Israel

[tiros]

lol @ being in an argument with a muslin

all i need are one story government buildings and ill be ok

lol, looks like you are OK right now if we are not counting in bad judgment and lack of comprehension skills.
Carry on son.

[erikspoon]

i won't answer to each resolution in turn it would take to much time
i will however undermine the UN itself
The UN has had many decisions regarding Israel however on a more urgent issue like for the way Iran is treating its citizens(gays\women\non Muslims) or the way Saudi Arabia(gays\women\non Muslims) is treating its citizens or the way  Palestinian authority(gays\women\non Muslims) is treating its citizens and i can continue however if you are a real thinker you would detect a pattern here.
from 2003 there was rocket launching from Gaza to the southern part of Israel (only towards civilian targets) the UN wasn't very interested he had at most one resolution made however it had a resolution against Israel the moment launched an army campaign to stop the launches - this is the UN the UN resolution are automatic without any relations to the real situations - they are a result of political power and not of the actual things that happen on the land itself.
So i don't give much weight to the UN resolution (from a moral stand point ).

as for my question - its a simple one can be phrased easily the so called Palestinians claim that they have ownership of the land because it's there land
so tell when in the history (you can go back as far as you want) there was a Palestinian ruling of this specific piece of land?  

[flavius]

lol @ being in an argument with a muslin

all i need are one story government buildings and ill be ok

lol, looks like you are OK right now if we are not counting in bad judgment and lack of comprehension skills.
Carry on son.

how are you even on a computer? dont you spend the majority of the day hiding from bullets in holes in the ground?

[tiros]

This is not thread about Iran.
To undermine UN from Israel point of view was expected but I tend not to agree with you, in fact me and most of the 193 UN member states.

As for you question, I will show you the map of Palestine / Israel from some years ago.
You don't have to be rocket scientist to see what happened.

[erikspoon]

The thread is not about Iran but Iran gives a good example of how the UN works - as for the maps you attached let us see what happens history wise
first of all there is no such thing a Palestinian Land the land was never controlled by Palestinians.
1946 - this is a false maps it assumes automatically that any land where Jewish population wasn't present (even if no Palestinian population was present) is a Palestinian land
which is of course unacceptable.
1947 - UN partition plan - Jewish community agreed Palestinian Population declined(UN resolution 181) - after Israel was announced Israel was attacked by armies of Egypt,Jordan,Syria,Iraqת,Lebanon,Saudi Arabia(within the Egyptian Army) ,and Local Arab forces they however managed to lose and thus you get the 1949 seize fire line.
1967 - 6 days war started with an Israeli preemptive strike again Syria and Egypt but the important part is that there wasn't a strike against Jordan Israel sent a diplomatic message to stay out of it - however Jordan attacked Israel - and lost the territories that from some reason are marked as Palestinian land and not as a Jordan Land.
all the lose of land as it is called is a result of refusing to negotiate and trying to get things by force and failing.

p.s.
The Innocents Abroad, or The New Pilgrims' Progress  is a travel book written by mark twain in his Journey to Israel - he describes Israel as an Empty desert and nothing else - the important phrase is Empty - not settled by Palestinians as the map suggests.

now as agreed my question :
The so called Palestinians claim that they have ownership of the land because it's their land so tell when in the history (you can go back as far as you want) there was a Palestinian ruling of this specific piece of land?

[tiros]

This was like you saying that Canadian territory don't belong to Canada because those territories were not populated by Canadians. That is funny.
So we should go maybe to Canada, Russia or African unpopulated deserts and pin our flag into land and declare it as a country?

Having control over land and being occupied are two things my friend. All world apart from few countries will say that Palestinians live under siege and occupation.

[flavius]

what is even being debated here rofl

[erikspoon]

up until a few hundred years the whole world insisted the earth revolves around the sun
please answer the question

p.s.
flavius - funny guy

[flavius]

its like you made a thread for the sake of arguing and nothing else. you are arguing about an irrelevant third world country where nothing of significance happens and your opinion on the matter is irrelevant but you want to feel important so you go on the internet and argue with people in the same possible about matters that you really have no idea of let alone influence or say over

the thread might as well be discussing if barack obama is actually a nigger or not

[erikspoon]

it might also be about Obama but its not
About the significance of what happens in Israel i guess there are quite allot of people who wouldn't agree with you
but thank you for your dime - and of course you don't have to read if you are not interested
best of luck to you

[flavius]

only dumb people let dumb things happen without interference

[tiros]

up until a few hundred years the whole world insisted the earth revolves around the sun
please answer the question

p.s.
flavius - funny guy

I offered answer which I can give my friend.
Yes he is funny and probably bored

[erikspoon]

fair enough - but i think we reached a point we can go no further
so i guess we would have to agree to disagree
that being said i can say that personally i do hope to have both parties (and it does need both parties) to get to some kind of understanding
and finish this thing up (especially since i heard there is great humus in Nablus and i do want to check it out )

[tiros]

fair enough - but i think we reached a point we can go no further
so i guess we would have to agree to disagree
that being said i can say that personally i do hope to have both parties (and it does need both parties) to get to some kind of understanding
and finish this thing up (especially since i heard there is great humus in Nablus and i do want to check it out )

That is fine by me.
I personally try to see people equal no matter from where they come or what kind of background they carry.
For Israelis and Palestinians probably two state solution is only possible since there is too much blood spilled to forgive or forget.
Have a nice day my Israeli bitcoin loving friend.
Bye.