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May 28, 2013, 06:44:59 PM
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Here I have mentioned domestic transaction.

what difference it make, if it domestic or not, how can you prove with bitcoins that it was in fact domestic transaction. If Indian government still ignoring this biz, just because it has no any significant volume. if volume increase they will act 100%.

If bitcoin was mined in India and it can be proved, it means its domestic.

Even if govt. wants to act tough, after significant increase in volume,how will govt. dismantle sites and exchanges on tor and i2p like atlantis and silk road ?

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May 29, 2013, 02:08:16 AM
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Here I have mentioned domestic transaction.

what difference it make, if it domestic or not, how can you prove with bitcoins that it was in fact domestic transaction. If Indian government still ignoring this biz, just because it has no any significant volume. if volume increase they will act 100%.

If bitcoin was mined in India and it can be proved, it means its domestic.

Even if govt. wants to act tough, after significant increase in volume,how will govt. dismantle sites and exchanges on tor and i2p like atlantis and silk road ?

Ok let me clear this thing up. for  a Tax is to  be levied on any item, it  need to be  represented in the national currency of the country levying tax. On products,  tax  is  levied when  import or  export of  products  are done  through countries  or  states. VAT , Sales tax, excise duty. etc.

A tax cannot be  levied on a  currency of a different country, for example if you bring in USD into the country it is not  taxed but the minute the USD hits the RBI system as a conversion to INR the tax on it  is levied.  or the RBI converts it into INR for TAX purpose.

So tax is levied on the  conversion of the  currency. where currency is involved. if  bitcoins are  treated  as  currency then  on the  conversion of  bitcoins to INR the tax  will be  levied.

But if  bitcoin is treated as a commodity the tax can be  levied without  the  conversion of  bitcoins and the tax is placed on the  total  value of  bitcoins.
so as there is a  grey line  over  the definition  by the  government on bitcoins as to treat it as a commodity or a  currency.
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May 29, 2013, 11:59:19 AM
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@subvolatil What does cryptoanarchy aims to achieve with respect to centralized control of govt. ?

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May 29, 2013, 02:58:08 PM
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The  ideal  state  is no  control .
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May 30, 2013, 03:52:42 PM
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The  ideal  state  is no  control .

do we have a state? state is gone, remained only states

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May 31, 2013, 05:03:58 AM
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At the end, if a government regulated/ approved Bitcoin exchange comes into play, it may override all other Bitcoin exchanges and become a larger entry point.

Maybe that is where the government can also see its profits coming in while allowing a free market for Bitcoin. Through taxing/ earning a margin on trades.

Any thoughts on that?

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May 31, 2013, 07:24:52 AM
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At the end, if a government regulated/ approved Bitcoin exchange comes into play, it may override all other Bitcoin exchanges and become a larger entry point.

Maybe that is where the government can also see its profits coming in while allowing a free market for Bitcoin. Through taxing/ earning a margin on trades.

Any thoughts on that?

sounds too pink in clouds, back to the ground Mr Benson

Indian government always follow Western friends.

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May 31, 2013, 07:38:18 AM
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sounds too pink in clouds, back to the ground Mr Benson

I have this vague ability to state things that happen somewhere in the future. :p
Maybe coincidence... or is it?

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sounds too pink in clouds, back to the ground Mr Benson

I have this vague ability to state things that happen somewhere in the future. :p
Maybe coincidence... or is it?

people believe in all sort of things. As prediction tool our intuition combined with assumptions historically proved be a faulty. In our modern age there is much better methods for prediction, Mostly based on System Dynamics. that can be of great value to make financial model with use of programs like Stella and see how introduction of bitcoins will influence dynamics of world financial systems. If we have such model we can scientifically prove that prohibition of bitcoins is a bad thing . We can run that model and see how different political decisions related to bitcoins can influence the future, let say in 15 -20 years. In world terms it is not much time, even in country terms it is not much time.  

One thing is quite obvious bitcoins is powerful financial tool, which will first destroy present system and then used to rebuild and establish new financial system for the whole world. Once bitcoins become dominant everybody will rush to join. In bitcoins I do not means exactly "bitcoins". Some new and more advanced cryptos will be created in near future, little doubts about that.

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May 31, 2013, 02:16:06 PM
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One thing is quite obvious bitcoins is powerful financial tool, which will first destroy present system and then used to rebuild and establish new financial system for the whole world. Once bitcoins become dominant everybody will rush to join. In bitcoins I do not means exactly "bitcoins". Some new and more advanced cryptos will be created in near future, little doubts about that.
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At the end, if a government regulated/ approved Bitcoin exchange comes into play, it may override all other Bitcoin exchanges and become a larger entry point.

Maybe that is where the government can also see its profits coming in while allowing a free market for Bitcoin. Through taxing/ earning a margin on trades.

Any thoughts on that?

Yaa, people should form bitcoin party in the same way as the pirate party of Europe.Have some legislations in favour of bitcoin or even including bitcoin as an alternate national currency.

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June 07, 2013, 08:57:33 PM
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Yaa, people should form bitcoin party in the same way as the pirate party of Europe.Have some legislations in favour of bitcoin or even including bitcoin as an alternate national currency.

LOL you are expecting that from a country that has THIS : Huh


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