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April 26, 2017, 01:15:48 PM
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Hi
I have recently installed Litecoin on my Win10 Desktop.
I have then encrypted my wallet and set up a passphrase.
After that, I made a small purchase of LTC.
As it happened, some issues on my desktop required me to format and reinstall Windows.
I've made a backup of the wallet, and after re-installation and restoring the wallet - everything seemed fine - except for an error message on which I did not think was serious - the LTCs were in place.

I have then decide to make another LTC purchase, this time a bigger one, which was successful.

After a couple of days, I installed a Litecoin wallet on my android phone and, in wishing to get myself familiarized, I tried to send LTC from my desktop wallet to my android wallet.

I was then asked for my passphrase - and to my great surprise got a message that my passphrase is incorrect.

After several attempts, including different possible passphrases, using a few backup versions of the wallet and reinstalling Litecoin wallet on my desktop, I have reached to the following 2 options (arising from different backup files - made from the same PC).

1. I have the coins in my wallet - but my passphrase is not accepted.
2. My passphrase is accepted - but my balance is 0.

Please note that with option 2 - i did not set up a new passphrase, the wallet is already encrypted - I am just able to change my passphrase.
This is the error message I receive when I recover the wallet with the coins in it:
https://i.gyazo.com/7e3e2b8d46f48d428cf7733cb44b91cc.png
The file was named walletrrstored.dat

Any help will be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks in advance
Don
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April 26, 2017, 02:22:15 PM
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Sure you did this but just in case you missed it. Did you rename the backup back to wallet.dat first?
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April 26, 2017, 03:17:35 PM
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Hi
I have recently installed Litecoin on my Win10 Desktop.
I have then encrypted my wallet and set up a passphrase.
After that, I made a small purchase of LTC.
As it happened, some issues on my desktop required me to format and reinstall Windows.
I've made a backup of the wallet, and after re-installation and restoring the wallet - everything seemed fine - except for an error message on which I did not think was serious - the LTCs were in place.

I have then decide to make another LTC purchase, this time a bigger one, which was successful.

After a couple of days, I installed a Litecoin wallet on my android phone and, in wishing to get myself familiarized, I tried to send LTC from my desktop wallet to my android wallet.

I was then asked for my passphrase - and to my great surprise got a message that my passphrase is incorrect.

After several attempts, including different possible passphrases, using a few backup versions of the wallet and reinstalling Litecoin wallet on my desktop, I have reached to the following 2 options (arising from different backup files - made from the same PC).

1. I have the coins in my wallet - but my passphrase is not accepted.
2. My passphrase is accepted - but my balance is 0.

Please note that with option 2 - i did not set up a new passphrase, the wallet is already encrypted - I am just able to change my passphrase.
This is the error message I receive when I recover the wallet with the coins in it:

The file was named walletrrstored.dat

Any help will be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks in advance
Don

This is going to suck but.. have you tried re-downloading the block chain?

A -rescan command might help, I forget how to use it however.. I *believe* change the shortcut access name just add -rescan after the "blah blah file location"-rescan

try without a space then a space.
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April 26, 2017, 04:00:56 PM
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Sure you did this but just in case you missed it. Did you rename the backup back to wallet.dat first?
Yes, I did. I actually made a few backups, so named them differently upon backup, and renamed to wallet.dat upon restore.




This is going to suck but.. have you tried re-downloading the block chain?

A -rescan command might help, I forget how to use it however.. I *believe* change the shortcut access name just add -rescan after the "blah blah file location"-rescan

try without a space then a space.

I actually re-installed litecoin on my desktop a few times, and also made a fresh installation on a laptop. Phase 2 was to restore the wallet - and on both machines I end up on the same bottom line; either have an empty wallet with the passphrase I set-up originally acceptable, or have a wallet that has my coins recorded, but will not accept my passphrase.

I contacted the exchange where I purchased the coins from (via a bank transfer), they confirmed that the coins are still in the wallet addresses given at the time.
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April 27, 2017, 01:11:44 PM
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Any help will be GREATLY appreciated.

I would try to get the private key for the address(es) containing LTC.
Normally the same password is needed to unlock the wallet (to get Priv Key) as for transaction, but I don't know what's wrong there.
The people that use LTC (Core) wallet should be able to help with that.

Then import the private key(s) into electrum-ltc-portable and use that to send to your smartphone.
If that works and you still want to use Core, delete blockchain data, including the old Wallet.dat (obviously keep a backup for "you never know" cases) and transfer your money from Electrum to this fresh wallet.

