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September 15, 2017, 04:43:20 PM Last edit: September 16, 2017, 12:12:10 PM by elpeter84 |
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Hi All! My name is Peter and I hope this forum post will help to get your opinions on the arbitrage service http://52.166.79.242 which allows to find the best deals across many exchanges and crypto/fiat currencies. The idea is that our algorithm helps to find best trade paths to maximize your profits. Together with my friend we developed this live algorithm for our own use, however, it came out really good so we decided to give it a try for a public use. Currently, it works with 16 different markets such as: Bitfinex, Kraken, Bittrex, HitBTC, Exmo, Poloniex, Liqui, GDAX, xBTCe, Binance, BitStamp, itBit, ANX, OKCoin, BTCC, BTC Indonesia. The algorithm analyzes the following currencies: USD EUR BTC BCH LTC ETH ETC XMR ZEC. Also, we have developed the option to be able to remove certain currencies from specific exchanges (currently removed from the public access) At this time, the algorithm can generate the best trade routes with up to 5 transactions in depth across all available markets (10 transactions limit will be added in the future). Also, any user is able to select the starting point - from which market/currency s/he would like to start trading, as well as be able to specify where to finish. On the left, users will also see the option to add specific trade routes to favorites (will appear in green). This way any user will be able to save and monitor live updates for each specified trade route. For all the other results - our service will update the page every 15-20 secs and display the newest 10 best results. We included the following commission/fees from each crypto exchange: network fees, withdrawal fees and trading fees (maker/taker) Please note that for now we’ve added the same 0,25% trade fee for all trades. This will put less pressure on our current server because the algorithm calculates the real-time data with over 1,5 trillion possible trades across all markets. The 0.25% fee is on the higher end, so when the actual fees for each exchange are added, you should see potentially higher returns. It will be awesome if you guys could provide your comments while answering the attached questionnaire. Many thanks!
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September 16, 2017, 11:00:03 AM |
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Just because it is called Arbitrage does not mean that you should call them arbitrary cross exchange services. There's a difference between the terms arbitrary and Arbitrage. Perhaps before you start some type of service you should get your economic terms in a line and your ducks in a row. Terms should be used with care as it does not fit here when it comes to bitcoin exchange services.
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September 16, 2017, 11:19:21 AM |
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Thanks for your suggestion! Yes, you are absolutely correct - sorry as we are located in Europe and so I have updated the topic and the description as suggested.
All of your opinions matter a lot and we are very thankful! Please review and let me know if you have any additional questions!
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September 16, 2017, 01:00:43 PM |
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For start the link that you provide is not loading at all. Secondly there is nothing to prove us that this algorithm/bot is working as you say. You are a noob here and trust me,we have seen a lot noobs promising services like yours. The bad thing is that they always fail. BTW you want 0.25% commission for eatch trade? How much it was before and why? I thought this one was your first attempt... ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) The 0.25% fee is on the higher end, so when the actual fees for each exchange are added, you should see potentially higher returns.
What relevance does any potential profit have,with any Trade fee? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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September 17, 2017, 11:50:41 AM Last edit: September 17, 2017, 12:11:41 PM by elpeter84 |
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For start the link that you provide is not loading at all. Secondly there is nothing to prove us that this algorithm/bot is working as you say. You are a noob here and trust me,we have seen a lot noobs promising services like yours. The bad thing is that they always fail. BTW you want 0.25% commission for eatch trade? How much it was before and why? I thought this one was your first attempt... ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) The 0.25% fee is on the higher end, so when the actual fees for each exchange are added, you should see potentially higher returns.
What relevance does any potential profit have,with any Trade fee? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Thanks for your comment! This is an early project for us so we put it in a free domain. One thing - some of your firewall or anti-virus programs might block it since it's not a standard letter-based domain. The 0,25% fee is referred to a commission fee (taker/maker) by exchanges. I think you should try to access the site so it will make more sense what we are talking about. It's a free of charge project for a moment so we don't charge anything. We simply want to get your opinions if this service will be of any value. This way we can decide whether or not to put more time and work into this. You are all welcome to share your thoughts after reviewing it. Many thanks!
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September 17, 2017, 12:16:47 PM |
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As I mentioned before, we are considering to turn it into a full-scale project but we first wanted to get your opinions and test results to see if you guys could profit from it. Please provide your comments and suggestions. We are really looking forward to get your feedback! Thank you!
