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Author Topic: WTF? People getting mortgage debt to buy btc in the UK.  (Read 642 times)
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September 20, 2017, 06:42:01 AM
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Its a wrong way to earn money.Its seems risky way to earn.What if Uk banned bitcoin same as china ?.They can lose a lot of money 
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September 20, 2017, 06:46:04 AM
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It has the opportunity to make some serious money, but it's a very, very risky strategy that personally I could not take on.
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September 20, 2017, 06:48:58 AM
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It's still their risk to mortgage. They looked at bitcoin in a positive way. Borrowing in banks will not be a problem if they can pay it from their monthly salaries because they have jobs.

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September 20, 2017, 06:50:57 AM
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That article cites the FT as a source without giving a link for reference, I'd like to see the original piece
The original article: Wealthy borrowers use home loans to bet on stock market:
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One broker said a mortgage-free homeowner with a house valued at £10m had taken out a fixed-rate loan of just under £2m to buy bitcoin
This doesn't sound like it's common practice, just an extreme example of what one person did. In the Netherlands, people have been using mortgages to invest in the stock market for decades. Bitcoin goes up faster than stock, so it's the next logical step. Given a large enough number of people, it becomes very likely that some of them do a certain thing.
This is just one of the risk of very cheap debt. How nice would it be to turn that £2m into another £10m? If you would have done this just a year ago, you'd be looking at even more than £10m now.
As long as it's the wealthy people who do this, and they can afford to lose their investment, I see no down side. It's good for Bitcoin's growth too.

The risk is indeed if people start investing money they can't afford to lose. I sometimes feel like: "I wish I would have invested anything I have in Bitcoin at some point in past", which is a very risky thought if you extrapolate past price increases into the future. I can't afford to lose my savings in a stock (or Bitcoin) crash, which is the reason I'm slowly losing it to inflation on a savings account.

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October 22, 2017, 08:35:26 PM
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the question is how someone who is doing such a thing is handling the risks and what are his/her plans for each scenario in case something went wrong. for example can they pay back the mortgage if they lose it all in trading? if yes, then i don't really see any issue with something like that if they can accept the risks.

Exactly the point. If they have a secure job and can comfortably make the repayments every month then there is very little risk at all. Why leave all that equity tied up in your house when you could potentially make a good return on it.
But if they are so solid financially why add this risk, sell the house and with the cash that you have invest it all in bitcoin and pay rent for a few years while that is a risky move you are not going to be in debt to any bank, even if the interest rates on mortgages are very low you are still paying interest rates and if something happens to the economy those interest rates could change, or you could lose your job.
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October 22, 2017, 09:28:16 PM
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Hmm. I guess people figure the money they make investing it in BTC they could use it to help pay off the house in whole so they don't mind taking a little monthly hit for now.

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October 22, 2017, 09:37:10 PM
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I don't know if this source is valid either, but none of this would surprise me.  People
do insane things like this when *bubbles* start forming.  There's no way anyone should
be buying as speculative an asset such as bitcoin with mortgage money.  This is worse
than the housing meltdown years ago.  But people are funny like that.
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