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April 27, 2017, 01:23:32 PM
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Any help will be GREATLY appreciated.

I would try to get the private key for the address(es) containing LTC.
Normally the same password is needed to unlock the wallet (to get Priv Key) as for transaction, but I don't know what's wrong there.
The people that use LTC (Core) wallet should be able to help with that.

Then import the private key(s) into electrum-ltc-portable and use that to send to your smartphone.
If that works and you still want to use Core, delete blockchain data, including the old Wallet.dat (obviously keep a backup for "you never know" cases) and transfer your money from Electrum to this fresh wallet.

Thanks! You've just given me new hope...
But, I don't know how to do the first part - getting the private key for the addresses containing the LTCs?
Can you point me to someone/somewhere?

Regarding the second part - can I install electrum-ltc-portable on the same machine, or should I install it on a different one?
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April 27, 2017, 01:47:35 PM
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Any help will be GREATLY appreciated.

I would try to get the private key for the address(es) containing LTC.
Normally the same password is needed to unlock the wallet (to get Priv Key) as for transaction, but I don't know what's wrong there.
The people that use LTC (Core) wallet should be able to help with that.

Then import the private key(s) into electrum-ltc-portable and use that to send to your smartphone.
If that works and you still want to use Core, delete blockchain data, including the old Wallet.dat (obviously keep a backup for "you never know" cases) and transfer your money from Electrum to this fresh wallet.

Thanks! You've just given me new hope...
But, I don't know how to do the first part - getting the private key for the addresses containing the LTCs?
Can you point me to someone/somewhere?

Regarding the second part - can I install electrum-ltc-portable on the same machine, or should I install it on a different one?

As I said, I don't have Litecoin wallet installed. I will try to give you the commands from another wallet I have. They may not be the same in your case, but we can try...
Under Help you may have either an entry for "console", either "debug window" from which you can open console.

In the console you can use the command: help. This will show you the available commands.

You may have getaddresses to see all your addresses, however, you know where you have sent the funds from exchange and you can start retrieving that one.
There should be walletpassphrase or unlockwallet to unlock your wallet for such operations. It should be like walletpassphrase my_secret_password 30 to unlock for 30 minutes.
Then you can use dumpprivkey your_address to see the private key which can be imported into electrum.

If my "commands" don't work, I am sure that somebody with LTC client can help more.

Electrum can be installed on the same computer. Actually you can get the portable version that doesn't even need install. Just make sure you got the LTC one.

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April 27, 2017, 01:49:11 PM
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Any help will be GREATLY appreciated.

I would try to get the private key for the address(es) containing LTC.
Normally the same password is needed to unlock the wallet (to get Priv Key) as for transaction, but I don't know what's wrong there.
The people that use LTC (Core) wallet should be able to help with that.

Then import the private key(s) into electrum-ltc-portable and use that to send to your smartphone.
If that works and you still want to use Core, delete blockchain data, including the old Wallet.dat (obviously keep a backup for "you never know" cases) and transfer your money from Electrum to this fresh wallet.

I think I found out how to do it https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/20869/how-to-get-private-key-from-litecoin-qt-wallet
Is it important on which wallet version I should work on (the one that accepts the passphrase or the one with the coins)?
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April 27, 2017, 02:03:59 PM
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I think I found out how to do it https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/20869/how-to-get-private-key-from-litecoin-qt-wallet
Is it important on which wallet version I should work on (the one that accepts the passphrase or the one with the coins)?

Super!
If the one that accepts the passphrase contains that receive address, use that one.
If it doesn't you created a new receive address or requested payment and the new LTC came into that new address, then you'll need to try your luck with the latest..

However, it's simple. Try first with the wallet that accepts your password. If it will give error that the address you want to dump priv key for doesn't exist, then you have to try with newer wallet.dat
GOOD LUCK!

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April 27, 2017, 02:16:31 PM
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I think I found out how to do it https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/20869/how-to-get-private-key-from-litecoin-qt-wallet
Is it important on which wallet version I should work on (the one that accepts the passphrase or the one with the coins)?

Super!
If the one that accepts the passphrase contains that receive address, use that one.
If it doesn't you created a new receive address or requested payment and the new LTC came into that new address, then you'll need to try your luck with the latest..

However, it's simple. Try first with the wallet that accepts your password. If it will give error that the address you want to dump priv key for doesn't exist, then you have to try with newer wallet.dat
GOOD LUCK!

