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June 11, 2013, 05:34:50 AM
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I was wondering what Linux users do for security? Have you used AppArmor? Is a good root password enough?

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June 11, 2013, 05:54:49 AM
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I'm using Mint. Any security tips (firewall, apparmor, etc)?

PS to trolls: please avoid stupid answers like "dont use linux, etc".

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June 11, 2013, 07:18:51 AM
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PS to trolls: please avoid stupid answers like "dont use linux, etc".
 I never use etc  Cheesy
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June 11, 2013, 07:47:12 AM
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If your using an app to secure Linux you probably shouldn't be using Linux. You should and be able to secure Linux with nothing but the terminal and commands.
So people who dont know how to use these commands (99.999% of the earth population) should not use Linux?
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June 11, 2013, 07:55:46 AM
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If your using an app to secure Linux you probably shouldn't be using Linux. You should and be able to secure Linux with nothing but the terminal and commands. But thanks for asking cause now I know two sites I will not be using.

Please explain what sites your talking about?

When you type something in to the command line what do you think your doing??? Your using a program from the command line!

AppArmor from what I can see works like a firewall (In a way) and might be very useful.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppArmor

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June 11, 2013, 08:57:32 AM
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Gweedo lives in a world of bits, codes & commands, but most of the "ordinary" people live in a world of streets, dogs, trees, beer, sex and tv. Nerds tend to forget about the "offline" world
I tend to forget too.

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June 11, 2013, 09:03:29 AM
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I tend to forget too.
Tell us more ..
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June 11, 2013, 09:09:02 AM
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I tend to forget too.
Tell us more ..
I'm a tech kind-of guy. I don't tend to get out much and usually spend most of my day with my computer or phone, planning and laying out various possible bitcoin business related to the internet and then cracking them down of their flaws and forgetting them forever.

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June 11, 2013, 09:17:11 AM
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I should have mentioned the subtle irony ..
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June 11, 2013, 09:21:23 AM
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Sorry, I don't really 'get' anything that's mild or subtle I guess.

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June 11, 2013, 09:38:53 AM
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Sorry, I don't really 'get' anything that's mild or subtle I guess.
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June 11, 2013, 09:56:09 AM
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I was wondering what Linux users do for security?
Among other things, virtualization.

Every network-facing service is isolated to its own qemu-kvm instance to reduce the possibility that a compromised daemon will affect the rest of the system. Also multiple different VMs for web browsing to isolate high risk browsing from general browsing. No high risk activities allowed in the host OS.

Virtualization alone won't stop an intelligent and dedicated attacker who is specifically targeting your system, but it helps limit the damage automated attacks against a vulnerable service can cause.
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June 11, 2013, 11:33:08 AM
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I'm certainly no pro, but in reference to the OP, I'm pretty sure you shouldn't be running as root, as this allows you the opportunity to ruin your installation accidentally. Rather, run as a less privileged user.

Also, make sure you only have the necessary ports/services running otherwise you're increasing your attack surface.

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June 11, 2013, 02:01:04 PM
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I'm certainly no pro, but in reference to the OP, I'm pretty sure you shouldn't be running as root, as this allows you the opportunity to ruin your installation accidentally. Rather, run as a less privileged user.

Also, make sure you only have the necessary ports/services running otherwise you're increasing your attack surface.

No I do not run as root, (accept for puppy). I have been using Linux for 4 years now, so I know my way around, I just thought there might be some extra security you guys might do.

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June 11, 2013, 03:47:11 PM
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If your using an app to secure Linux you probably shouldn't be using Linux. You should and be able to secure Linux with nothing but the terminal and commands.
So people who dont know how to use these commands (99.999% of the earth population) should not use Linux?

Exactly that is why their are linux security people, that just deal with this type of thing. Otherwise their be no need for them. It is also great thing to learn. You think 99.9999% of the earth population knows how to secure windows, no.


If your using an app to secure Linux you probably shouldn't be using Linux. You should and be able to secure Linux with nothing but the terminal and commands. But thanks for asking cause now I know two sites I will not be using.

Please explain what sites your talking about?

When you type something in to the command line what do you think your doing??? Your using a program from the command line!

AppArmor from what I can see works like a firewall (In a way) and might be very useful.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppArmor

Your sites. If your using linux as a server.

Programing from the command line is kinda of a stretch. I am not going to explain cause you really should know what the command line does. Also you already have a firewall, the only think that you should add is probably an application that monitor's if a file gets changed, and IDS (Intrusion detection system) only things you should add. You already have a good firewall on linux if you know how to configure it why use a 3rd party one.

Gweedo lives in a world of bits, codes & commands, but most of the "ordinary" people live in a world of streets, dogs, trees, beer, sex and tv. Nerds tend to forget about the "offline" world

LMAO thanks for the insult, but if you actually saw me, you have no idea I knew anything about linux or bitcoins. Actually when I start talking to other computer people, they are really surprised of how much I know from my looks. I enjoy sex, tv and beer.

What makes you assume since I run Linux on my PC I am running servers too, and what make you think I am wanting to program from the command line.

