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June 17, 2013, 10:39:30 PM
Last edit: June 18, 2013, 07:15:06 AM by vandinn
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I preordered Bitfury's Asics thinking I can sell shares of my mining operation in my homecountry, but I was only able to sell some as I was new to the forum (same on this forum). I don't wanna bet on the difficulty rise and therefore I decided to offer to sell one unit here. The chips for this Asic are being tested right now, but everything seems to be fine. The project has about 14 days delay and there are updates on it almost every day. You can search for Bitfury on this forum and you will find many posts both in English and Russian, mostly optimistic.
My preorder is from June 9th. There had been about 250 units ordered before me, but it is still the first batch (of 366, I believe). It is supposed to ship August-October and based on the current data (working sample chips, developer's activity), it is reasonable to think mid-September will be the lead time.
The Asic has 120GH/s hashing power and estimated 84- watt power usage. The already working chips's power usage is about 0.3-0.4/(GHash/s) watts.

The proof (somewhat) that I have indeed preordered the Asic and paid for it: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/832/h5xq.png/

I offer the following terms:
You escrow BTC to an honourable community member (I suggest The Koolio). I deliver the Asic to your European address (preferably near Czech Republic) as soon as I get it. We test it and if it works, the BTC will be transfered to me. The money will be returned to you if I fail to deliver a working Asic to your address within 21 days of its first available pick-up time in Moscow or before November 21st. (I will try to do this asap though and expect the delivery no later than by the end of September.)

I am bearing most of the risks for you and I expect a margin for it. You will only pay if you get a working Asic to your hand, in time. That is, on this forum, an offer unheard of.

The auction will end by the end of Friday, 21st of June. If I get an exceptional offer or I see no rises on the price, I may decide to end this auction earlier.

Starting price: 30 BTC.
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June 17, 2013, 10:42:17 PM
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Please consider shipping to the USA, I will cover all shipping costs.  Wink
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June 17, 2013, 11:26:17 PM
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I appreciate your offer, but...
The costs are crazy, I have checked. Additionally, in such a case I could only guarantee the working product before it is shipped.
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June 17, 2013, 11:39:47 PM
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The costs are crazy, I have checked. Additionally, in such a case I could only guarantee the working product before it is shipped.

The "crazy" shipping costs would surely fit inside the massive profit margin you have selling a miner you purchased for 18 BTc for 30 BTC no?
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June 18, 2013, 12:10:51 AM
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The costs are crazy, I have checked. Additionally, in such a case I could only guarantee the working product before it is shipped.

The "crazy" shipping costs would surely fit inside the massive profit margin you have selling a miner you purchased for 18 BTc for 30 BTC no?

I kindly ask you not to comment in this topic unless you have an offer or unless you are genuinely interested. I understand you are in the race for a high post count, but, please, be nice enough to me give me a chance to sell something I don't want to have. And no, the shipping costs to the US might not even be covered by this. PM me if you wish to argue about it.
Even if business is not the field of your interest (or knowledge), I believe you are smart enough to understand why the price of a non-existing device somewhere in Russia at an unspecified time is different from a future contract where you pay only for a complete working device delivered to your home by certain deadline.


So far, I have no offers. The starting price of 30 BTC still counts.
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June 18, 2013, 02:23:25 AM
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Even if business is not the field of your interest (or knowledge), ...
With all due respect, you had someone willing to pay, themselves, the expense of shipping to USA, and, presumably, trust that the machine was in working order. 

Whether that would have been wise for the potential buyer or not, you nixed it out of hand, which seems to cast some question on your business acumen as well.
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June 18, 2013, 02:32:02 AM
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PUT IT IN THE RIGHT FORUMS. You might be Russian, but it doesn't give you an excuse to be an ass.

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June 18, 2013, 02:45:17 AM
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The costs are crazy, I have checked. Additionally, in such a case I could only guarantee the working product before it is shipped.