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September 17, 2017, 09:34:34 PM |
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Earlier today we have added the live quotes for currencies feature which works across many crypto exchanges! Please visit our web site http://52.166.79.242 and click on 'Quotes' (new) link. Still trying to figure out on how to add screenshots to replies in here ?!
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September 18, 2017, 09:29:15 AM Last edit: September 18, 2017, 09:53:17 AM by elpeter84 |
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Good morning/day/evening/night to all!
Based on the positive feedback we got from different forums and with direct messages, we have decided to outline the dev roadmap for the next 2 weeks:
1. Add ‘my account’ feature - ability to sign up and login into your accounts.
2. Add ’notifications’ feature - ability to receive alerts based on selected parameters: exchanges, currencies, preferred min profit and arbitrage window width calculation. These notifications will be derived into the email (users with fake email accounts will not benefit from this feature); also alerts will be arriving through a Google Cloud message (Chrome notifications) and from the web site’s account interface.
3. Add ’arbitrage window width’ calculation. Currently works in beta, however, in order to improve prognosis it needs additional 2 months of statistics/data.
4. Order book data support.
5. Ability to setup a max profit amount on the arbitrage trade.
6. Moving to upgraded servers with the ping rate of 1 ms to exchanges
7. Moving to a normal (letter-based) domain with https protocol. We received some feedback that some users cannot open the current domain we have since it gets blocked by antivirus programs.
8. Add access to arbitrage data through rest-API.
9. Ability to receive quotes and order books via web-sockets (and possibly through tcp)
10. Add ‘technical analysis information’ feature. This feature will be useful for those who do long-term trading. We already have this mechanism ready, just don’t have enough time and people to integrate it into the web site interface
11. Add ‘historical charts’ - this feature will allow to pull charts based on best prices and specific exchanges. Also, users will be able to add and save technical indicators into the chart.
DONATIONS - guys we are working very hard to get this setup ASAP based on your wishes and feedback. The monthly charge for hosting, servers and maintenance will cost us about $500 / month. So we are really hoping that each of you who will be using our service will be able to donate at least a portion to help us. Any amount will be greatly appreciated! This will help us to finish the features roadmap on time and provide you with an awesome tool/service in 2 weeks. Later on today, we will be setting up a donation information section on our web site. For those who will be making donations, please send the donation receipts to us (we will also add contact info on the web site) and we will try to thank you with additional ‘early-stage’ benefits such as early access to beta-version, CPU and RAM support prioritization , etc.
Down the road, we plan on widening the development around the trading and investments such as: interface trading, order placements, balance reflection in charts and in interface. For these features we would need to setup a really high-end coding/encryption and protection. So these features will require more time to be completed.
Please provide your feedback/questions and I will be happy to answer them or where possible, prioritize requests ahead of time.
Best Regards, Peter
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September 19, 2017, 08:39:58 AM |
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Hi All, The release day is coming closer and we are finalizing ‘my account’ feature and registration feature for users with personal trade routes. We are building API for those who want to create (code) their own bots and use our arbitrage finder services and/or be able to consolidate order books and live quotes from all exchanges. Also, we are finalizing the mobile phone and email notification feature related to arbitrage suggestions. For all those who plan on using our arbitrage service - we recommend to start getting to know the list of crypto-exchanges and open accounts there. The verification process for exchange accounts (to be able to have the highest limits and trade with all currencies) take some time so it’s recommended to open them ahead of time. And for those who wish to have the service to monitor the live quotes, all it takes is an additional patience. I would like to remind once again that the we are facing the est. $500 monthly cost to maintain a new server infrastructure, and so we are asking to support us with this project so that we can develop and maintain it until further stages. We have added the ‘Support’ button on the top portion of our web site. The direct link is here: http://52.166.79.242/donateThe good news is that we have since past Saturday we have received 372 unique visitors so this is exciting news since we are working days and nights to make this project possible. Another important thing - please don’t forget to send us your donation payment receipts so that we can prioritize some new beta services for those who supported us (we will post more info about it later on) Once we move to new servers this Thursday or Friday, you should be able to monitor live maintenance updates by visiting this link: http://52.166.79.242/roadmapAnd most importantly, don’t forget that once we get the new domain name for our web site, we will setup an automatic redirect from the current to a new domain for the 1st week. Afterwards, we will disable the current domain (an old one) in order to provide more backend support for those who provided the initial donations. Remember that we will be adding the beta features for our sponsors first. Thank you all once again! Feel free to shoot me any questions! Best Regards, Peter
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September 19, 2017, 08:57:12 AM |
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It is going to be hard to get big profit from this.
