring is very controversial. Is she watching a different fight? Its not even reflective of the other two judges who score it very very very close. For me NSAC needs to suspend her and possible ban her from judging if she have made another controversial scoring in the future..

http://www.boxingscene.com/nsac-director-put-byrd-back-soon-still-judge--120609

Apparently she has fucked up scoring on MMA too. What the hell does that middle aged woman know about boxing? They should get world champions as judges, that actually have fought and know how things work, not some old people with probably no boxing experience.


Anyway, the fight was nice. There's too much hate on the fight due the decision. Even with the Byrd disaster, the fight was tight. People saying GGG clearly won are obvious GGG fanboys. Canelo did a decent job.

Yes, as was expected the fight was really close as it can get. No clear winner to me, that's why a rematch is needed to settle once and for all who is the best boxer in the planet. Both of them really show the heart of a champion. It was indeed a fight of the year candidate as well.

So this lady judges has fucked up a lot of fights so its time for her to quit this job. This is not for her. Why not hire retired boxers or even referees to be the judge? I know that we are all humans and prone to mistakes but this is not the first time that this judge has messed up big time.
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