1 oz BTC silver bar and BTC gold "world" coin-makers known?

[ChiBitCTy]

Went through my collection and came across these two and was curious if anyone knows the maker of either?  thanks!

https://imgur.com/a/Dov49

[Mitchell]

The bar is made by defcon23 (not real silver and never publicly sold AFAIK) and the coin is a serpcoin DIY2 by Serp.

[FFrankie]

The bar is made by defcon23 (not real silver and never publicly sold AFAIK) and the coin is a serpcoin DIY2 by Serp.

So help me understand why its not real silver but still stamped in that way

[ChiBitCTy]

Thanks Mitchell!!

I was definitely aware that it was not real silver.  I forget how I knew that at time of purchase ( seller either listed that fact as well as if you see it in person and not in my god awful photos ..it's semi obvious).

I've seen so many damn coins that state they are .999 silver that are not. It's just to mimic a traditional, precious metal coin/bar.  Not sure I like that idea myself but that's normally why.  Or simply faked from China which happens a lot.

[Mitchell]

So help me understand why its not real silver but still stamped in that way

According to defcon23 the manufacturer fucked up and stamped it as real silver, even though it isn't, IIRC. For the full story you would have to contact defcon23.

[TheNewAnon135246]

So help me understand why its not real silver but still stamped in that way

According to defcon23 the manufacturer fucked up and stamped it as real silver, even though it isn't, IIRC. For the full story you would have to contact defcon23.

Which is complete bullsh*t. A mint would never produce coins/bars without confirming the final design. It was likely a scam attempt but he got called out on it and chose to not sell them.

[wheelz1200]

There are fakes all over the place.  That's why I would recommend never buying precious metal unless you know the seller and the circumstances or test the metal before final payment.

[ChiBitCTy]

There are fakes all over the place.  That's why I would recommend never buying precious metal unless you know the seller and the circumstances or test the metal before final payment.

Agreed..sticking to the big guys (Apmex, Provident metals, JM Bullion etc) are where you can safely buy. Many brick and mortar stores are a rip off and and I don’t craigslist for Bullion either lol.

[ChiBitCTy]

There are fakes all over the place.  That's why I would recommend never buying precious metal unless you know the seller and the circumstances or test the metal before final payment.

......psst... wanna buy an MS69 Sol Noctis....  it's real, I swear

And way cooler than 99% of coins out there today! If it’s real that is 

[Lesbian Cow]

There are fakes all over the place.  That's why I would recommend never buying precious metal unless you know the seller and the circumstances or test the metal before final payment.

Agreed..sticking to the big guys (Apmex, Provident metals, JM Bullion etc) are where you can safely buy. Many brick and mortar stores are a rip off and and I don’t craigslist for Bullion either lol.

or you can safely buy silver and gold bullion from me!

[digicoinuser]

Interesting as I've never seen that hologram you have on the back of the Serp coin.  Is that a single outlier or do you have other Serp coins with the same hologram?

[digicoinuser]

Interesting as I've never seen that hologram you have on the back of the Serp coin.  Is that a single outlier or do you have other Serp coins with the same hologram?

I think those were the DIY holograms that came with?

Not the ones I have for V2, the holograms I received with all my coins (around 20+) were this one:



The hologram for V2 took up the whole coins space on the back and wouldn't leave the large empty ring between the hologram and rim of the coin.  

The hologram that I'm seeing on the back of that coin looks like a Cryptolator Personal DIY hologram although I'm having problems finding an image of that one since it differs from the normal Cryptolator hologram.

[ChiBitCTy]

There are fakes all over the place.  That's why I would recommend never buying precious metal unless you know the seller and the circumstances or test the metal before final payment.

Agreed..sticking to the big guys (Apmex, Provident metals, JM Bullion etc) are where you can safely buy. Many brick and mortar stores are a rip off and and I don’t craigslist for Bullion either lol.

or you can safely buy silver and gold bullion from me!

OR....LesbianCow.  Legit .999 genuine silver that I can now vouch for.  User also promises to always be fully stocked with the US Mints ATB 5 oz silvers! 

[ChiBitCTy]

Interesting as I've never seen that hologram you have on the back of the Serp coin.  Is that a single outlier or do you have other Serp coins with the same hologram?

After Mitchell informed me of it's maker I started to look in to the coin a little and noticed the same thing.  I like my holo much less!

[digicoinuser]

Interesting as I've never seen that hologram you have on the back of the Serp coin.  Is that a single outlier or do you have other Serp coins with the same hologram?

After Mitchell informed me of it's maker I started to look in to the coin a little and noticed the same thing.  I like my holo much less!

Yes, there is something fishy going on there and if it was bought second hand I'd look into which hologram was placed on it and the rarity of that hologram if it's still intact. 

[Hox]

The hologram is from a DIY cryptolator.

[ChiBitCTy]

The hologram is from a DIY cryptolator.

Thanks!  Digicoin actually informed me of such just a bit ago.  I def prefer the orig holo, having the BTC on it.