No luck...
It's practically the same problem.
With one version I get passed the passphrase - but trying dumpprivkey and the result is: private key for address xyz is not known (code -4)
With the other backup (the one with the coins) - the passphrase is incorrect (code -14)
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April 27, 2017, 02:22:00 PM
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With the other backup (the one with the coins) - the passphrase is incorrect (code -14)

Did you try dumpprivkey even without unlocking the wallet? Did you try with caps lock on? Did you try to change keyboard layout (DE/FR/EN) in case you use such layouts?
I'm out of ideas Sad ...

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April 27, 2017, 03:57:28 PM
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With the other backup (the one with the coins) - the passphrase is incorrect (code -14)

Did you try dumpprivkey even without unlocking the wallet? Did you try with caps lock on? Did you try to change keyboard layout (DE/FR/EN) in case you use such layouts?
I'm out of ideas Sad ...

I did, to no avail...
However, I just found in my backup folder a file named: litecoin-wallet-keys-2017-04-09-011837.dat
Any chance this could help?
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April 30, 2017, 10:17:44 PM
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Any update?
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April 30, 2017, 10:37:09 PM
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Any update?

I'm starting to accept that the coins are lost (even though I can see them).
I sent the 2 wallet backups to a friend who will try to do better than me, perhaps de-compile the wallets with the hope of picking up something.
But, as I now gather, to solve my problem (with the wallet) will practically require the same efforts as to crack an encrypted wallet - which should be impossible.

My friend recommended I make contact with someone from the LTC's dev team. Any chance one of them hanging around here?
Thanks
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Any update?

I'm starting to accept that the coins are lost (even though I can see them).
I sent the 2 wallet backups to a friend who will try to do better than me, perhaps de-compile the wallets with the hope of picking up something.
But, as I now gather, to solve my problem (with the wallet) will practically require the same efforts as to crack an encrypted wallet - which should be impossible.

My friend recommended I make contact with someone from the LTC's dev team. Any chance one of them hanging around here?
Thanks

Dude, that sucks. Sorry for your loss (that sounds like someone died, but you know what I mean). Can't help with more than empty expressions of condolence, I'm afraid.
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Any update?

I'm starting to accept that the coins are lost (even though I can see them).
I sent the 2 wallet backups to a friend who will try to do better than me, perhaps de-compile the wallets with the hope of picking up something.
But, as I now gather, to solve my problem (with the wallet) will practically require the same efforts as to crack an encrypted wallet - which should be impossible.

My friend recommended I make contact with someone from the LTC's dev team. Any chance one of them hanging around here?
Thanks

Sorry for your loss, is it a lot? If it is a lot, try it again in the future when you have good luck. Next time write down the password if you don't use the familiar one.
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Any update?

I'm starting to accept that the coins are lost (even though I can see them).
I sent the 2 wallet backups to a friend who will try to do better than me, perhaps de-compile the wallets with the hope of picking up something.
But, as I now gather, to solve my problem (with the wallet) will practically require the same efforts as to crack an encrypted wallet - which should be impossible.

My friend recommended I make contact with someone from the LTC's dev team. Any chance one of them hanging around here?
Thanks

Dude, that sucks. Sorry for your loss (that sounds like someone died, but you know what I mean). Can't help with more than empty expressions of condolence, I'm afraid.

Thanks. Appreciated.


Sorry for your loss, is it a lot? If it is a lot, try it again in the future when you have good luck. Next time write down the password if you don't use the familiar one.

Thanks. Luckily it's not a big amount, 50 LTCs, but it's still super-annoying (especially seeing it's value go up since i made the purchases). And I actually have the password written down, it's just that the wallet.dat got corrupted somehow.
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I experienced very similar.
In one instance, when I try to pull up the Litecoin file I have, it's a red Archive Manager looking deal that tells me it's the wrong file or corrupted. The Litecoin wallet (core) accepted my passphrase bulleted, accepted coin, but somehow got corrupted.
It seems I have or can replicate a white screen with a lot of what looks like encryption, and some bitcoin related numbers that are identifiable, but it never got me in.
I'd like to know if that white screen, with all that jargon is somehow useful as one day, many years from now I'd like access my Litecoin.
The other thing is the passphrase I have written down. I'd like to know if I can somehow use that passphrase with something other than Core one day to try to get through this corruption/ encryption deal, but it's not a matter of me losing the passphrase.

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