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October 25, 2017, 11:40:09 PM
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In that case, it probably is not a virus.  It is probably malware.
Nowadays these are practically synonyms,

No, they aren't.

In that case, it probably is not a virus.  It is
and antiviruses detect both.

Anti-virus software may try to detect some malware, but it would be impossible for it to detect all malware.
This is why i dont really trust completely on anti-viruses which even if i do have AV i dont usually download random things online. Come to think off that they are just the online ones who do made viruses for the sake that they Anti-virus would sell off.(Just my own view). Regarding on op,that was a big loss 0.6 btc is already a big amount if you do see on current price of bitcoin and reversing the transaction isnt possible.Forget those coins and move on.

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October 26, 2017, 01:05:45 AM
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In that case, it probably is not a virus.  It is probably malware.
Nowadays these are practically synonyms,

No, they aren't.
To add to this, a virus is a piece of malware but a piece of malware may not always be a virus. There are other categories such as trojans that cause issues with computers and enter them the same way viruses do.

that case, it probably is not a virus.  It is
and antiviruses detect both.

Anti-virus software may try to detect some malware, but it would be impossible for it to detect all malware.
Most wide-spread malware is protected by antivirus software. There are software that antivirus doesn't trust like some antiviruses don't trust the Bitcoin Core wallet for example.
Antiviruses measure familiarity with code and how widespread it is to determine its safety (signatures used to generate the code are also checked). Higher level languages are not checked as easily by AV software as lower level/intermediate languages are and therefore, getting a piece of software that is cleared by AV to run another piece of software/code that isn't can be a main producer of issues.

It is tough to know if your new wallet is compromised or not... you should completely refresh the entire system or reinstallation process.



That's a good suggestion, the disk needs the operating system completely uninstalling and anything else on the disk completely removed. Then the operating system can be reinstalled and tested with smaller amounts.


I would say @OP as this issue has happened to you once, if you stick with Bitcoin, try and change the way you surf the web or change how you store you coins.

The coins seem to have finished up in this address: 1Kefz6BcNjK6MhTrLnr2KAQq8KyPNCeMSS
Keep track of that OP and see if the coins move anywhere else after that (though that might take a while).
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October 27, 2017, 01:24:04 AM
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Hi sir,

To avoid this type of thing from occurring, you can purchase a hardware wallet. If offers much much greater protection than the method you are using, regardless if your computer is compromised or not. With a legitimate hardware wallet, you are very likely to put the breaks on hackers.

Bitcoin Cash (BCASH) is NOT the real Bitcoin
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October 27, 2017, 04:09:10 AM
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if you didn't accidentally send on that address maybe have someone know your private key or maybe you login in net cafe that have a keyloggers...reminders to all netcafe user dont forget to clear your history and cache before leaving because some net cafe they install keylogger to copy your password...

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October 27, 2017, 04:58:49 AM
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Scary stuff, I also vote for hardware wallets as the most secure.

How about a dedicated computer just for holding wallets? we are always upgrading parts, I can probably make a no-frills offline machine just to hold my wallets, and connect to the internet only to send and receive coins.


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October 27, 2017, 10:54:37 PM
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How about a dedicated computer just for holding wallets? we are always upgrading parts, I can probably make a no-frills offline machine just to hold my wallets, and connect to the internet only to send and receive coins.
NO! This is not how to use a "two computer" setup... As soon as you connect that 2nd PC to a network you are potentially exposing it... You want to use the 2nd one completely offline and keep it "air gapped"... No Ethernet, no WiFi, no Bluetooth... Basically no networking functionality (after the OS has been installed).

This wiki entry is probably a little outdated, but explains the concept: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_secure_offline_savings_wallet

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October 27, 2017, 10:58:27 PM
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Also try a wallet with 2-factor authentication for added security. Use a dedicated cheap clean cellphone that's sole purpose is to generate the codes if you must. Don't let it connect to the internet often aside from syncing. It's not 100% secure as stated here https://sites.cns.utexas.edu/oit-blog/blog/can-two-factor-authentication-be-hacked , but it gives more protection for your wallet. If you don't plan on sending out bitcoins often then use a cold storage wallet.

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October 28, 2017, 03:11:53 AM
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I might say that someone got an access with your device and got your private keys. I am always writing my private keys on a paper for security or transferring those sensitive information in USB. I might say that there is a low chance retrieving those coins. I would suggest watching videos at youtube for further information or contacting customer service assistance.

"contacting customer service assistance" ?
Smile !!

They cant be of help,not them and not anyone because bitcoin transaction is not reversible. The stolen bitcoin is as good as gone !
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October 28, 2017, 08:30:38 AM
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Try to re-format your PC but turn off your internet connection before you installed and try to disable your LAN connection then proceed,it might someone is trying to hacked your entire system..
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October 28, 2017, 08:55:08 AM
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So somehow I fucked up and all my coins were send to this address
1ARHwvB4nKVPhRRgvdJCctxXwogi1ePbu2

Any way to track or reverse it?

https://blockchain.info/address/1ARHwvB4nKVPhRRgvdJCctxXwogi1ePbu2

Very sorry for your loss this exact same incident happend to me last moth in my poloniex account.
there are 2-3 possibility.
1.There are key loggers in your mc.
2.Some hacker have a remote session going on your computer.

In both of the case you need to reformat your computer as sooon as possible.
Blockchain transactions cannot be reversed.Hence i am afraind you have digest this loss.
Stay safe for future.
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