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September 19, 2017, 09:09:40 AM Last edit: September 19, 2017, 09:59:22 AM by elpeter84 |
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It is going to be hard to get big profit from this.
Hi metalbean ! Thanks for your comment. The arbitrage is one of the most profitable ways to trade. Especially on the crypto markets since the spread between proces on different exchanges is quite significant. If you monitor our web site and search for live arbitrage trade path suggestions, you will find quite a few daily results with 1-2% profit margin suggestions. Please note that we've included the exchange fees into our calculations. Say you run them at least 10 times a day, these are the risk-free profit gains.
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Hi all! We kicked off the move and as promised I would like to share with you some “plyuh-shki” for those who supported the project:
1. The power reservation: since we have 2 servers that we support, we would then prioritize processes for those who initially supported us focusing on trade route calculations (it will not matter for the small number of users, however, a growing user quanitities will start feeling it)
2. There will be an option to display exceptionally ‘inter-exchange’ arbitrage deals (the trades within one exchange). FYI: for regular users only top 10 results will be displayed based on profitability in accordance with configured settings compliance.
3. The search of the most profitable deals will be set to be configured considering all the trade routes (standard users will have limits meaning that there will a concretization into the starting and end points or else a crypto-exchange and currencies)
4. A future option will be added to increase the depth of search with up to 10 arbitrage transactions.
5. The limit related to cycle deals will be disabled. This improvement will be a convenient option proceeded within the inter-exchange trade. As a result after 2-3 currency circles there will be an opportunity to rounds up several cycles in order to extract profit.
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September 21, 2017, 01:46:19 PM |
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You can earn from this I also find some exchange wallet sites in my country have different prices in terms of buy and sell I could do arbitrage in that although didn't do it not enough funds to do so, and fundamentally speaking it is hard to do.
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September 21, 2017, 01:57:49 PM |
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You can earn from this I also find some exchange wallet sites in my country have different prices in terms of buy and sell I could do arbitrage in that although didn't do it not enough funds to do so, and fundamentally speaking it is hard to do.
Thanks for your comment! If things were easy - everyone would do it and then there will be no arbitrage opportunities ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) if you visit our web site and check the development roadmap - you will see that we plan on adding the access to arbitrage data through rest-API. This will be useful for those who will create and connect their own bots into our arbitrage data in order to automate the trading processes.
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September 21, 2017, 09:42:55 PM |
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Hello to all! My name is Aleksei and my English not so good, as Peter's and I'm a developer of Arbitrage Council. I will write to this forum together with he and hope - this community will help this project to grow up to help miners and traders get more profit from cryptocurrencies. Today we released personal areas for users and now all registered users have their own settings to search arbitrage paths to overprofit. Tomorrow we plan to move to new servers, that will work faster and will give users almost realtime analysis.
Your donations was very helpful for us and we rent servers that we needed for project. I want to tell "Thank you" to each user, that trusted to us and maked donation.
All of users can use this app to search arbitrage or withdrawal paths to fiat currencies to gain better prices for exchange.
Please wrote to us your feedback and comments.
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September 22, 2017, 10:04:11 AM |
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Hello to all! There was a bug in personal area registration. Now all is ok, sorry for this issue. Feel free to use this app. Welcome! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Today we will move to new servers - and address of app will change, see this forum for updates and check url string in browser. Redirection from old servers to new server will work only till next weekend
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September 22, 2017, 09:51:16 PM |
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Today we completely moved to new servers with huge compute capability. New server address: http://185.158.154.140/ In a few days you can access this app by visit this URL : http://trd.ai (it already bought and waiting for dns registrations)
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Hello again! As I wrote before, the service is available on address: http://trd.ai it’s free and we glad to see new users and your feed back! Let’s make cryptotrading profitable together! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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September 27, 2017, 05:19:00 AM |
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Hello! Yesterday we released new feature! Now you can specify Exchanges on which you have accounts, currencies on each exchange that you want to trade and fees and commissions for each exchange/currency for trading and withdrawals. All this settings will be used when system makes search for profitable arbitrage deals.
You can register and use this app absolutely free!
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