From your posts I would not take any advice from you, your just a troll wanting to spout off your programming knowledge if you have any, I don't give a crap, go tell some one who cares!!!! 

If you have the time, read about AppArmor, it is in Ubuntu by default. But you won't.

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June 11, 2013, 04:12:30 PM
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If your using an app to secure Linux you probably shouldn't be using Linux. You should and be able to secure Linux with nothing but the terminal and commands.
So people who dont know how to use these commands (99.999% of the earth population) should not use Linux?

Exactly that is why their are linux security people, that just deal with this type of thing. Otherwise their be no need for them. It is also great thing to learn. You think 99.9999% of the earth population knows how to secure windows, no.


If your using an app to secure Linux you probably shouldn't be using Linux. You should and be able to secure Linux with nothing but the terminal and commands. But thanks for asking cause now I know two sites I will not be using.

Please explain what sites your talking about?

When you type something in to the command line what do you think your doing??? Your using a program from the command line!

AppArmor from what I can see works like a firewall (In a way) and might be very useful.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppArmor

Your sites. If your using linux as a server.

Programing from the command line is kinda of a stretch. I am not going to explain cause you really should know what the command line does. Also you already have a firewall, the only think that you should add is probably an application that monitor's if a file gets changed, and IDS (Intrusion detection system) only things you should add. You already have a good firewall on linux if you know how to configure it why use a 3rd party one.

Gweedo lives in a world of bits, codes & commands, but most of the "ordinary" people live in a world of streets, dogs, trees, beer, sex and tv. Nerds tend to forget about the "offline" world

LMAO thanks for the insult, but if you actually saw me, you have no idea I knew anything about linux or bitcoins. Actually when I start talking to other computer people, they are really surprised of how much I know from my looks. I enjoy sex, tv and beer.

What makes you assume since I run Linux on my PC I am running servers too, and what make you think I am wanting to program from the command line.

From your posts I would not take any advice from you, your just a troll wanting to spout off your programming knowledge if you have any, I don't give a crap, go tell some one who cares!!!! 

If you have the time, read about AppArmor, it is in Ubuntu by default. But you won't.

Actually I was assuming you were running it on servers, but I guess you can't read. LMAO you don't even program from the command line, you run "COMMANDS" in the command line that the computer does. It is pretty much just like using windows explorer but you don't know that.

You can call me what you want LOL the fact of the matter is that I have about 4 VPS and they have never been hacked.

So I guess in the long run you weren't going to listen to anyone, you want to use apparmor, so why did you even ask the question?

You did not even read my OP, I was asking about securing my wallet, but you started spewing off some crap saying only GODS like you who know how to program should be using Linux. Linux is not a Programmers operating system. Stop spewing off your crap.

You haven't shown me any creditability, and in your profile your asking for work? No I don't want your advice, you don't read or think. 

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June 11, 2013, 04:24:24 PM
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You did not even read my OP, I was asking about securing my wallet, but you started spewing off some crap saying only GODS like you who know how to program should be using Linux. Linux is not a Programmers operating system. Stop spewing off your crap.

You haven't shown me any creditability, and in your profile your asking for work? No I don't want your advice, you don't read or think.  

I was wondering what Linux users do for security? Have you used AppArmor? Is a good root password enough?

WOW I don't know what your on but pretty sure I answered what your asking. LMAO I never talked about Gods, and programming at all, but linux is harder than windows or mac OSX those would suit you better.

Those would suit me better?? What???
Again what are you taking about Linux is not harder then Windows, and I don't know or even care about OSX.

What is your problem?

So your answer to my question "If your using an app to secure Linux you probably shouldn't be using Linux." Really? Try posting that on any Linux from.

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June 11, 2013, 04:36:01 PM
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You did not even read my OP, I was asking about securing my wallet, but you started spewing off some crap saying only GODS like you who know how to program should be using Linux. Linux is not a Programmers operating system. Stop spewing off your crap.

You haven't shown me any creditability, and in your profile your asking for work? No I don't want your advice, you don't read or think.  

I was wondering what Linux users do for security? Have you used AppArmor? Is a good root password enough?

WOW I don't know what your on but pretty sure I answered what your asking. LMAO I never talked about Gods, and programming at all, but linux is harder than windows or mac OSX those would suit you better.

Those would suit me better?? What???
Again what are you taking about Linux is not harder then Windows, and I don't know or even care about OSX.

What is your problem?

So your answer to my question "If your using an app to secure Linux you probably shouldn't be using Linux." Really? Try posting that on any Linux from.

I have before LMAO and people agree. Dude your so dumb and it is so funny, if you know everything about linux then why did you post a question? Answer me that, stupid.

lol if I thought I knew everything about Linux would I be posting a question, I asked about how to, I was not asking "Should I use Linux" if you ask me no one should use Windows, any grandmother can use a Linux computer. Linux is not ran from the command line.

I use the terminal a lot, I don't need to use it for everything I do, and I don't need to write my own programs.

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June 11, 2013, 04:47:15 PM
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Check this out...

AppArmor Ubuntu Server Guide
https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/serverguide/apparmor.html

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