MasterCard & Visa Start Banning VPN Providers

[mateo]

The same they banned Wikileaks.
Strangely, Visa and Mastercard doesn't like anything US government doesn't like.

[jnagyjr]

SocialismCapitalism and all it's little sects, has had powerful adherents throughout history. Even though it keeps on failing, each successive generation keeps on pushing for it because they think they can do it better, and then they fail and start lashing out at all those they think kept them from succeeding even though it was their own flawed philosophy that failed.

Fixed.

Unless you are trying to claim credit card processors are socialist.

No, not the processors, but the people behind them ARE very left-leaning and tend toward socialism even though their own fortunes were made outside of a socialist system. "Fix" reverted.

Pfff, when will joe sixpack wake up and discover this right/left bullshit is just a way to keep people away from the real source of issues.

You mean like the Council on Foreign Relations?

[zedicus]

The same they banned Wikileaks.
Strangely, Visa and Mastercard doesn't like anything US government doesn't like.

Strangely enough they just unbanned wikileaks but i think they just want to track donation made to them ...



But yeah, the source of their stance is not internal! Its seems they are working outside of the whole judge, jury, and court of law thing and they are circumventing it all together !


With wikileaks i think it was Joe Lieberman who without a court order or without any proof of a law being broken ... Just basically called up visa and mastercard and "told" them to stop taking donation via Credit cards on the site.


Initially i think it was paypal who Joe Lieberman called and had paypal ban wikileaks from using the service!

Then paypal obliged without a court order or anything! (Just a mere phone call from Joe Lieberman)


Then wikileaks said well screw payal we will just use visa and mastercard!  Well it wasnt too long after giving paypal the middle finger that visa and mastercard got the call!!

& then of course visa and mastercard stopped taking donations for wikileaks!





After that happened ... the hackers came out of the woodworks and started targeting paypal , visa, mastercard!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8188797/WikiLeaks-supporters-hack-Mastercard.com.html




Then Joe and his gang started targeting the web host of wikileaks ... (AMAZON CLOUD SERVICES)


after a call from joe and his gang, amazon caved in and shutdown wikileaks.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/01/wikileaks-website-cables-servers-amazon



Then the mirrors happened after that !! A boat load of wikileaks clones showed up! Meaning .. Wikileaks was being mirrored by thousands of supporters who witnessed paypal, visa, mastercard, amazon and others who without court orders or anything "official" and documented were discriminating against the whistle blowing giant.


At the time i imagine satoshi coding with a grin as he watched what seemed to be a script out of the movies!




Fast forward a few years and here we are ... right smack in the middle of another whistle blowing scandal !!!  One that may change the face of communications as we know it!


 





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[jnagyjr]

The CFR and Trilateral Commission are the real source, the puppiticians in government are just their marionettes. The left/right thing isn't just smoke and mirrors, though.

[mateo]

The same they banned Wikileaks.
Strangely, Visa and Mastercard doesn't like anything US government doesn't like.

After that happened ... the hackers came out of the woodworks and started targeting paypal , visa, mastercard!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8188797/WikiLeaks-supporters-hack-Mastercard.com.html

I think hackers can do more harm than good, by plain revenge hackings, as it will look to the public as simply the criminals getting back at credit card companies. Unless they uncover and publish unlawful behavior.

http://falkvinge.net/2012/11/20/europarliament-scolds-visa-mastercard-paypal-for-killing-wikileaks-donations-initiates-regulation/
That's another result of that financial blockade. I'm not a fan of a centralized government solving problems that arise because of centralization in the financial world, but would sure love to see PayPal losing a couple of expensive lawsuits due to their behavior.

[Spendulus]

Get behind tor and then ---->   pay with bitcoin!

Or, less to my preference but available, pay for VPN with paypal...

[zedicus]

The same they banned Wikileaks.
Strangely, Visa and Mastercard doesn't like anything US government doesn't like.

After that happened ... the hackers came out of the woodworks and started targeting paypal , visa, mastercard!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8188797/WikiLeaks-supporters-hack-Mastercard.com.html

I think hackers can do more harm than good, by plain revenge hackings, as it will look to the public as simply the criminals getting back at credit card companies. Unless they uncover and publish unlawful behavior.

http://falkvinge.net/2012/11/20/europarliament-scolds-visa-mastercard-paypal-for-killing-wikileaks-donations-initiates-regulation/
That's another result of that financial blockade. I'm not a fan of a centralized government solving problems that arise because of centralization in the financial world, but would sure love to see PayPal losing a couple of expensive lawsuits due to their behavior.

I think youre right about the hackers .. it make for good press and some feel good articles but besides costing them millions it rarely changes their behavior! Considering we are still talking about them... Its plainly obvious they have a foothold so deep its gonna take more than a denial of service to remove the posture from their lean!! Denial of service may cost them millions but its like pick pocketing bill gates!  Not exactly gonna hurt him so to speak.. Makes for great headlines tho..



The article you posted starts out with one hell of a statement!! Its so on point i couldn't have said it better!!!

quote:  --->> "Visa, MasterCard, and Paypal control the valve to any money flow on the planet"

Get behind tor and then ---->   pay with bitcoin!

Or, less to my preference but available, pay for VPN with paypal...

Yeah... i just hate to give em business of any kind.. I last used paypal about 6 months ago on a car forum for a car part purchase from a forum member because he wouldnt take anything else and it was a rare piece so to speak but..

 It just pains me to give them any money! If i had it my way i would never eva eva eva eva use paypal ever again! They are a **** company ran by **** people! The have a bfl like odor that makes you cringe at the thought of supporting their business!