The "crazy" shipping costs would surely fit inside the massive profit margin you have selling a miner you purchased for 18 BTc for 30 BTC no?

I kindly ask you not to comment in this topic unless you have an offer or unless you are genuinely interested. I understand you are in the race for a high post count, but, please, be nice enough to me give me a chance to sell something I don't want to have. And no, the shipping costs to the US might not even be covered by this. PM me if you wish to argue about it.
Even if business is not the field of your interest (or knowledge), I believe you are smart enough to understand why the price of a non-existing device somewhere in Russia at an unspecified time is different from a future contract where you pay only for a complete working device delivered to your home by certain deadline.


So far, I have no offers. The starting price of 30 BTC still counts.

Nothing you posted makes any sense, but good luck on the sale. I think you would have a far greater chance of selling it if you offer shipping included, even at a higher price to the US.
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June 18, 2013, 07:04:20 AM
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I do not know why people starting using the internet to argue instead of to do business, but in this instance it causes me many troubles. Please stop. In this thread, I am trying to sell. Why does everyone want to prevent me from doing this... Offer bids if you are interested, not flame.

Even if business is not the field of your interest (or knowledge), ...
With all due respect, you had someone willing to pay, themselves, the expense of shipping to USA, and, presumably, trust that the machine was in working order.  

Whether that would have been wise for the potential buyer or not, you nixed it out of hand, which seems to cast some question on your business acumen as well.

How did I nix it out of hand? Did I say no? I just said it would be expensive and it would. I believe my business acumen is 100% fool-proof and you are hurting my cause for no reason. I just do not wish to lower my margin to ship outside Europe. (I hope you observed those were purely rhetorical questions.) Also, you clearly misinterpreted who this post was answering to.
PUT IT IN THE RIGHT FORUMS. You might be Russian, but it doesn't give you an excuse to be an ass.
1) I am not Russian, I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. 2) That was totally uncalled for. 3) If it belongs elsewhere, be so kind to PM me about it and don't be rude. 4) I ask you again to do business here and not flame or rush for post counts.
The costs are crazy, I have checked. Additionally, in such a case I could only guarantee the working product before it is shipped.

The "crazy" shipping costs would surely fit inside the massive profit margin you have selling a miner you purchased for 18 BTc for 30 BTC no?

I kindly ask you not to comment in this topic unless you have an offer or unless you are genuinely interested. I understand you are in the race for a high post count, but, please, be nice enough to me give me a chance to sell something I don't want to have. And no, the shipping costs to the US might not even be covered by this. PM me if you wish to argue about it.
Even if business is not the field of your interest (or knowledge), I believe you are smart enough to understand why the price of a non-existing device somewhere in Russia at an unspecified time is different from a future contract where you pay only for a complete working device delivered to your home by certain deadline.


So far, I have no offers. The starting price of 30 BTC still counts.

Nothing you posted makes any sense, but good luck on the sale. I think you would have a far greater chance of selling it if you offer shipping included, even at a higher price to the US.

Thank you for wishing me luck. I really do not understand why, even after I politely asked you not to, you still have a desire to post off-topic in my thread. Such opinions may be addressed via PM. (I know you will never do that as your post count would not be affected.) To answer (again): yes, I would have a greater chance of selling. I would also have a lower margin and I could only guarantee a working product before it is sent.


I still got no offer even for the starting 30 BTC. Please, for the love of god, continue posting only topic related material. Ideally just price. If you wish to argue more, please do so via PM.
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June 18, 2013, 07:17:37 AM
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I still got no offer even for the starting 30 BTC. Please, for the love of god, continue posting only topic related material. Ideally just price. If you wish to argue more, please do so via PM.

why you have your threat in Custome HW section, if it is an auction? please ask moderator to move it to marketplace - auction section and stop bother us with it here.

thank you.
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June 18, 2013, 07:30:15 AM
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thanks for the PM
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